kanberg vs malkmus: who's won the latest round?

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what does everyone think of the new preston school of industry album? i'm a little disapointed just as i was with the last malkmus record.

Flotsam of the Fishfolk (Flotsam of the Fishfolk), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Malkmus always; you should know this by now.

dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Does it matter? Everything the Silver Jews do is light years ahead of anything any of them have ever done.

Famous Athlete, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

both artists are dullsville now. the "latest round" is sort of like the 3rd place play off at the world cup. as in, it's not really important who's better, they've both ultimately failed to have an interesting career outside of pavement. although i think "pig lib" gets love from ilm.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

although i listened to "date with ikea" today, and it still sounded great. so i have good things to say about kannberg. just not enough good things to merit me liking a whole album-full of his songs.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

it seems strange that outside pavement they should both be so much less potent, given that they were virtually two bands whilst pavement were together with scott living in california and steve in new york and no co-writing. perhaps its an age thing.

Flotsam of the Fishfolk (Flotsam of the Fishfolk), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

i lurv Pig Lib so I'll go Malk all the way (have only heard one song off Preston though)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Saw kanberg perform a few songs from Monsoon at a local record store last week. I was a little underwhelmed, but then solo in-stores are often awkward at best. I like the songs I have heard on the radio, but have not bought the new record.

Incidentally, the set also included this litle awkward bit of stage chatter (all paraphrased, of course):

[Holding up Echo and the Bunnymen box set]
"Everyone should buy this. I wrote the liner notes. Of course, I didn't get paid for them.

Just like I didn't get paid for the new Pavement book that's coming out.

Just kidding, yes I did."

[takes sip from his beer; awkward silence in crowd]

"No, I really didn't."

[more uncomfortable silence]

"I didn't have anything to do with that book and none of you should buy it when it comes out."

[new heights of uncomfortable silence are experienced in the store. a couple of nervous giggles are heard.]

"Ok, this next song is called...."

Scott, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

it seems strange that outside pavement they should both be so much less potent, given that they were virtually two bands whilst pavement were together with scott living in california and steve in new york and no co-writing.

I think it has more to do with Pavement as a unit than it does with the personalities of Stairs and Malkmus. They're certainly working with more proficient musicians these days, and they've go no boundries to work within...and it ends up making them boring as fuck. Pavement had a certain dynamic (albeit a sloppy one), but each singer/writer was forced to work within a well-defined setting.

Solo, each guys weaknesses really take center stage.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Preston School Of Industry are the dullest live band I've ever seen.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i suppose their lifestyles have changed. I spoke to s.m. just after he released pig lib and he seemed to be saying that he had finally made the record that he had always wanted to, and maybe that's part of the problem; that there's so much less urgency and pressure. he doesnt need to put out a record to pay the bills and no one at domino is going to tell him how to do it. its the curse of the "senile genius".

Flotsam of the Fishfolk (Flotsam of the Fishfolk), Thursday, 26 February 2004 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i love "all this sounds gas" but yeah i thought the live show was uninspiring.

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 26 February 2004 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i must agree with Mr. Fever. The parts are less than the whole.

I'm ready for my beating now, Gygax!

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 26 February 2004 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll perteckt ya mr. cole! Gygax's devotion to Malkmus' solo work is singularly inexplicable. I don't really care what either of them are up to at this point. Even moreso after watching the Slow Century DVD where everyone in the band comes off like a lazy asshole.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 February 2004 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I only managed a couple of listens to Pig Lib, it's fairly awful. I was pleasently surprised by Monsoon, though I doubt if I'll be listening to it 6 months from now.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I appreciate Malkmus' style of songwriting/arranging, plus he is one of the more interesting guitarists playing music today. i was pretty down on him during pavement's last 2 records, i find his solo work much more listenable than those.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)


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