Jack White pleads guilty to assault and battery

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Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

And he has to take anger management! My friend said "What about suck management?" Haw, haw, &c.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040309/capt.dt10403091822.jack_white_fight_dt104.jpg

He looks like someone's ex-wife.

maypang (maypang), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

He looks like either Davey Havoc or Martin Short disguised as Ann Margaret.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

His lawyer almost looks crazier.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

He looks like Damien Echols.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

He looks like that one kid out of Hedwig and the Angry Inch minus the cross on his head and plus a few pounds.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

he should've just beaten up Ryan Adams - don't tell me he couldn't if he wanted to

i take it he's not going to prison then

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Rock stars don't go to prison.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

They should make him go to band camp.

maypang (maypang), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

jesus he does look like someones ex wife in a mid nineties court room drama or something
maypang otm

robin (robin), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

this is a good opportunity to highlight the difference in opinion towards Jack White and 50 Cent. Jack White attacked someone physically. 50 Cent made some comments about not liking homosexuals (tho he didn't attack a gay man physically). So which is worse? Who deserves more disdain?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Nothing wrong with kicking a little ass de temps en temps.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

he looks so dainty.. like.. "could this face kick anyone's ass, your honor?"

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

so violence is not always wrong? and actions are not always more damaging than words?

(playing devil's advocate here - may start a new thread out of this...)

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Violence is wrong yeah but the reason for there being more outrage when Eminem verbally attacks fags than when Eminem pistol-whips a guy (to use a more balanced comparison) is that a) the pistol-whipping only really offends the guy who got pistol-whipped even if nobody would like it to happen to them and b) there's a lot more scope for analysis/bullshit/whatever around 'the effects' on fans of misogyny and homophobia.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

but who is going to be hurt by 50's comments really? we'd all be far more shocked if he'd come out and said 'i have no problem with homosexuals, really'. homosexuals have got used to it by now, esp. from the rap genre, and other genres that revolve around machismo (including the bluesy rock of the White Stripes, and even the likes of The Strokes who could stand to be a little more 'bent' imo and fwiw).

why does it seem that hip hop is more homophobic and mysogynist than rock n' roll anyway? if this is really a myth what allows it to be perpetuated?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean 'bent' like Iggy or Bowie of course

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

homosexuals have got used to it by now

Are you sure?

Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i think 50 kind of did say "I have no problem with homosexuals, really", plus "i just choose not to associate with them because they make me uncomfortable". which is a bit dumb, sure, but it's probably how a lot of straight guys lead their lives.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

GAWD I WANT TO PUNCH JAK WHIET TO DEATHS

dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

yes Ricardo, every single one of them! okay my bad - but the point was comments like the ones made by 50 or whatever rock star out there is a homophobe are nothing new to them, and why should his views cause them that much bother when a) it doesn't seem likely that 50 Cent is bought or appreciated by a lot of gay guys and b) it was only a view in this case and not something acted upon, nor was it a direct incitement (unlike the type from dancehall bastions past).

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

a) it doesn't seem likely that 50 Cent is bought or appreciated by a lot of gay guys

Do you actually think this?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, OK, so he's not got a gay fanbase, but do you think the average homosexual is less likely to own "Get Rich or Die Trying" than the average hetero?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

statistically...yes

i can't say for sure but it seems likely. i've never met a gay man who was really into rap in the same way straight guys i know are and have been. i'm willing to concede that's just my experience though, and not an absolute truth.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

jack white should kick the shit out of ryan adams. apparently it will only set him back $750 bucks.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

it doesn't mean a gay guy isn't going to think 'In Da CLub' is a fantastic club track just because 50 bashed them. i feel exactly the same way, i haven't bought anything by 50 tho and am unlikely to.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

New Study Links Homophobia with Homosexual Arousal

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia -- the fear, anxiety, anger, discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual people hold for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed homosexual urges that the person is either unaware of or denies. A study appearing in the August 1996 issue of the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, published by the American Psychological Association (APA), provides new empirical evidence that is consistent with that theory.

Researchers at the University of Georgia conducted an experiment involving 35 homophobic men and 29 nonhomophobic men as measured by the Index of Homophobia scale. All the participants selected for the study described themselves as exclusively heterosexual both in terms of sexual arousal and experience.

Each participant was exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual and lesbian videotapes (but not necessarily in that order). Their degree of sexual arousal was measured by penile plethysmography, which precisely measures and records male tumescence.

Men in both groups were aroused by about the same degree by the video depicting heterosexual sexual behavior and by the video showing two women engaged in sexual behavior. The only significant difference in degree of arousal between the two groups occurred when they viewed the video depicting male homosexual sex: 'The homophobic men showed a significant increase in penile circumference to the male homosexual video, but the control [nonhomophobic] men did not.'

Broken down further, the measurements showed that while 66% of the nonhomophobic group showed no significant tumescence while watching the male homosexual video, only 20% of the homophobic men showed little or no evidence of arousal. Similarly, while 24% of the nonhomophobic men showed definite tumescence while watching the homosexual video, 54% of the homophobic men did.

When asked to give their own subjective assessment of the degree to which they were aroused by watching each of the three videos, men in both groups gave answers that tracked fairly closely with the results of the objective physiological measurement, with one exception: the homophobic men significantly underestimated their degree of arousal by the male homosexual video.

Do these findings mean, then, that homophobia in men is a reaction to repressed homosexual urges, as psychoanalysis theorizes? While their findings are consistent with that theory, the authors note that there is another, competing theoretical explanation: anxiety. According to this theory, viewing the male homosexual videotape may have caused negative emotions (such as anxiety) in the homophobic men, but not in the nonhomophobic men. As the authors note, 'anxiety has been shown to enhance arousal and erection,' and so it is also possible that 'a response to homosexual stimuli [in these men] is a function of the threat condition rather than sexual arousal per se. These competing notions can and should be evaluated by future research.'

maria b (maria b), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

what's your point maria?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never met a gay man who was really into rap in the same way straight guys i know are and have been.

There's a decent amount of them, usually (in my experience) the "I'm not gay because I only sleep with drag queens (but I hang out in the Gayborhood)" variety.

anode (anode), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

jack white should kick the shit out of ryan adams. apparently it will only set him back $750 bucks.

We could take up a collection. Somebody set up a paypal account.

BTW, his hair looks like Michael Jackson's in that pic.

boldbury, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Maria b meant the above for the "50 Cent" thread that's standing oh-so near to Jack's Fat White Ass right now.

SexyDancer, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't associate with 50 Cent's music. it makes me feel uncomfortable

ken taylrr, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, after I posted this I thought to myself: I'm probably more like to go to jail for assault and battery some day than most people here.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

homophobia is so gay.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

heh

paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

'anxiety has been shown to enhance arousal and erection'

Wha? If this were true, I'd probably be walking around with a permanent hard-on.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 11 March 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)


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