s&d: ye olde bleep and bass

also this would be the place to tell me turn me on to other exciting dead-ends of history, bleep and bass era. problem is, i don't know what other labels were doing this sort of thing. i guess the sabres-related stuff would count. any sort of tips on strange early tribal house/trance would be fascinating.

early laurent g? early dave angel??

someone PLEASE tell me about the Coco Steel CD. it looks fantastic but $1.35/track is seems sort of steep for mp3s.

I have heard Coco Steel and the Tequila Slammers, but so long ago I can't recall anything beyond their existence.

I love the Sweet Exorcist Testone 12". I can tell you that much.

How did you find the Android Architect?

i broke down and bought the coco steel cd. sounds a lot like the very old, very housey orb tracks you'll hear mixed with old nightmares on wax. spacious and elegent but not really bleepy :-(

no need to mention lfo or nightmares on wax presumably but

you'll be wanting the CCCD full length by sweet exorcist, it stands for clonk's coming compact disc and it kind of like a single-remixed-everywhichway-as-album deal vis a vis the 'clonk' single, some amazing stuff on there

rob gordon had a double album of his productions out several years ago
Rob Gordon Projects on Source Records

unique 3 are the dons, their album Jus Unique was great, and all the 12 inches of that time have great alternate mixes,

their label Chill had lots of other artists on, Original Clique are pretty good, the North of Watford EP

another label that did a lot of bleep was Network -- acts like Rhythmatic, early Altern 8 before they went 'ardcore, Nexus 21 who were altern-8's first incarnation, Forgemasters, Energise, XON -- loadsa great stuff

yet another bleep label was Bassic who had Ital Rockers

Ability II did a great track called 'pressure' on OUter Rhythm

D-Zone label was sort of bleep'n'breaks, a transitional sound, some good stuff

if you're in London this stuff is easy to find at Music & Video Exchange at reasonable prices, i think because a lot of copies were pressed at the time because Rave was at its height, and for some reason Bleeps not got the cachet that breakbeat hardcore has. Same with the Belgian stuff, i keep waiting for that to become revived, again those records are plentiful and reasonable verging on dirt cheap

I like the CS&L album, but it's in no way bleepy (too late, you already have it). It's all pretty much like "Feel It". I think that it's still the only "conventional" house record that Warp ever released (it was certainly WAY out of sync with what they were putting out at the time).

There was a second L.F.O. (note the periods), their singles were "Brainstorm" and (damn, can't remember, and the tape that it's on is on another continent). Solid, deep bass quakes, but a little more uptempo/ravey than the Sheffield LFO. They were probably Belgian.

I've heard only one Pre-"Papua New Guinea" FSOL track, it's called "Innate" (it's damn good, of course) and it got lumped in with a lot of the bleep records, even though it has little in common with them other than the rumbling basslines that were popular on so many of the records mentioned by you and Simon.

The Evolution of the Groove comp is CLASSIC, KLASSIK, CLASSIQUE, all the best of the early Warp singles (WAP 1-10, in fact). Tequila Slammers is WAP 11-20, it was released in 1992, and it sounds like ... uh, 1992. Therefore, it hasn't held up well over the years, but that goes for a lot of stuff from 1992.

'CCEP' by Sweet Exorcist is the daddy of them all. If only people had followed their lead, we'd all be in utopia by now. It's indescribably weird and funky.

Then there's Unique 3's Jus Unique (sounded good at the time, just went back to it and some of the rappier tracks haven't aged well, but the bleepy stuff still sounds good).

The first Nightmares on Wax LP has bleep classics like Dextrous and A Case of Funk on it and still sounds great now. I say it's the best album Warp ever released. They hadn't started their slide into stoner grooves back then and were full of energy and just enough soul to balance to coldness.

The Coco Steel album is a little housey, a little rainy day England, a little classy, not very bleepy.

There's some early Warp compilations from this era which are bleeptastic. Look out for 'Evolution of the Groove'

I think I've added very little to what others have said, but anyway, that's my two cents.

having listened to the album several times over the last 24hrs i'll venture to call it classic!! the second cut in particular is great: this sort of pumping microhousey rhythm made with these really quiet and synthetic-sounding drums, a percolating half-speed acid bassline (that's actually quite bleepy), and lots of half-second disco samples given the very very very heavy heavy heavy dub treatment - you can practically see them rippling out over the stereofield until they tickle your ears. it's a bit like the jedi knights would do with their samples several years later, only much more so.

i've already got cccd! but i'll definitely check "evolution of.." and that rob gordon comp. thanks all!

was at a party on sat and heard some wicked bleepy stuff, big basslines and e...well loads of bleeps. so what else is there, outside Warp. does anyone wanna do a mixtape tracklisting for me?!?!

