1982 Lullabies 4AD 1983 Peppermint Pig 4AD 1983 Sunburst and Snowblind 4AD 1984 The Spangle Maker 4AD 1985 Aikea-Guinea 4AD 1985 Echoes in a Shallow Bay 4AD 1985 Tiny Dynamine 4AD 1986 Love's Easy Tears Relativity 1990 Iceblink Luck Capitol 1993 Evangeline Fontana 1993 Snow Fontana 1994 Bluebeard Capitol 1995 Twinlights Capitol 1995 Otherness Capitol 1996 Tishbite #2 Fontana 1996 Tishbite #1 Fontana 1996 Violaine #2 Fontana 1996 Violaine #1 Fontana
Let's hear it, kids...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― piscesboy, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)
"Those eyes, that mouth" was on Love's Easy Tears.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike a, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― rainman (rainman), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)
The thing I find that's so fascinating about this is that while there's a legitimate criticism of the band that all their stuff sounds kind of the same (something that became particularly clear by the 90s), when you put these up against each other, they all seem quite different.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Norman, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)
Whoah.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)
I have to go with the Love's Easy Tears EP also, I mean, it has "Orange Appled"! 1986 is just my favorite year for the Cocteaus, with that EP, Victorialand, and "Crushed" from the Lonely Is An Eyesore compilation.
― Seb (Seb), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)
Should I get the singles box set?
― Leee the Lee (Leee), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leee the Lee (Leee), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Norman, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Seb (Seb), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Singles box is excellent — even for the mid-level fan. You could almost argue that it's all you need.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leee the Lee (Leee), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)
I listened to Treasure on cd for the first time recently and I thought it sounded ultra tinny as compared to my vinyl version. The "oomph" was lost somehow.
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)
Actually, beyond the tinnyness (something I believe has to do w/ the reissues), I always thought it seemed much more aligned with the trad. 4AD/Goth stuff than their other work. That said, my copy was stolen years ago (presumably by a Dead Can Dance fan), so all I'm really remembering is "Ivo" and the one with the really clangy drum machine.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― zappi (joni), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
Not much goes on, just a performance video though it is well shot. It has that guazy pre-Twin Peaks feeling going for it.
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)
S'there!
I went for a long time not liking "Treasure" all that much but thatd be the fact I was in a near-car accident the first day I heard it.
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)
Here in Canada, they are added on the CD version of Garlands along with different versions of "Hazel" (which is better than the one on Peppermint Pig IMO), and "Blind dumb deaf" plus 2 bonus tracks "Speak No Evil" and "Perhaps Some Other Aeon".
Even though I love it, I agree with Treasure not being their best album as most people always seem to claim. For me, it's between Head Over Heels and Victorialand, even though I'd take the EPs over most albums, they're just that great.
― Seb (Seb), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― zappi (joni), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Seb (Seb), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)
Even though Iceblink luck was good even though the consensus at the time was that they had somehow sold out?
― hector (hector), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.cocteautwins.com/html/media/video.html
gosh. all their videos online, streaming quicktime.
― (Jon L), Thursday, 11 March 2004 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 March 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― jazz odysseus, Thursday, 11 March 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Sunburst And Snowblind probably had the most impact on me at the time, cos it was fairly concurrent with Head Over Heels which I was absolutely in love with. and there's the tie-in of "Sugar Hiccup", which makes it seem an extension of the album: "Sugar Hiccup, our cheery horse..."
"Peppermint Pig" is the best title track - the sound of that record and her vocal take me back like nothing else (I must have been in love at the time, or something)
― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 11 March 2004 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― jazz odysseus, Thursday, 11 March 2004 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― echoinggrove, Thursday, 11 March 2004 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 11 March 2004 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 11 March 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 11 March 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 11 March 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)
I guess I should buy Heaven Or Las Vegas or Treasure or whatever, cos most of these frustrate me, to the tune of, "Hrm. This isn't it--this isn't "my" Cocteau album. Not yet... which one...".
Except for Twinlights--ahem--which is what I'd pick for best CT I own, and thus best EP.
― John 2, Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevo (stevo), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)
And I just bought *Head over Heels* on cd and have failed to play it all the way through. It used to be ecstasy, every time. I guess I grew out of it without noticing.
I'm glad other people like *Peppermint Pig* because I always loved it, and the Cocteaux famously don't. The first and last time they worked with Alan Rankine (ex-Associates).
EPs? *Lullabies* for me too.
― Colin Greenland (Colin Greenland), Saturday, 27 March 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Now I have to choose between Lullabies and Aikea-Guinea. Lullabies it is.
― Ian Riese-Moraine's exploding hamster zeppelin! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)
anyway, love's easy tears.
