Guilty Pleasures: Name an Artist/Band That You Can't Justify Enjoying

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The Shaggs and Wesley Willis come to mind I suppose, but then i CAN justify liking them.
Whattayougot?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 March 2004 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but both the Shaggs and Wesley Willis have arguably hipster ironic cred (especially the former in record collecting circles).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 March 2004 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Although it's def not a guilty pleasure, but I am obsessed with Madonna's Human Nature and, lately, Moodyman. Especially the latter doesn't really contain anything that really fits in my taste/record collection, yet in in Moodyman's sound I get completely lost in the same way I enjoy Burt Bacharach/Portishead or Boards of Canada (and forget reality).

― jesus nathalie (nathalie), Sunday, 14 March 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

As I always say in guilty pleasure threads, I can't help enjoying No Doubt.

― dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Sunday, 14 March 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Pete Yorn

(hangs head in shame)

― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Sunday, 14 March 2004 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

it's easy to justify anything if you accept that you're a dork.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 March 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

the idea of having to justify ones taste = dud.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 14 March 2004 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Pearl Jam's first album.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 14 March 2004 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know if I'd frame it as "struggling to justify them," but I'm somewhat sheepish to admit to liking some Fish-era Marillion and the Fixx (or at least up through Phantoms).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 March 2004 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Ian Johnson OTM, however I'm still v. ashamed for loving Kansas.

― udu wudu (udu wudu), Sunday, 14 March 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

the new Air album. i hate them.

― tod (tod), Sunday, 14 March 2004 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm somewhat sheepish to admit to liking some Fish-era Marillion

but Fish was such a great lyricist when he was on form that it makes up for the band's woeful ploddingness.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 14 March 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I like what I like because I like it. Why feel guilty about stuff you love? I don't care how lame people think I am for liking Cherry Pie or Pac Man Fever or Under the Table and Dreaming.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 14 March 2004 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I only get angsty if I can't explain (or admit) WHY I like it, which is a whole nother thing than justification.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 March 2004 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

We've been over this. But:

Glenn Gould
Life of Agony
Into Another

― roger adultery, Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

GG Allin -- I WIN!!!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Interpol

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

They only have one don't they?

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

serious answer -- coldplay.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry. Wrong thread.

But you know. I too kind of feel that way about them. Not completly.

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

(x post)

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

'Glenn Gould'

Ok this is interesting. Why can't you justify Gould?

― pete s, Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

pete - search the archives - namely a thread titled "Am I Pretentious For Listening To Glenn Gould?" I recall being told not to 'forget my beret.'

Oh, ILM, you cynically wondrous beast!

Actually I'm listening to The English Suites Vol 1 right now - I've been on a kick.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I know several people who just despise Gould. They hate his tempos, wilfulness, whistling, or his outre opinions. I enjoy reading my copy of 'the Glenn Gould Reader' for just that reason. His ideas about Mozart and Beethoven are wacky, sometimes without any relationship to truth, and sometimes startlingly insightful.
But truthfully, i don't enjoy his discs. The 'Gouldberg Variations' was the second classical record i bought btw.

― pete s, Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I love this piece. Gould interviewing himself:

http://www.nlc-bnc.ca/glenngould/m23-502.7-f.html

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Goldberg Variations. I will check out that book! Thanks Pete

will check out that link - thanks Scott!

― roger adultery, Sunday, 14 March 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Breakfast in America by Supertramp. There, I said it.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I like one song by Good Charlott. The one about the rich and famous.

There! HURT ME!! PLEASE!!

I'm so ashamed of that now. I thought it was ok when it first came out, but now that I know a bit more of their songs, Oh Lord!!!

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Aja, that song has the dumbest lyrics of any popular song ever, including "Sha Boom" and "MacArthur Park"

I haven't wanted to beat a band up so bad since Menudo

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I know. But who cares about lyrics any way? I already said I feel bad about liking it.

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

No, no, no diss to you. I just mean, wow. I mean, Jeez Louise. I mean, GOOD GAWD THAT'S TERRIBLE!!!

Omigod I'm white knuckled just thinking about them

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

they make me feel ashamed for loving Maryland. : (

But then Dave Grohl makes me like it agian.

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave Grohl is from Maryland??

