King or Hanneman - who's the better soloist?

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...since they're so gracious as to give credit to who plays what on almost every Slayer album.

and while we're on the subject - anyone seen the War at the Warfield DVD? Worth picking up?

I love DVDs now

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 4 March 2004 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i always liked hanneman. less flashy than king. but then, i always preferred richard brunelle to trey azagthoth.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 4 March 2004 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

well now you're talkin crazy

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 4 March 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

King. Hanneman writes the best riffs, though.

I have yet to see it, but apparently the Warfield dvd has a documentary about insane Slayer fans, and it's supposed to be so sad/funny (similar to HM Parking Lot?), it's said to be better than the concert.

abegrand, Thursday, 4 March 2004 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate documentaries with music industry vips and journalists using big words while their noses get longer and longer. Blablabla. Therefore, the one on this disc that only let the fans do the talking is a nice change. But yeah, some of them say the coolest things and others are downright fundamentalists that make you wanna pee.
As far as the live show goes, it's fair. Good concert, but not extraordinary. I like the fact that it's not spiced-up. No beautifull stageset or great light show, just Slayer performing. They've done better, but what you see is what you get. (What's the deal with T-shirts getting blurred on Slayer footage? It also happens on the video-material in the boxset.)

I can't choose between King or Hanneman. I loved Kings outfit more in the eighties (the spikes on his arms!), but Hanneman just looked cooler as a guy. Am I stupid when I announce I never heard much of a difference between their playing?

Roger in Mokum (Roger T), Thursday, 4 March 2004 08:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Can anyone actually tell 'em apart WITHOUT the lyric sheet?! I always find it funny how "Raining Blood" credits them with "noise" - sounds just like all their other solos, only double-tracked!

I'll take Hanneman.

Myonga Von Bontee, Thursday, 4 March 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Hanneman, because he's stealing all his best tricks from Greg Ginn.

The DVD is pretty good.

Does the DVD in the boxed set have Bostaph or Lombardo on drums? Because it's Bostaph on War At The Warfield, and I'd really like a DVD with Lombardo back there.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 4 March 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

They are equal. So I'll say Hanneman cause the tone he used on his solos on Divine Intervention and the Live Intrusion video was actually a good lead tone. Cut through really well.

Slayer riffs are the best. Slayer solos are the best for Slayer riffs.

Lombardo's on a few tunes on the DVD in the box set.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 4 March 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Bostaph was great. I'll miss him. Lombardo doesn't do the bad-ass double-bass thing in Stain Of Mind!! And I mean Killing Fields!! That is one of their best songs in my mind and Bostaph is HUGE in that one.

Oh yeah, the solos.... My favorite Slayer solo moments are end of each solo in "Altar Of Sacrifice" where they add the echo that rings out under ""blood turning black, change has begun..."

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 4 March 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking of good metal DVDs, the Napalm Death "Punishment In Capitals" DVD is some good shit. Its amazing how quiet and non-metal those guys act when they're not playing.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 4 March 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hanneman, because he's stealing all his best tricks from Greg Ginn."

I'd like you to expand a some on that comment (who ever wrote it..) Not that I don't believe that it does actually hold some truth.. I just never ran into that observation before.

And to everybody who cannot discern btwn the leads of the two guitarists: listen to the picking! Hanne always does a certain amount of muting making his tone less precise, whereas King does really clean picking (and so does Hammett btw..). In the whammy sections, Hanneman is the crazier.


Then, who's the better?
I like both. Despite being not as techincal as a lot of other metal lead guitarists, Slayer's solos stand out above most other simply because they're well thought out.

Xabre, Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, I thought they stood out because they were wonderfully dissonant 'not-knowing-what-you're-doing' noise shred!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Xabre otm. Also, this is a small detail, but have you ever noticed how Hanneman tends to start on the lower strings, while King sorta dives right into that 24th fret on the high E at the start of his solos? Just an observation...

Counting the days till Ozzfest!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...
Who wears the spikes best?

Gadjo, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

oh god, Kerry by a mile ... although I love them both dearly

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 16 August 2007 03:46 (eighteen years ago)

hanneman by a long way as far as i'm concerned. so much more tuneful and less about asinine whammy-bar tricks.

kerry 'dial-up modem' king just likes to make sounds.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 16 August 2007 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

Not a bad thing for a musician to want to make.

marmotwolof, Thursday, 16 August 2007 04:01 (eighteen years ago)

I like sounds.

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 16 August 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

i mean like sounds that don't sound so hot

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 16 August 2007 11:34 (eighteen years ago)

Well that's just wrong.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 16 August 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

maybe there's something i'm missing

don't worry, it doesn't make me love slayer any less.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 16 August 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

At least they do something different-hearing guys just do scales is mind-numbingly boring.

I may have posted this before, re: the "Ride the Lightining" song "Trapped Under Ice". The first solo is very un-Metallica like, it sounds like a Kerry King special. It sounds like nothing before or after on a Metallica record, but very much like Slayer. Homage?

Bill Magill, Thursday, 16 August 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

you mean the solo pretty much immediately after the intro? i see what you mean about the comparison. also unusual for metallica to put solos right at the front of their songs like that

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 16 August 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

I like sounds too!

Was it Hannemann or King who began using a wah-wah on Divine Intervention, the last Slayer LP I bought? And did he continue to do so? Whoever, I fully approve. No such thing as "too much wah-wah"

Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

unless your name is kirk hammett

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)


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