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Pitchfork says they're the lamest band of all time next to Joan of Arc, my friend says they're Pinkerton-era Weezer with female vocals. I'm interested to hear what you all think.

― Todd Burns, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the girl doesn't sing much does she? she sings in busytoby which is only slightly less dreadful than wolfie. forming your worldview with comparisons between your pals opinions and pitchfork's seems questionable. still, wolfie are superior to their paler imitation mates of state and yet that isn't much to celebrate.

― keith, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wolfie's okay. I only have an ep by them, but it's nice. There is precious little to excite your shorts about in the world of indiepop. It shouldn't be surprising when Pitchfork slams almost all indiepop releases. Pitchfork seems to judge on a scale of historical landmarks of the monstrous rock variety, rather than appreciating sideline bands that produce influential decent music, the way Rolliing Stone used to. Remember when Rolling Stone's critics would back unreservedly, the weirdest avant rock, indie rock, thrash metal even? General attitudes have changed, I think, with modern rock critics. Everything's so weird and innovative now, including main stream rock, that they seem to judge moreso on mass appeal than by the magic an album can create in it's own little world... not compared to what other albums have to offer. Wolfie's great if you like that sort of stuff, just like the Ramones or whatever else. It's poprock of the not-too-terribly talented variety, but still good.

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And that was nothing against Pitchfork, by the way. I did read the Wolfie review and was amazed and embarassed for the guy who wrote it. How he can hate Wolfie quite that much is almost comical. Seems rather transparent, like there's another agenda here. But, good poprock, power pop, whatever, hasn't been getting too much critical acclaim for some time now. It's either got to be accessibly off-the-wall & over-the-top, amazingly produced or blazingly sonic and rocking for critics to approve... unless you're Wilco, of course. They can do no wrong! Wilco's new album sounds great, by the way, I got an advance preview the other day!

― Nude Spock, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Spock -- the EP was the Official Downfall of Wolfie, actually, so you probably shouldn't judge them on that wretched thing.

Awful Mess Mystery, on the other hand, is ridiculously good, as is most of Where's Wolfie. The EP, for some reason, features weirdly glossy production and distorted guitars; the two records prior to that sport a much more realistic fidelity and tube-y sounding guitars, and the result is sort of in the same vein as the first Violent Femmes record, or something -- the sound of kids in a garage bashing through amazing pop songs. Honestly, Awful Mess Mystery is one of the best things I've heard in years, as was their live show before the big "Hey, let's ditch everything that made us interesting and crank the distortion" moment.

― Nitsuh, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But, good poprock, power pop, whatever, hasn't been getting too much critical acclaim for some time now.

That's because you can only hear so many Shoes records. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think they are pretty good. Sort of rocky indie pop. Hmmm...don't really get the Pinkerton comparison. Thet aren't as derivative as other indie pop bands.

― james, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the snotty kids i hang out with at the college station refer to them as what is absolutely wrong with our station. me, i think it's tullycraft.

― your null fame, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, pretty Tullycrafty. See how that brings us back to Weezer, via "Pop Songs Your New Boyfriend's Too Stupid to Know About?"

― Nitsuh, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I love the Shoes!! Raspberries, too. Ice Cream Hands, anyone? What I've noticed lately, is a lot of good powerpop seems to be coming out of Canada. Poptopia on yahoogroups has some good advice.

― Nude Spock, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Shoes are pretty good, yes. The powerpop group of recent vintage I care about the most are the Posies, but beyond that I dunno. I guess I feel it's a field that's overplowed -- not that many others aren't, of course. But there's not as much that immediately interests or grabs me anymore when I do encounter it, though of course perhaps I'm missing something quite good out there. We shall see!

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

if you want power pop you should stop by the not lame website. cherry twister is a nice powerpop band, otherwise i am ignorant.

― keith, Saturday, 13 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Boring boring Boeing Boeing boing! Thought this was going to be a thread about Citizen Smith! Can we talk about that instead? Power to the people and all that! Eh? Eh?

Ach, I forgot - this is ILM. OK, fair enough, never heard (of) Pitchfork but doubtless their purposeful yet cunning bass-driven post- Tool symbiotic attack brings trip-metal to a previously unscaled aesthetic height.

That surely must be good enough to warrant a job with ET's new soulful, passionate and honest magazine.

― My Broadway Is Tooting Somewhat More Purposely Than, For Example, Toshinori Kond, Saturday, 13 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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nitsuh thanks a bunch for that pfork article. who would I be without this band. mockhouse has the best (hilarious) lyrics.

just one thing before you go
could you please water the flowers
just one thing before you leave
could you pick the winning numbers

― marc iv, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 12:45 (fourteen years ago)

never heard wolfie, but the like young (two members of wolfie iirc) were really fun to see live

catchy post-weezer power pop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcUFe1jkIMI

― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

Pitchfork says they're the lamest band of all time next to Joan of Arc, my friend says they're Pinkerton-era Weezer with female vocals. I'm interested to hear what you all think.
― Todd Burns, Wednesday, October 10, 2001 7:00 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark

That was Pitchfork 2001, though. It would probably be chillwave enough for an 8.5 today.

FTR, I liked Wolfie. Awful Mess Mystery is better than any of today's latter day lo-fi synth-pop.

― jer.fairall, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 01:51 (fourteen years ago)

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