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't he from Virginia?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

No. He was actually born in Ohio.

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, whatever. He applied for a job at the tower in DC

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

anthony miccio will now be yer best ILX friend, aja.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Why?

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 14 March 2004 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I love "It's Over Now" by Natasha Thomas.

Gould isn't good. His performances don't hold up against the competition at all, in my opinion. But I do own his Sibelius sonatines and lyric pieces, just because so few people have recorded that music. I rate Sibelius's piano pieces as that composer's best work, which probably makes me a bit strange. They are pure and stark, and lack virtuosity or the intricacy you get with pianist-composers.

― Bunged Up. (Jake Proudlock), Sunday, 14 March 2004 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm really, really into Chris Isaak.

― cws (cws), Sunday, 14 March 2004 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

naw, somebody's gotta appreciate the Good Charlotte Je Nay Zay KWA for me to do a backflip.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

[hushed tones]dashboard confessional[/] GAWD, I KNOW! SHADDAP!!!

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Monday, 15 March 2004 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Jay-Z circa The Blueprint (but not since "Beware Of The Boys" and certainly not on The Black Album).

― phoebe dinsmore's bastard nephew (robin carmody), Monday, 15 March 2004 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

that one lifehouse song.

― notfazed (notfazed), Monday, 15 March 2004 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Celine Dion - "My Heart Will Go On"

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 15 March 2004 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

i was going to post something about how much i hated guilty pleasures threads but then i got to sundar's post and now i dunno.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 March 2004 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a certain affection for that song too. But my reasons are deeply personal, and not that interesting.

― Huck, Monday, 15 March 2004 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Cher.

― Ian Grey (Ian_G), Monday, 15 March 2004 05:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Robert Palmer - Riptide

― holojames (holojames), Monday, 15 March 2004 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

A lot of Robert Plant's solo singles like "Heaven Knows", "Little By Little", "In the Mood" and the wince-enducingly named "Big Log".

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 March 2004 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex, Robert Plant and Supertramp are so not guilt-worthy. LOWER YOUR STANDARDS.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 15 March 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

hahahaha

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 March 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

dashboard confessional

that's S my new insult- creepier than "Yo, Devo" and the 12" Enid Coleslaw doll I saw in the window of Wall of Sound last night COMBINED.

"You Dashboard Confessional lookin' muthafucka"

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Monday, 15 March 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

SO, darn it

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Monday, 15 March 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hey Dashboard!"

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 15 March 2004 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael Buble'

― Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Monday, 15 March 2004 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Muse.

― scottontharox (scottkundla), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 07:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I feel the need to justify nothing. However, if I did, it would be difficult to do so with Coldplay.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Muse, actually.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Me too. They just go up and up and up. It's like every single thing is up to 11 and somehow doesn't end up Judas Priest (not that that's a bad thing).

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

mine : gorillaz. sigue sigue sputnik.

i feel the shame eminating towards me now.
i care not.
love em.
feel the breadth of the hype. the quality of the packaging. and listen to the music rarely...

― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

yessss, gorillaaaazzzzzzzzz

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

for some reason i fucking loved the gorillaz for a summer and kinda forgot about them.

i secretly love new order side projects. especially raise the pressure by electronic. but i cant make myself feel that guily about it..

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

REVIVE!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 27 August 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

Funny that liking Gorillaz was a source of shame two years ago.

― chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Sunday, 27 August 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

OK, a complete, alphabetical list of shame:

