Ultra Vivid Scene (and anything else Kurt Ralske's done) -- C/D?

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Said while listening to the fantastically brilliant "The Mercy Seat" for the first time in a long while.

"...I promise not to flinch."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

i love the 12 inch with that one song with kim deal on it. and i love the video. you know the one.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"Staring at the Sun" and the record covers were great - especially the Mercy Seat 12".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

"Blood and Thunder" = classic, with its long wind-out. Though I thought it was a new Church track on first hearing.

Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

This site should have some of the cover scans but it's not loading up at present.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Joy: 1967-1990 is a definite classic. i never quite understood the appeal of Rev, although that one certainly has its moments too.

tod (tod), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

This site should have some of the cover scans but it's not loading up at present.

there's a mirror site here.

tod (tod), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah thanks! Direct UVS section right here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

But this is also an opportunity to clear up all that production work and IDM stuff he does now -- as ISAN, I think?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

haven't heard anything besides those to UVS albums, myself. i should try and catch up.

tod (tod), Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

well, i did hear that Swell album he produced, but that's years ago...

tod (tod), Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

C: all the cathars stuff but especially "Early Bells and Voices," all the video stuff of course the 242.pilots DVD, auvi, generally being top-rate guy

ps kurt's website

caspar (caspar), Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

classic. "the mercy seat" is perfect.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Joy 67-90. I never really got into his other stuff as much. A friend of mine used to labouriously refer to him as "Trent Reznor's non-evil twin".

What's happend to ol' Kurt Ralske anyway?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

(look two posts above Alex in NYC)

caspar (caspar), Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic, yeah...I love all the UVS records, really, to greater or lesser degree, but the thing of his I really loved was a single recorded as Crash, specifically the b-side, "Don't Look Now." D'you recall that, Ned, or am I the only one...?

mspecktor, Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Kurt Ralske is not ISAN. ISAN are robin saville and antony ryan who live in the UK.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Thank you, I had confusion in my brain.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"special one" and "staring at the sun" are great, can't say i've been that impressed with the rest of the catalogue though. his production work on the ropers' first album is wonderful.

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 26 February 2004 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh heh, I could tell tales, but it would be so dull...

The River Kate (kate), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

for who?

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned knows the whole sordid story already. That Mr. Ralske, he's a lovely pervert. ;-)

(A pervert of sound that is! Honest! I will say nothing of those kinky Victorian porn books he kept beneath the mixing desk!)

The River Kate (kate), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

No love for the tinny noisy self titled album?? :(

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i have it but i don't think i've ever listened to it!

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

me! i love love love that album with the big toothbrush on the cover.
this is mainly due to memories of teenage fumblings as a certain
person from my past was a big fan of that album and would play it
when we were, erm well, you know. i don't think i picked up on all
the s&m imagery in the lyrics at the time though!

zappi (joni), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned knows the whole sordid story already. That Mr. Ralske, he's a lovely pervert. ;-)

See, I was hoping you would speak up.

me! i love love love that album with the big toothbrush on the cover.

I was listening to the whole album myself, which prompted the thread. Songs like "The Whore of God" and "Crash" and all that are fine things.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud - if only because the bass player he had playing for him wore a vest with no shirt.

hstencil, Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, put in my vote for the noisy first album, that's the one that convinced me. It's such a dirty album, oh, I love it, dirty in sound, dirty in intention, uuuhhhh... teenage experiences with that dirty voice in my head, mmmmm. I love that album so much. Whore of God, och, I had forgotten. The early stuff is the best, blah blah blah, "Hit By A Truck (Not In Love)" was my .sig for ages and ages.

And then he ended up producing a band I was in back in NYC - and our main guy actually TOLD HIM, so of course, he mercilessly played on it, whispering in my headphones to freak me out when I was trying to sing. No, he's a really really lovely guy. Truly nice man.

