― eleki-san (eleki-san), Friday, 5 March 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 5 March 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)
"I'd like to buy a wig for my hair...FOR MY HEAD."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)
Ideally, we'd all know of aquaintances who had Zoogz Rift LPs but would be enable to recall where they were purchased or a single song other than the ones with scat titles or "A Blind Man's Penis."
Zoogz on Zoogz:
"...like all of my albums, was horribly distributed and received little or no promotion, so it's highly unlikely that you've ever even heard of us. The press constantly (favorably) compared my four dozen or so releases to..."
Evidence of the milk of human kindness or somewhat more optimism than expected.
― George Smith, Friday, 5 March 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)
You are a man of wisdom, sir.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)
Unfortunately, the story never delivered on the frightening promise of the cover. There was not even a mention of Nudist Priest -- a terrible omission given the howler lead pic.
― George Smith, Friday, 5 March 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)
If you want weird jazz-meets-punk w/ poetry and funnies and shit, the best band on SST you can ever possibly investigate is the almighty Saccharine Trust, who in fact rule you all, even if you don't know it yet.
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 5 March 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)
1. Paper Bag2. October Faction3. Leaving Trains4. Zoogz Rift5. Black Flag (1984 onwards) - possibly a controversial choice, but has anyone ever actually made it all the way through "The Process Of Weeding Out"? That has to be the single worst improv record I've ever heard.
― udu wudu (udu wudu), Friday, 5 March 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)
I've never heard Zoogz Rift. I do own an Always August lp though!
― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 5 March 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)
Any such list is incomplete without the deranged folly of Greg Ginn's astoundingly wretched 90s side projects and diversions, which seemed to be released for no other reason than stupidity (although perhaps some of the names above in fact are some of those projects). I give to you the idiotic Hor, with that stellar song "Albini Bush Lick."
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd600/d603/d603662s0dp.jpg
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 March 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)
WTF is going on with that cover? Call me an innocent but I can't figure it out.
― udu wudu (udu wudu), Friday, 5 March 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― dlp9001, Friday, 5 March 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Pantheon of Idols
http://people.brandeis.edu/~cmyme/zoogz.GIF
remembers me of Ignacious from that John Kennedy Toole book. am i the only one loving his brilliant 'Chromium Slit Negatives' (on 'Nonentity')? haven't heard 'Island Of Living Puke' though.
― eleki-san (eleki-san), Friday, 5 March 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― dlp9001, Friday, 5 March 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)
I agree that IOLP is basically listenable and has some very amusing moments (I tuned out an album or two after that). Would you please provide a link to the blog? I almost listed "A Very Beautiful Song for a Very Special Young Lady" in the "fake orgasms in pop songs" thread a while back. The album was recorded by Ethan James, which has a lot to do with its success--Zoogz' ear in the studio was pretty lousy. I don't think it is available on cd. I found mp3's of IOLP on Soulseek, but unfortunately the vinyl rip didn't go very well. In the Worst of SST pantheon he is beaten out by Gone and Swa, at the least.
Zoogz does however get some points for the wrestling business, in a knid of avant-garde "art into life" way, but then Andy Kaufman had already done it (and given that "My Breakfast With Blassie" was a fave of ZR's, the retread was conscious). And, after stating for years during his Beefheart-esque signature tune "Heart Attack" that one day he would have a heart attack performing it, he eventually did, at least according to the rumor I heard.
― zogzripped, Friday, 5 March 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)
Agreed. Add to list: Tom Troccoli's Dog, Slovenly.
― George Smith, Friday, 5 March 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 March 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)
This seems to me reminiscent of The Nig Heist. Re "Hot Muff."
― George Smith, Friday, 5 March 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)
m.
― msp, Friday, 5 March 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.aspma.com/trubee.htm
― dlp9001, Friday, 5 March 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.aspma.com/graphics/ramsey.jpg
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 March 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 5 March 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― George Smith, Friday, 5 March 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Trubee--part of an exodus Zoogz led from Paterson NJ to L.A.--is even worse than Zoogz. His prank calls can be funny if you go in for that, and "Blind Man's Penis" is a classic (the interest of the song IS the way it was recorded), but his own music is excruciating lite jazz-rock and his shtick--I'm a victim of an uncaring society that doesn't recognize my unique genius so I will scream about it--is, well, you can see what it is.
― zogsripped, Friday, 5 March 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)
Still have the Tom Troccoli record in my frisbee pile if anyone really wants it. Actually, I do sometimes break out 'Girl From The North Country' if I'm feeling particularly addled. Who the heck was he anyhow?
Worst SST thing I ever owned: Glenn Philips - Elevator. Super bad, I don't know what the heck they were thinking there...
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)
Noblesse oblige to Hampton-Grease Band, maybe.