-Blur in their entirety (Song 2 and its ilk excepted)
-The Cooper Temple Clause (I can see how they're hated, but I myself think they're awesome)
-The last four tracks of Crash Test Dummies' 'A Worm's Life', unspeakably brilliant
-The first three tracks of The Dandy Warhols' 13 Tales From Urban Bohemia, ditto
-About half of Dodgy's 'Free Peace Sweet' (NOT 'Good Enough', ha)
-Are Elbow even 'guilty'?
-The Electric Soft Parade. Most people heard the first album and then dismissed them; the second album and recent EP are quite simply fantastic, and several notches above the initial effort.
-T*H F***Y F******S, especially B*******Y B**T (one of my favourite albums of the 00's and one of the few OTM Pitchfork scores I've seen recently)
-ONE SONG by Gay Dad (Black Ghost)
-One album (so far) by Genesis (Selling England By The Pound)
-One album (and it shall stay one album) by Gomez (the first one)
- 'Borrowed Time' by John Lennon
- 'Cutt Off' by Kasabian (ya rly)
- 'Coda--I Have A Dream' by King Crimson
-Some of Kula Shaker 'K'
-Some of Lo-Fidelity Allstars' 'How To Operate With A Blown Mind'
-I DO NOT APOLOGISE FOR MANSUN THEY ARE THE GREATEST BAND OF EVER
-I DO, however, apologise for my love of...The Inertiactic L'Viaquez Provocateur
-Quite a lot of Muse's 'Origin of Symmetry' and 'Absolution' (two unfairly-maligned albums IMO)
-"WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER NOW! NONE OF THIS CAN STOP US NOW! WE CAN MAKE IT THROUGH SOMEHOW!"
-Oceansize, bluntly, own.
-As do Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel's 'Greatest Hits'.
-Not to mention the first two tracks of 'Second Coming'
-And quite a lot of 'Aenima'
-LAST BUT NOT LEAST, that greatest of 1970's bands, that pinnacle of musical composition, that brilliant band (at least until Relayer)...Y/N? Y!

Don't be put off, though; I also like trendy, ILM-approved stuff too! ;-)

― Scourage (Haberdager), Sunday, 27 August 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

louis is (a fan of) gay (dad)

― Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 27 August 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

SIGUE SIGUE SPUTNIK IS NOT A GUILTY PLEASURE

― Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 27 August 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Neither are Blur

― zeus (zeus), Sunday, 27 August 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

But having '13' as one of my 5 favourite albums of the 90's...guilty as charged m'lud!

― Scourage (Haberdager), Sunday, 27 August 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I think '13' is not uncool, just simply boring.

― zeus (zeus), Sunday, 27 August 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

the idea of having to justify ones taste = dud.

-- Ian Johnson (johni72...), March 14th, 2004.

otm

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 28 August 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

there's plenty of great stuff on the first gay dad album

― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Monday, 28 August 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

I totally won this thread.

― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 28 August 2006 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

I agree w/Ian & latebloomer, why should we have to justify our taste?

that said, I enjoyed Alex's blog entry. for example, though, I've never understood the hate and subsequent guilt over Sade. when I was regularly interviewing musicians in the 80s and 90s I can't tell you how many people, from hip-hoppers to jazz guys, would cite her as THE BOMB. just listen, she's musically complex as well as sexy.

same to a lesser extent w/Simply Red. maybe the guy made an ass of himself in the British press, I dunno, but his early LPs are decent pop-soul and the album Stars is a (very)minor classic.

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 28 August 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

The entire dansband genre, which may be unknown to most of you, but which certainly has a reputation in Norway and Sweden.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 28 August 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

Breakfast in America for me too.
various Gerry Rafferty & Cat Stevens
Arc of a Diver by Steve Winwood
Physical Graffiti
Oxygene and Equinox
Star Wars OST
Beethoven Symphony #9 ("swinging" disco version)

― george gosset (gegoss), Monday, 28 August 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Canonical works may not be considered guilty pleasures.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 28 August 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

I like 8 Billy Joel songs.

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Heya George. Been a while.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

roll up the windows classics:
Two Princes - Spin Doctors
All I Wanna Do Is Thank you - Geggy Tah
Steal My Sunshine - Len
Lady Picture Show - STP

― Fjord Spellman (fjord), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

oh and I forgot:

In the Meantime - Spacehog

although that may be more a case of trying to justify the band name and the album cover of which I don't think is possible.

― Fjord Spellman (fjord), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

I see some folks have repped for Breakfast in America. I'll join that opinion. Incredible record

― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 1 September 2011 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

seven years pass...

There's this bit from a song that I've had in my head for years that I can never remember what it is, I just know that I heard it once as a kid and it was the saddest thing I'd ever heard and it made me cry a lot. Still makes me cry to think about it, those three notes and three notes and three notes and then I don't know. Well, I just found out it's 'Bring Him Home' from Les Mis and that has got to be the most embarrassing discovery I've ever had about myself.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 23:06 (seven years ago)

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