The River Kate (kate), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing about his voice is that it rode the whole T. Rex whisperperv approach very well. Very VERY well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't actually like it when he tried to full-on sing, it just sounded wrong. I loved the sound of him whisper-singing.

The River Kate (kate), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

loafers with nylon socks too, ugh.

hstencil, Friday, 27 February 2004 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic, yeah...I love all the UVS records, really, to greater or lesser degree, but the thing of his I really loved was a single recorded as Crash, specifically the b-side, "Don't Look Now." D'you recall that, Ned, or am I the only one...?

Ultra Vivid Scene covered it as a b-side, and it's on the Moth Wranglers' (Magnetic Fields related) album as well. Great song.

dlp9001, Friday, 27 February 2004 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hail Mary" still tugs at my teenage heartstrings. "Blood and Thunder" was one of the best rock singles of the 1990s and to this day, fuckin' nobody's heard it.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 27 February 2004 03:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd avoid those Cathars records, tho.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 27 February 2004 03:33 (twenty-two years ago)

So what do they sound like, then?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 February 2004 03:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Meanwhile, a quick check of the random CD singles I have -- "Don't Look Now (Now!)" appears to be the name of the song, but who did it originally again? -- shows that the cover of "Winter Song" by John Cale back in 1992 features Rasputina on cello before anyone knew who they were.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 February 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

all about "Bloodline" and "Thief's Love Song" for me

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 27 February 2004 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

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Don't Look Now (Now!) was by Crash. My favourite KR is probably the other Crash single 'Bright Colored Lights'. The album 'I Feel Fine' (1986) is very good. Less good, but still well worth a few listens, is KR's band before that, Nothing But Happiness, album called 'Detour'.

Canada Briggs (Canada Briggs), Friday, 27 February 2004 11:24 (twenty-two years ago)

UVS = classic, can't live w/o all three albums - the man was a great songwriter & "rev" was a bit like a lost television album...
CRASH = kurt ralske + mark dumais - dumais wrote most of the songs from recollection, and then formed tangerine (remember that "sunburst" single on creation? that was fantastic but the album is just, eurgh). i'm still looking for these crash records, folks! (please help)
dumais died before "rev" came out hence ralske's cover of "don't look now" in tribute.
second the vote for ralske's "blood & thunder" as one of the classic rock songs of the 90s. that first album does the unsettled loner junkie vibe perfectly.

jwd, Friday, 27 February 2004 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Hold on? Tangerine was Ralske? It didn't look like him in the video, not at all. I love that song too.

chris (chris), Friday, 27 February 2004 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

no, Tangerine was Dumais. Great song though, and hilarious video.

jwd, Friday, 27 February 2004 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

he was painting himself wasn't he? I still don't have a copy of that single despite me loving it back when I saw it on Snub.

chris (chris), Friday, 27 February 2004 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Margaret from Laika played in an early UVs setup, as did Moby. Kurt was going out with M's best friend Julie at the time. A year or so later, after the couple had split, this gorgeous Bjork-like Irish co-worker of mine, Gillian, told me about her new boyfriend...

suzy (suzy), Friday, 27 February 2004 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

1st 2 albums kool, after lost intrest. still listen to 1st 2 though.

Russell Dixon (Skinny), Friday, 27 February 2004 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

kurt also plays flugelhorn on one of the best records ever, Richard Davies' "Telegraph"
Disagree on avoiding Cathars stuff. Certainly one of the prettier ideas to come out of that 99-00 'microsound' mess.

caspar (caspar), Friday, 27 February 2004 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder which one of those girlfriends was the one that nicked our singer's girlfriend...

(Wait, I didn't say that. yes I did.)

