miles davis - the lost quintet - rfi

http://www.miles-trees.org/l5/

says (among other things):

The Lost Quintet refers the Miles Davis Band from 1969 that included Miles Davis (trumpet) with Dave Holland (bass), Wayne Shorter (Tenor and soprano Sax), Jack Dejohnette (Drums) and Chick Corea (keyboards). This astounding ensemble created transitional music during volatile cultural and political times

and also offered a CD tree of their material...

I believe this is the only official cd out of this band. It's pretty intense, and the recording is on the noisy side, but worth checking out. I should really listen to it again.

Yeah, these days, the Lost Quintet seems decidedly less lost...

So this is the "official" lost quintet, but what about the other lost quintet on Miles in Tokyo?

They didn't completely *mesh*, but the tension is totally invigorating

Was that the line-up with Sam Rivers on tenor? I guess tension was pretty inevitable in that set-up but as you say it makes for an intriguing and on-the-brink-of-explosive listen.

FWIW, I also have a European radio performance of the Corea lost quintet called Paraphernalia that was released by the (defunct) Jazz Music Yesterday label -- decent if not as cohesive as the Fillmore recording.

this isn't the lost quintet, but since this is the electric miles thread of the day, here's a link: http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/miles-davis-live-at-troubadour-club-los-angeles-january-17-19-1975-a-66661.html
haven't listened yet, but it makes me literally sick to stomach with envy that the Agharta/Pangaea band was playing a relatively tiny club in LA. Born too late ... again.

Was that the line-up with Sam Rivers on tenor?

yes

This is the peak of the Lost Quintet imo, at least of what I've heard.

https://jazzonthetube.com/video/live-in-antibes-france-july-25-1969/

The way Milestones gradually disintegrates into free time on Milestones (from partway through Wayne's solo into Chick's solo)...

The Lost Quintet refers the Miles Davis Band from 1969 that included Miles Davis (trumpet) with Dave Holland (bass), Wayne Shorter (Tenor and soprano Sax), Jack Dejohnette (Drums) and Chick Corea (keyboards). This astounding ensemble created transitional music during volatile cultural and political times

I was very lucky to see two of them (sadly the only two still with us) playing in a trio with Jason Moran a little over a year ago - may have been the best jazz performance I've ever seen in my life. It was a one-off for DeJohnette's 80th birthday, so that may have explained the concentrated intensity, but I hope they recorded it, would be wonderful to release.

Oh, awesome, thanks for that.
Blogged by me:

from another Rolling Jazz 2021 discussion, re my frustration w Hancock-Shorter in Miles Quintet:

I played one of those Legal-in-Italy CDs (from before Media Lord Berlusconi became PM), Double Image(Moon, 1989), live in Paris, 1969, and here Shorter's effective enough, switching back and forth from tenor to soprano, rattling along between Miles and Chick Corea, with Dave Holland and Tony Williams prividing subway momentum--but then on Paris, France(Moon, 1990), live, 10-01-64, the full Second Quintet, Shorter and Hancock are back to being the blurry center I remember from xpost Water Babies and others, although in this case it may be in part the recording quality (which the other players push through).

Also worth looking for, and more my thing:

...another formerly Legal-In-Italy set, Two Miles Live (Discarios, 19??), live in Vienna 11-05-71---boot sites usually say: Wiener Konzerthaus, Vienna (Austria)

Österreischer Rundfunk radio broadcast (B+)

Miles Davis (tpt); Gary Bartz (ss, as); Keith Jarrett (el-p, org); Michael Henderson (el-b); Ndugu Leon Chancler (d); Charles Don Alias (cga, perc); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc)
Yeah, The Lost Septet, never as a full line-up, in the studio at the same time, apparently. Here. Miles draws dry ice and other smoke from the fractive frictions of wah-wah, Echoplex, pitch controls, whatevs, revealing passing patterns, indented on the inner surfaces of his glass headpiece, also for instance KJ's organ sustains metallic sheets which his electric piano hand taps more patterns into, while Gary B's alto and soprano go for microtones from the slaugherhaus, Henderson's bass is bruise as much as blues, drums are all around the town, in a supportive way---Disc One has a *bit* more variety, segmentation; Disc 2 grabs me by the back of neck right off and don't let go.)

thanks for posting that, man alive

I was excited to find it because it used to be on YT but has been taken down.

live in Paris, 1969, and here Shorter's effective enough, switching back and forth from tenor to soprano, rattling along between Miles and Chick Corea, with Dave Holland and Tony Williams prividing subway momentum-

I don't think I realized there were concerts with both Holland and Williams - DeJohnette replaced him in the middle of that year I guess?

if y'all haven't seen jeremy irwin's "the heat warps" blog, which starts at the beginning of 1969 and goes through to '75, you should do

https://theheatwarps.com/

They were both on Filles, must have been around then?

Dave Holland was alternating between playing acoustic and electric bass at the same show as late as 1970...but did Miles have any of his keyboardists (probably Corea) play both acoustic and electric piano over the course of the same concert? Or did the electric piano decisively and permanently replace the acoustic onstage?

A bit of searching around indicates that Chick Corea did play both at the same show in Stockholm in November 1969, although he had mostly switched to the electric by that point.

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There's a 1969 concert on the Bootleg Series Vol. 2 where the electric piano shits the bed mid-set, so Corea switches to acoustic piano for "Paraphernalia," "Nefertiti," and "Masqualero."