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine's exploding hamster zeppelin! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine's exploding hamster zeppelin! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 20:56 (nineteen years ago)
― alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)
― alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Trayce, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 00:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Trayce, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 00:29 (nineteen years ago)
― electricsound, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 00:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Bimble, Thursday, 1 March 2007 07:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 1 March 2007 14:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Trayce, Friday, 2 March 2007 01:47 (nineteen years ago)
― jonathan - stl, Friday, 2 March 2007 05:25 (nineteen years ago)
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn306/Floridian_20/CocteauTwins_AikeaGuinea_ep.jpg
One of the most horribly over-produced records ever. And somehow STILL in the upper 10% of Cocteau Twins recordings. Go figure. I can't believe I'm hearing this again after so many years. "Rococco" is especially flipping my lid right now. Unlike most of the rest of Cocteau Twins discography, I never got this one on CD in any form, so it's the old THICK 4AD VINYL IN MY EARS now. And why would I have it any other way, really, for such a horribly produced record?
― Roasted Ghost (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 20 October 2008 04:19 (seventeen years ago)
bits of 'watchlar' are very reminiscent of 'big yellow taxi' to these ears
― thereminimum chips (electricsound), Monday, 20 October 2008 04:42 (seventeen years ago)
singles box set is up on emusic now too
― thereminimum chips (electricsound), Monday, 20 October 2008 05:18 (seventeen years ago)
Holy crap, you're right xpost
― Trayce, Monday, 20 October 2008 05:21 (seventeen years ago)
Now I can hear Liz warbling "paid paradise, to put up a paha ha ha ha haaarking loootttt"
She would of course retitle the song "Harkinglot".
― Trayce, Monday, 20 October 2008 05:22 (seventeen years ago)
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn306/Floridian_20/CocteauLullabies.jpg
― Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 21 March 2009 12:21 (sixteen years ago)
Having listened to Lullabies to Violaine in its entirety last night, I can safely go with Sunburst & Snowblind, though, man, what a stellar career run of EPs. I'll also put in a good word for the undersung Twinlights.
― 2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Saturday, 21 March 2009 15:11 (sixteen years ago)
ALL BUT AN ARK LARK
― Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 22 March 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)
I still think that maroon EP box is the best way to listen to them. It’s been Love’s Easy Tears for a while tho.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 05:02 (five years ago)
I spent, like, a week's rent on the box when it came out, never regretted for a second.
― assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 06:40 (five years ago)
A roommate of mine used to tease me about how hard I rode all my nice boxed sets – but he was more of a collector and I was more of a listener. This one got a ton of listens – particularly that stretch of Sunburst and Snowblind, Spanglemaker, Aikea Guinea, Echoes in a Shallow Bay/Tiny Dynamine and Love’s Easy Tears. There’s something about these EPs that just work for me in a way most of their long players do not. In part it’s maybe because the hit/miss ratio is higher – at least three of these have no songs that are even average much less Cocteaus by-the-numbers. I also think their production style varies more from release to release than is apparent at first – for instance, the gated compressed sound of Love’s Easy Tears sounds almost nothing like the Echoes/Dynamine two-fer from a year earlier (and Aikea-Guinea from the same year sounds like none of them). So even if I jump around a little, there’s a freshness to listening to these three or four song blasts that their albums don’t really deliver.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 18:39 (five years ago)
There's something very enjoyable about listening to all the albums and EPs in chronological order from about Head Over Heels through to Victorialand (give or take a bit on either side) - that five year stretch where it felt like the band were progressing and refining their sound and incorporating new ideas and influences while managing to sound ever more like themselves, with a sense of a "leap" forward (even if only a small one at times) with each release.
It reminds me (not sonically) of Stereolab's development over a comparable (92 - 96) time period.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 23:15 (five years ago)
Karl Malone to thread!
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 23:27 (five years ago)
One of my most enduring favourite record shopping surprises was walking into my local one day when I was a student and finding all the UK 12” EPs from “Sunburst and Snowblind” through to “Love’s Easy Tears” had just come in. Happily paid a couple of quid each. Considered moving them on when ‘Lullabies to Violaine’ came out but glad I didn’t, I quite like them as concise bursts of self-contained listening.
― hamicle, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 23:35 (five years ago)
Xp Yes! Stereolab another great example of artists who can craft EPs that are their own little universes. Who else comes to mind and is that even a thing anymore?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 12 November 2020 03:09 (five years ago)
If there was ever an "expanded" 4AD-era CD reissue project (the time for that has long passed, I imagine), and the LPs were padded out with chronologically-adjacent EPs/B-sides/compilation tracks, where would they be assigned?
Garlands + Lull + PP makes sense, I guessHoH + S&S + Millim + Spangle?Treasure + A-G + EiaSB + TD (nope, too long - 87min)Victorialand + Love's ET (incl Orange Appled) + Crushed + maybe one of the 1985 EPsBBK... gets nothing?HoLV + Iceblink B-sides + High Monkey-Monk + Dials
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 12 November 2020 10:33 (five years ago)
Slowdive and MBV, certainly. xp
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, 12 November 2020 10:58 (five years ago)
Love's Easy Tears + Crushed would feel really out of place with Victorialand. I would put the 4 vocal tracks from the Moon and the Melodies as bonus tracks instead.
Release Echos, Tiny Dynamine, Love's Easy Tears and Crushed as one LP.
4CC gets Snow
Milk and Kisses + Twinlights + Otherness
xp
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:30 (five years ago)
Ah, nice idea with Vic + MatM vocal tracks.
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 12 November 2020 17:34 (five years ago)