Let's Meltdown Morrissey

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I heard this morning that Morrissey will be curating this years meltdown, who's he going to get to play?

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

James, Bradford, Echobelly - C*lum will be in 7th heaven!

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm just seeing if I can confirm it. Also problematic as Nomi and Jobriath are dead.

Real answer: Franz Ferdinand.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

It was announced on Radio London this morning Suzy, they had just heard (or rather Amy had and was gushing wildly)

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Easterhouse! Marion! Lupus! The man's taste knows some bounds...

― Mog, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

there's going to have to be a hell of a lot of grave robbing going on too....

Jonnie Thunders, Diana Dors

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Lupus? I think you need Ludus.

Chris, is that Amy as in Lamé?

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I would guess:

Patti Smith, Pony Club, Mikel Erentxun, James Maker, Rickie Lee Jones.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I did indeed mean Ludus. My early-morning clear-headedness is about as spot-on as Moz's usual choice of support bands... FF notwithstanding...

― Mog, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

What with it being Meltdown I very much doubt it will be wall-to-wall lumpenindie. Did none of you listen to his 'Under the Influence' comp?!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I think about it - I bet Sparks play.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

yes it was Ms Lame (can't do the accent, sorry Amy)

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris: alt+e, then e gives the correct accent. \m/ Amy \m/

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.nme.com/news/107695.htm

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

these things are always rubbish anyway

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

You're better than this, Gareth.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Latest: Michael Bracewell will read from More Than This, a new novella about aesthetes in English suburbia (due from Bloomsbury in September).

(see link: http://www.lindersuburb.net)

― the blissfox, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that link right, PF? It doesn't work for me.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I think about it - I bet Sparks play.

Unquestionably. The Sparks list is already guessing that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Gallon Drunk! Sack! The Polecats!

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

why oh why is he being allowed.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Because he'll announce, from the stage, his conversion to free jazz, Derek Bailey will lead an ensemble of fifty performers in a 24-hour performance, and you will be content.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

because Derak Bailey's choices would draw two men and a dog?

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

But one of those men would be Julio!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

precisely

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

this country has gone to the dogs already. this confirms it.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

No, that'll happen when Dido gets to curate Meltdown next year!!!!!!

― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Julio's outrage.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

it's his schtick

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

will any reggae be allowed? or is it too 'vile'?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to be annoyed by that rhythm too, but I put my last record out on a Trojan imprint

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

well, it's not to his taste, so probably not Julio, no.

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

but if things aren't to yr taste, does it mean its vile?

btw I'm not outraged at all but since the meltdown is a festival (isn't it 3 nights, I can't remember right now) surely we can choose someone who could allow for some variety.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

he thinks it's vile though. Just like I think all things Jazz are vile. Does this make me some sort of pariah?

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Sieg Heil

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont agree with the concept of meltdown anyway. it shouldnt be allowed to happen. the broadsheetization of music should be opposed, and the venues used should not be allowed to play music.

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Morrissey has changed his mind about reggae. He was raving about Gregory Isaacs in a recent interview. And he has revived the Attack label for his new record.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont like the idea of the 'curator' either.

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Jerry I was hoping someone'd bring that up, maybe I should've done so more clearly, Gareth curators are fuckin hot

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I ain't changing my mind about JAzz though.

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Good, I'm sick of this racial crap anyway

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

haha chris how can music be vile?!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm kind of tempted to suggest things, tho, not that I remember what you like otherwise

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

not so much the words (bcz that's diff) but certain sounds.

x-post

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate all that bleating sax action. and then there's the skronking...

Is vile the wrong word to be using according to Webster's dictionary?

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok "Kind of Blue" then

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

nope, I've not managed to sit through a single jazz album yet, even what are supposed to be the greats. Blame my trad loving uncle who is an @rsehole and bombarded us all with jazz of all kinds at parties throughout my childhood.