Sweet Exorcist - TestOne (warp)
Original Clique - Come to Papa (chill)
XON - Bopulate (network)
Forgemasters - Track With No Name (warp)
Nightmares on Wax - Dextrous (warp)
Ital Rockers - Ital's Anthem (bassic)
Steve Poindexter - Computer Madness (warehouse)
Tricky Disco (warp)
Mystic Knights - The Wrath of Khan (wau! mr modo)
Nexus 21 - Self Hypnosis (network)
Nightmares on Wax - I'm For Real (warp)
Unique 3 - The Theme (original mix) (ten)
Looney Tunes - Inject the Beat (xl)
Nightmares on Wax - Aftermath (LFO Remix) (warp)
Rhythmatic - Take Me Back (network)
Lil Louis - Video Crash (dance mania)
Project One - Ferrari (tam-tam)
Sweet Exorcist - Samba (warp)
Man Machine featuring Forgemasters - Man Machine (Cyber Subsonik) (outer rhythm)
LFO - Simon from Sydney (warp)
Mad Bastard - I Am The Future (omen)
Hypersonic - Dance Tones (D-Zone)
The Scientist - The Exorcist (Kickin')

hie me to slsk i think.....

A1 T99 - "Anasthasia (Out Of History Mix)" (4:35)
A2 Hardcore Uproar - "High On Hope (Out Of The Blue Remix)" (5:15)
A3 Boneshakers - "One Step Ahead (B.I.D. Mix)" (5:57)
B1 Zero Zero - "The Sanity Clause (Stoopid)" (4:28)
B2 Mental Generation - "Slam (The Mental Coma Dub)" (5:17)
B3 The Psychopaths - "Nightmare" (7:05)
C1 Tricky Disco - "House Fly (Radical Rockers Remix)" (6:18)
C2 The Scientist - "Spiral Symphony (The Magic Synthony In C Minor)" (5:00)
C3 Toxic - "Original Style" (5:28)
C4 100 Hz - "Catching Spyders (In This Place Remix)" (6:05)
D1 The Hypnotist - "Rainbows In The Sky" (8:30)
D2 Kromozone - "The Rush" (5:40)
D3 Mr. Monday - "Future (Original Version)" (7:00)

rob gordon had a double album of his productions out several years ago
Rob Gordon Projects on Source Records

Found this today. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

I want that! Haven't seen it for less than £20.. It's been on my list for 13 years or so..

Report back, if you wouldn't mind?

yeah please

excellent, duh.

Although it covers a relatively broad time range (1991 to 1995) it mostly feels of a piece - perhaps not surprisingly a lot of the later material strikes me as being what an LFO album halfway between Frequencies and Advance would have sounded like.

Now I just need the Sweet Exorcist and Unique 3 albums.

yeah, this is hitting the spot.

https://ceasedesist1.bandcamp.com/album/join-the-future-uk-bleep-bass-1988-91

will check that out after work.

oh nice, I’ve been getting into this stuff a lot lately!!

also released by an ilm'r no less.
and yes, this is a cracking collection.
made me remember i have the Man Machine album on cd, and i don't think i have ever listened to it.
time to go a digging.

in the same ball park is this brilliant comp.
unfortunately, the cd is a PDO pressing, and has got the dreaded rot.
thankfully i got a clean 320 rip before things got too bad.

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Bio-Rhythm-Dance-Music-With-Bleeps/master/31773

ohhh yea I LOVE the rhythmatic track that opens that comp. great stuff.

agreed.
just realised that the cd edition has more tracks than the vinyl edition.
cannot deny that the kate b track totally dominated my world for quite a while.

cd is def worth it for the Paris Grey track at the end, deep moody darkness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrYQZUjLs3w

https://warriorsdance.bandcamp.com/album/tuffest-of-the-tuffest-2019-edition

that Join The Future compilation is a companion to this book. i haven't read it yet but it looks excellent!

i recently found Unique 3 - Jus' Unique 2LP in the hip-hop section of a record store and grabbed it- some very nice bleeps (and tracks unavailable elsewhere) on there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNPYTTWKIIM

i think my unique 3 story is featured in that book.
basically i was at downbeat in leeds, and the nighmares on wax crew were on the decks, and the unique 3 crew came in.
they came with a box of white labels of 'the theme'.
they played it.
place went absolutely mental.
so, it got played again.
place went insane.
got played again.
etc.
was quite an experience.
not read the book, but i have chatted to the author re my downbeat experiences.
eg. getting to the door only for the bouncers to not let me in cos i am white, and me explaining how i had been several times before.
after some discussion, the bloke that was in charge of the night came to the door (dj fat mark), saw it was me, and cos he knew me via the AOC crew, let me in.

i think that the author, matt, had heard re that unique 3 thing happening, and when i told him my story it just confirmed what he had heard before.

Jus' Unique is massively underrated; this one still sounds like it is being beamed in from the future - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNPYTTWKIIM

I highly recommen reading Join The Future.

Turbo jealous you got to go to Downbeat.

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^^31 years old! Wild.

very well done but i find it hard to get my head round making such an authentic homage to music from 30+ years ago.

https://soundsoftheuniverse.com/product/non-stop-rhythms

also, there is a 3rd volume of the original bleep comp - bio rhythm.

https://www.juno.co.uk/products/bio-rhythm-3-re-indulge/844511-01/?utm_source=Juno_Plus&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=Juno_Plus&utm_content=Dusted+Down+%26%238211%3B+Various+Artists%3A+Bio+Rhythm+%28Network+Records%2C+1990%29

the cover art is a continuation of the same design used for the original editions, but the label had forgotten to credit trevor jackson.
he was not impressed.
so he contacted the powers that be, and all was resolved and he got signed up to do more design stuff for them.