The River Kate (kate), Friday, 27 February 2004 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

kurt also plays flugelhorn on one of the best records ever, Richard Davies' "Telegraph"

i had forgotten about that. his name was also mentioned on The Angels Of Light's New Mother, but i didn't pay enough attention to tell...

tod (tod), Friday, 27 February 2004 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate, was she:

a) rich kid from Michigan who says 'dude!' like Geeta
b) gothBjork Irish girl with naturally black hair?

suzy (suzy), Friday, 27 February 2004 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Hehe, this is too funny.
Mr. Kurt Ralske here. A friend alerted me to this thread. There seem to be some ghosts from everyone's past lurking 'round here.

Interesting to read all your comments. FYI I gave up making music entirely a few years ago + now focus on making video art, which I've had some nice success with. I've completely forgotten about UVS -- it seems like some weird half-remembered dream.

My own take on the UVS records is...well they're for me personally embarrassing, because I don't really think "pop stardom" was anything I was ever suited for + probably should never have pursued. So I think of these records the way someone might think of their career as a former stripper, or something like that: a skelton in the closet. I can't bear to listen to the first album + don't even own a copy of the second. I do think the third has some interesting music on it, and it gets played once every year or two.

Looking for happy endings? Yes, why not. For what it's worth, I am much much happier now than when I made those records. Someone above mentions a my involvement with a Bjork-like co-worker...yes well we were married two years ago + are expecting our first child in June.

So, requisite warm fuzziness all 'round, and if you've ever enjoyed the music, wishing you continued enjoyment.

Kurt Ralske, Friday, 27 February 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

well, that shut everyone up didn't it?

chris (chris), Friday, 27 February 2004 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

My word - ilm CAN be worth reading!

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 27 February 2004 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey Kurt! Glad to know you're still with G - she was the nicest co-worker and at the time she met you 'small world' pretty much covered it!

Still see Margaret at shows here in London but haven't seen JH for a long time, although M. and Mr. Hall keep me updated whenever I see them.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 27 February 2004 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Gosh, well, thanks for posting! :-) And though I do enjoy the records still, I am glad to hear you're in a happier place and enjoying work and life more. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 February 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

_Rev_ remains to this day one of the 500 best albums ever recorded.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 February 2004 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i remembered this- Indie songs from your teenage years that break your heart since i used "mirror to mirror" for a mix i finished a couple days ago.

michael bott, Friday, 27 February 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

er, this actually "Rev" by ultra vivid scene

michael bott, Friday, 27 February 2004 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't knock Cathars "" - some gorgeous Loveless-ness in there.

Like many here, I have spent a great deal of time listening to the 12" version of Mercy Seat. That long intro is one swoony ride!

paul c (paul c), Friday, 27 February 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

amorpheus

That what should be in between those quotations marks, but because the title of this cathar album has those angle brackets, ILM thinks it's a html tag. sorry

paul c (paul c), Friday, 27 February 2004 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Kurt, don't be embarrassed - if I didn't have teachers like you I'd have never learned how to mope properly.

This should evolve into a UVS anecdote thread. Mine:

I would assume a majority of people my age (near-thirties) became aware of UVS via 120 Minutes. I didn't have a VCR in my room, so I'd program the one in the living room to record it, watch it in my room, note what songs I liked, and record them to audio cassette before school the next morning. The grainy "Mercy Seat" video, if I recall correctly, was followed - seamlessly - by the B52's "Channel Z" (which was the advance single for Cosmic Thing - that has to be one of the worst A&R decisions on record). I was...14 or 15, and pretty freaked out by Kurt's bangs and the distorted videotape, all very intense for someone burning out a copy of Eponymous while mowing lawns. UVS was part of a handful of late-80s gateway acts that pointed me down a better path, as important and memorable to my mind as The Cure or New Order. And for the record, I don't hear the Mary Chain thing at all! Haw.

I still smell gasoline, grass and burning leaves whenever I hear "Mercy Seat", and fear the impending image of Fred Schneider running across a field in slow motion, like a total jackass. A kiss and a slap.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 27 February 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

wasn't josephine wiggs (perfect disaster, breeders) the bass player for uvs live for a while?

jwd, Saturday, 28 February 2004 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 28 February 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

..as well as The Perfect Disaster.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 28 February 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Hm, this thread could be reason enough to check-recheck some ol' uvs cd's that must be somewhere on the shelves in the other room...