― George Smith, Friday, 5 March 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)
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― George Smith, Friday, 5 March 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)
I not only owned Glenn Philips - Elevator, but I also had his mid-70's albums, Lost At Sea and Swim In The Wind. Why? I couldn't tell you myself. I've also still got an 80's or 90's era Col. Bruce Hampton cd which is pretty dire, available for free if anyone wants it. Music To Eat by the Hampton Grease Band rocks though, I think it might have been reissued too.
― udu wudu (udu wudu), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)
Yeah, maybe so, but Philips had been making terrible solo records for, I dunno, a dozen years before Elevator. Maybe I'm being harsh on him though, cos I've just remembered what Run Westy Run sounded like.
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)
"...Look, I'm not some music fascist, telling you what you can and can't listen to, but if you listen to Zoogz Rift I will have you beaten senseless by my jack-booted thugs. I actually had one of this guy's albums, for which I paid $0.99. I got ripped off. Regardless, you can't hold a newsgroup responsible for this..."
― George Smith, Friday, 5 March 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)
1. Black Flag - Depression2. Husker Du - Chartered Trips3. Meat Puppets - Up On The Sun4. Das Damen - Girl With The Hair5. Minutemen - The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts6. Blind Idiot God - Stravinsky / Blasting Off7. Universal Congress Of - Chasing8. Descendents - Global Probing9. Saint Vitus - Saint Vitus10. Lee Ranaldo - Time Stands Still11. Cruel Frederick - Jukebox In The East River12. fIREHOSE - Choose Any Memory13. Negativland - Car Bomb14. Saccharine Trust - The Giver Takes15. Pell Mell - Bring On The China16. Sonic Youth - Schizophrenia17. Grant Hart - All Of My Senses18. Steve Fisk - Priorities19. Elliot Sharp/Soldier String Quartet - Tessalation Row
― udu wudu (udu wudu), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)
Long Beach (I think) instrumental jazz-rock of sorts. I had the first album for a while, it was okay, but I liked the lead guy's other band the Cambridge Pipers more.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― George Smith, Friday, 5 March 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)
NickB sums up what I like about Slovenly, I think. It's definitely all about the band interplay, they were just a fantastic group, although I don't mind the vocals at all. The guitar playing is really nice; Verlaine a good reference point, yes, but there's also a spindly post-Harkleroad sensibility in some of the lead lines. They wrote good songs.
― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― udu wudu (udu wudu), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 5 March 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 6 March 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)
3 Beads of Sweat mourns the passing of Baculum guitarist Scott Ziegler, who was found dead on September 7, 2003.
This makes me really sad; I'm breaking out Thinking of Empire right now.
― NickB (NickB), Saturday, 6 March 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 March 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Saturday, 6 March 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)
Worst SST Bands:
1) Paper Bag/SWA (it's a tie!)2) Run Westy Run3) Treacherous Jaywalkers4) Always August5) DC3Aaahh, despite the greats, there were too many...
Anyone bagging Slovenly needs their head read.
― Dave Lang, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 07:49 (twenty-one years ago)
BTW wanna buy some Trotsky Icepick? ;o)
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)
That said, I've only heard the Looser Than Clams comp and a couple of his later albums. (And yes, of course, some of his lyrics can be hard to take.) But I am interested in Zoogz. All those SST LPs should be easier to find. I tried a couple of years ago to buy bulk copies of old SST obscurities directly from them, but to no avail.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 19 September 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 27 August 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 August 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 14 July 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)
Hooray, finally found Looser Than Clams floating out there in the ether.
― Religious Embolism (WmC), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)
Guitar playing on Island Of Living Puke was pretty sweet iirc.
While living in Gainesville FL I saw a band bust out a cover version of 'The Circle' from the abovementioned LP, which was a major WAIT WHUT moment...
― heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)
I think Zoogz' Zappa/Beefheart-isms are OK when he shuts up and plays his guitar. And Glenn Phillips' Lost At Sea is fine too. He's up there with Zoot Horn Rollo.
― Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)
RIP
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
had a couple of his tapes. not amazing, but really entertaining in small doses. RIP
― CharlieS, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, that's sad. I listened to Island Of Living Puke about 1000 times in my teens. Water almost as much.
― return, descender (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
;_; RIP
― WmC, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
enriched my lifebye rob
― meisenfek, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 23:41 (fourteen years ago)
Quite sad to hear this, he always used to be my SST whipping boy but hey, he wouldn't have cared what anyone thought of him I don't think! Also, Idiots On The Miniature Golf Course is the greatest album title ever.
RIP Zoogz
― Nogma (Matt #2), Thursday, 24 March 2011 10:16 (fourteen years ago)
This is sad. Always had a secret hope that he would turn up on this thread and lambast us all for being rude about his oeuvre. Hope that heaven has some happy cretins for him to murder anyway.
― ka£ka (NickB), Thursday, 24 March 2011 10:24 (fourteen years ago)
Relistening to Island of Living Puke at the moment. Probably the only SST release actually worth re-hearing here in 2011...
― dlp9001, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
WHILE I MASTURBATE IN PAINFUL ECSTASY
― Michael B, Thursday, 24 March 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)