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh well, I imagine you'll lead a perfectly great life w/out some jazz albums using up yr time anyway

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont like the idea of the 'curator' either.

only B&S should be allowed curate festivals.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

really though, what's wrong with someone picking the bands/acts at a festival? It's only the same as someone making a mixtape - except it's live. And if you don't like it you don't go?

this whole thread is making my head hurt

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I blame Viduka.

― the bellefox, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

it is more mojo magazine than mixtape though?

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

This still isn't any better, Gareth.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't mind the idea of curating, I just don't like the word (in this context).

I thought this was going to be a Photoshop thread (really, for a change)

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

What the fuck is this place?

― you know who, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

THIS PLACE SUCKS. BACK TO WWW.MORRISSEY-SOLO.COM!!!!!!

― Belligerent Ghoul, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

And speaking of which...

TO: HOW DID YOU COME TO BE CURATING THIS YEAR'S MELTDOWN?
MORRISSEY: I was very nicely asked. I was second choice to a smallish Japanese woman whose name I can't mention, but she has atrocious taste in eye furniture. Can you guess who I mean? She had a Red Setter called John.

TO: WITH YOUR NEW ALBUM DUE IN MAY (AND A DATE IN MANCHESTER CONFIRMED) CAN WE TAKE IT YOU'LL BE PERFORMING YOURSELF?
MORRISSEY: Only seals 'perform'. So, yes, I'm ready to oik.

TO: AFTER HEARING YOUR 'UNDER THE INFLUENCE' COMPILATION, WE'RE EXPECTING YOUR LINE-UP TO INCLUDE ROCKABILLY, CAJUN, SKA, OPERATIC DISCO AND GLAM CLASSICS - ARE WE ON THE RIGHT LINES?
MORRISSEY: Not remotely. The line-up consists of drag, skiffle, and political debate.

TO: OVER THE YEARS MELTDOWN HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR ITS UNUSUAL MIX OF COMEDY, FILM, READINGS AND POETRY AS WELL AS MUSIC. CAN WE EXPECT THIS FROM YOUR STEWARDSHIP?
MORRISSEY: This year's Meltdown will be the best - very loud, very entertaining and very funny. Princess Anne is not invited.

TO: WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF TATU TURNING UP TO PLAY THEIR COVER OF 'HOW SOON IS NOW?'?
MORRISSEY: It's as likely as Amelia Earhart being discovered working at Boots in Croydon.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely Nancy Sinatra is a dead cert for this.

― mms (mms), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

That interview = same question asked five times?

btw, when Scott Walker did his, is it true he did not go to any of the nights? I mean, why did he bother?

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

No, he went at least one night -- the night Jarvis Cocker did his Touch of Glass project, which is one of the two nights I went, Jarvis concluded the set by thanking Walker and adding "he might want to leave before he hears what we do next," which was actually a mighty fine version of "On Your Own Again."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Boots in Croydon!

― the blissfox, Wednesday, 3 March 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

From NME.com:

This year's full Meltdown line-up is:

Morrissey (Royal Festival Hall, June 11)

Sparks (Royal Festival Hall, 12)

'We Are All In The Gutter. An Evening With Mr Wilde' Devised and directed by Neil Bartlett (Queen Elizabeth Hall, 13)

Loudon Wainwright III (Queen Elizabeth Hall, 15)

The Films Of Bob Gruen (Queen Elizabeth Hall, 16)

An Audience With Alan Bennett (Queen Elizabeth Hall, 17)

Ennio Marchetto (Purcell Room, 17)

The New York Dolls (Royal Festival Hall, 18)

Ennio Marchetto (Purcell Room, 18)

Jane Birkin / Ari Up (Royal Festival Hall, 19)

Ennio Marchetto (Purcell Room, 19)

Nancy Sinatra (Royal Festival Hall, 20)

Lypsinka! The Boxed Set (Queen Elizabeth Hall, 23-24)