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 28 February 2004 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)

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JWD, I saw the Crash album in Record and Tape in Notting Hill today. It's 12 quid. If you don't live in London, this is a bit useless.

Canada Briggs (Canada Briggs), Saturday, 28 February 2004 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The only point of contention I have with anything UVS related is that "Special One" sounded waaaaaay too much like "September Gurls". But that's not really a point of contention nor really a complaint at all -- more like just a sad attempt to be the first to point out that song comparison in this thread and flex music trivia muscle and be annoying nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 29 February 2004 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Ya bastard.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 February 2004 06:50 (twenty-two years ago)

nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 29 February 2004 06:54 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks for the tip-off re: crash, being in adelaide australia it's just a LITTLE far to travel to pick up a record, but the eagle eye is appreciated. any london folk feeling generous?

jwd, Sunday, 29 February 2004 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I still enjoy those records espec 'Mercy Seat', 'She screamed'- delicious giddy delerium - and 'Special One', small, perfectly formed pop gems all.

Nice of you to pop in Mr Ralske.

stevo (stevo), Sunday, 29 February 2004 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone thinking of getting the Crash album should probably be aware that it doesn't sound much like UVS...very different vocals and side 1 seems to have been written before anyone had heard the J&MC. Side 2 starts to get a little closer, and the first song (I Feel Fine) is pretty amazing.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 February 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
i've been trawling through my 7"s recently and in the last two days have found:

7" flexi version of three stars that was in The Catalogue. says it's an exclusive mix but mine's still attached to the mag so i guess i've never heard it. and the freebie 4ad 7" that they gave away at records stores if you asked nicely. i got mine from Badlands in cheltenham about 2 hours after failing my driving test for the second time.

there's also a thing called amor.0+01, an ambient thing released under his own name - three long tracks and a video that i could never get my pc to play... (1999 sub rosa records)

not heard any cathars though...

andy

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Crash - Great album. Mark Dumais vocals are superb. I love "Bright Colored Lights" reminds me of a dead friend (in a really nice way).

UVS - I'm absolutely amazed Kurt's embaraassed by the whole thing. I play UVS to selective friends who all love it and long to hear more. The tone of Kurt's voice, the oblique lyrics, the song structures and spotless arrangements leave me breathless. The album art and presentation reinforced a first class act.

Matt X, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)

An old (2002) unpublished Q & A with Kurk Ralske is here: quiteclicky.free.fr

dh, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

A UVS website :

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/5901/index.html

houldsworth street, Friday, 26 March 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...

kinda loving this Crash compilation. cost a small fortune but may even be worth it. Dumais was a very talented songwriter and a likably pitch-challenged singer. sad that he's no longer with us.

i hadn't made the Tangerine connection before! i do recall that album being v. tough going. may rate a revisit and reappraisal in benevolent afterglow of rekindled Crash love.

was Justine a covert Creation imprint?

Mr. Hal Jam, Thursday, 24 May 2007 04:41 (eighteen years ago)

Classic. Personally I go way back with Kurt as I have mentioned elsewhere already. He was a weird dude but still a genius.

I hear from some mutual friends that Kurt is now into some fine art shit now and I can't speak to that but UVS is some nice ass shit. Takes me right back to that day when I was the only one in NYC sportin one a their t-shirts!

It's funny but his record was like the #1 record of 1992 in CMJ and we are talking about it like it's a relic.

Fucking classic.

Saxby D. Elder, Thursday, 24 May 2007 05:30 (eighteen years ago)

Classic!

God, I absolutely love The Mercy Seat. I remember seeing the video for it on some BBC2 programme when it came out (I think it was on SnubTV maybe). I've got the 12" and the album with the toothbrush on the cover in my attic, as soon as I move into a bigger place I'm going to buy a turntable JUST to play that 12".

nate woolls, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:39 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

"There's only one way to bring a new day..."