Morrissey (Royal Festival Hall, 25-26)

Gorecki's Symphony No. 3 (Symphony Of Sorrowful Songs) featuring Yvonne Kenny (Royal Festival Hall, 27)

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Sparks are virtually the resident band on the South Bank these days

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Where are Slaughter and the Dogs? Ooooh Morrissey, you fickle bitch!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

It is all flamingly camp! Hooray!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

oh jesus wept, he's a wanker isn't he...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't it cabaret-tastic? All he needs is Gary Le Strange and he's sorted...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kate.darby/img1.jpg

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i would do much much better. the whole idea of meltdown and atp and these "curated" fezzies makes me mad. its all very congratulatory, smug and backslappy... as for mozza's choices, i hated him before, and now i really loathe him.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

What particularly fills you with bile, Dave?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)

And are there any jobs you couldn't do better than the present incumbent? :)

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

the whole list just appears to be trying so bloody hard, it's horribly camp, sparks, as someone else astutley pointed out, have been everywhere the past few months and gorecki is the the kind of thing you hear coming out of starbucks...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm off to start up another thread... meltdown: who would YOU choose... feel free to join me

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

this is total shite, Julio was right to be outraged and he will be even more so now. The man's tast hasnt developed one iota in 20 years, i could have got that list together from reading NME interviews circa "Hatful of Hollow", I mean "We Are All In The Gutter. An Evening With Mr Wilde" ffs! change the record! The Man's a cunt and if you think this is a good line up you're a cunt too.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

You were expecting him to include a Wiley set, perhaps?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Bowie's Meltdown was just about the worst ever, remember that: Coldplay, Suede, Fischerspooner. Yeah, nice call on Fischerspooner, Dave.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I really don't understand the spleen here - it seems related to the Petridiscourse. Which, in itself, is a grownup version of the standard indiekid complaint about the 'blandness of the mainstream'.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

no i wasn't expecting him to include wiley! it's just pretty tired

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

actually jerry, i dont think wiley is outside the morrisey workld as such, i mean, i know morrissey would never countenance it himself, but in only a slightly different world, an england of wiley, dillinja, st etienne, van der graaf generator, omni trio and joe meek.

i dont think this vision of england is structurally very different to the one morrissey posits himself, though i am sure he would see it as very different.

i have no problem with the existing line up as such

― gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(i forgot pickettywitch)

― gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i just wanna see the libertines. if i get to see them at meltdown, i will sleep a happy man.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Morrissey but of all the trendy-ass symphonies to pick he goes with Gorecki's 3rd - when he knows very well that it'd be more in character & more appropriate to do a Vaughan Williams or Elgar, I mean really what is this world coming to

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The New York Dolls (Royal Festival Hall, 18)

Er, and nobody had anything to say about this?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I think your's and Momus's lp that features 'Abortion Time' should be called 'Trendy-ass Symphonies', John. Or maybe 'Trendy Ass-Symphonies'?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the drummer from the libertines is playing with the dolls. theyre bound to be disapointing though....

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

the drummer from the libertines is playing with the dolls.

I was thinking more in the 'there's this guy called Johnny Thunders but see, he's dead -- also, since when did David Johansen change his mind?' sense.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

...Trendy Ass-Symphonies...

Dan Perry! Get the choir together! It's time!

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Cos' it's a trendy ass-symphony this life...
Trying to make ends meet, you're a slave to the edgy style mag then you die.

― El Diablo Curmudgeonbotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Alright, since nobody else is going to get excited about getting their Meltdown tickets today (unless I missed it), I'm going to put my head above the parapet and say that I'm the proud owner not only of two tix to see Moz on the 25th... but also An Audience With Alan Bennett! Huzzah!

― Mog, Friday, 30 April 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i've got a pair of stalls tickets to see morrissey on the 11th. given this it's tempting to ebay them, though:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58737&item=2241892388&rd=1

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 30 April 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

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