I still think Kurt's appearance earlier in this thread is the best out-of-nowhere cameo on ILX ever.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 July 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

Only recently realized that he produced two of my favorite tracks on Lida Husik's "Joyride" album, and come to think of it they do sort of sound like UVS.

dlp9001, Monday, 9 July 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, I got in some trouble for some of the things said on this thread.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

! One wonders...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 July 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

Only recently realized that he produced two of my favorite tracks on Lida Husik's "Joyride" album, and come to think of it they do sort of sound like UVS.

Have this album here somewhere, never realized either or listened to that one much, must investigate! (thx)

Saxby D. Elder, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

i just got all th crash eps and lps and flexis..what now?

danbunny, Thursday, 31 July 2008 23:56 (seventeen years ago)

listen to them?

StanM, Friday, 1 August 2008 00:25 (seventeen years ago)

wow, how funny that he posted here

dell, Friday, 1 August 2008 00:27 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Pleasant surprise: I just discovered the album "I Had Fun Tonight (Songs by Mark Dumais and Crash)" by Bobine which came out last year. Covers of a bunch of Crash stuff etc.

It misses Ralske's guitar, and does better on the jangly stuff than the rocky stuff, but it's pretty good. Vocals are steadier than Dumais, who had an iffy relationship with pitch. I'd still like to see someone else a little rockier (like, um, Kurt Ralske...not going to happen I know) re-record all the Crash stuff. This will do for now.

dlp9001, Saturday, 1 August 2009 19:14 (sixteen years ago)

hey wow thanks for the tip about Joyride, I am a big Lida Husik fan but I don't have that one.

sleeve, Saturday, 1 August 2009 19:19 (sixteen years ago)

Also just noticed that there's a few Crash videos (rehearsals, etc.) up on youtube. Wow, never thought I'd see that.

dlp9001, Saturday, 1 August 2009 19:24 (sixteen years ago)

"You can hurt me if you please
you know I'd do the same for you ..."

Funny, I just pulled the s/t cd out earlier in the week and it still sounds every bit as creepy and cool (and classic) as it ever did. I love the imagery - and it makes me think of something I read a long time ago in a fanzine that was called Sproggs, or Sprog that had a cover story interview with Kurt? (or I could be remembering the wrong things altogether) but in it he says something about the first album was a "great soundtrack for sharpening razor blades" while the second one "was made for counting out pills"

i should go digging in my old magazine stash to find the actual quote, but it was pretty great. and incredibly spot on.

rentboy, Saturday, 1 August 2009 22:09 (sixteen years ago)

also, this may sound like a question of the obvious, but The Mercy Seat is about heroin, right?

rentboy, Saturday, 1 August 2009 22:11 (sixteen years ago)

i mean i know what a real mercy seat is, but the references to blood flowing, warmth, etc is all like reading someone's talking about getting a fix

rentboy, Saturday, 1 August 2009 22:15 (sixteen years ago)

Ah, SNUB TV ...

djh, Sunday, 2 August 2009 06:25 (sixteen years ago)

four years pass...

Return of the Ralske. Well, sort of. He directed this new Kim Deal video:

http://vimeo.com/72002146

Position Position, Friday, 16 August 2013 02:39 (twelve years ago)

fairly safe to say i didn't used to 'get' UVS but i really dig the debut now

buttlock expressway (electricsound), Friday, 16 August 2013 02:52 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

And a new interview!

http://thequietus.com/articles/13367-ultra-vivid-scene-kurt-ralske-interview

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 October 2013 16:51 (twelve years ago)

Great stuff there from Jon in doing the interview -- delves in deep to his many different projects and roots early on, this is probably the best accounting I've seen of the whole time!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 October 2013 17:06 (twelve years ago)


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