The Schlieffen Plan: Critics mandated to tell ignorant polity Franz Ferdinand named after an archduke, again and again and again....:

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Now, thanks to many writers, you never again have to plead ignorance on the question of how World War I started. But who were the generals in charge on the winning side at the Battle of Tannenberg?

From today's Los Angeles Times, drumming the facts home in case you forgot it from a week or so ago.

"Kapranos is talking buoyantly Monday afternoon as [Franz Ferdinand] -- named after the archduke whose assassination triggered World War I -- is driven from [here to there]..."

"When a band names itself after the Austrian archduke whose assassination helped trigger World War I, you know the
group probably [was named after an Austrian archduke.]"

Oot-greet.

― George Smith, Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha yeah whenever I research an article I'm dumbfounded on how every critic picks the same facts and quotes, even if they're not provided in the presskit! 50's fat kid/cake line, royce's primo/d&d line, etc.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I did think the arch pun wasn't bad in the last thread though! i mean i'm all for bad jokes, as opposed to duh-factdropping.

although i mean americans are not known for their grasp of world history.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Hidenburg & Ludendorff are the next Chad & Jeremy

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

damn. hiNdenburg

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I never wrote about it, but that "fat kid loves cake" line is the one I remember from "50 Questions." Maybe everyone quoted that cuz it was the really memorable one.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i think it's cuz there's just the one critic now that everyone smart is on ILM all the time.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Eery single article I've read on them squeezes the word "Glaswegians" somewhere in the text. Journalists just love that word. They can't say "Scottish," or "British," or "from Glasgow," no, they have to say "LOOK AT ME I'M A SMART WORLDLY JOURNALIST WHO KNOWS WHAT STRANGE WORD PEOPLE FROM GLASGOW REFER TO THEMSELVES AS."

Google search for Glaswegian Franz Ferninand: 520 results
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=glaswegian+franz+ferdinand

― yossarian, Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, that bites my ass. But worse is this:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%2B%22mancunian%22+%2B%22the+fall%22

― Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

so, who was Franz Ferdinand? I don't get it.

― Justin Leach, Thursday, 18 March 2004 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

His wife Sophie was killed too, she got short thrift.

― mzui, Thursday, 18 March 2004 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

His brother Rio got let off lightly though with just an eight-month ban.

― darren (darren), Thursday, 18 March 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

you can't blame that entirely on the writers. don't discount the contributions of the artists themselves, who give the same well-rehearsed answers to every interviewer no matter the line of questioning is.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 18 March 2004 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

the bigger question that all those articles raise, of course, is: what was world war I?

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 18 March 2004 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

what is royce's line?

― Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Friday, 19 March 2004 06:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Best one was on CD-UK (i think) where they subjected the band to a quick quiz..

q) Who shot the original archduke Franz Ferdinand?

Seeing as the b-side to the single is all "Bang Bang shoot me gavrillo" I think the band umm know that one.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 March 2004 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

me and primo/go together like d&d or something. also the "joe budden" one.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

So wait, I don't get it. Is Franz Ferdinand actually any good?

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 19 March 2004 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

it's beginning to look like "critics tiresomely mentioning Archduke in Franz Ferdinand reviews" threads are the "Pitchfork sucks and so does Outkast" threads of '04.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 19 March 2004 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

four months pass...

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0428/clover.php

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how Sterling's adding to the discourse by fingerpainting.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Cabaret was even the name of a musical in the '70s, except it was about America. I saw it last year, in a movie.

Loving your work, Sterling, but -- can I get a job subbing at Ver Voice? 'Cos I have to say 'Cabaret' is set in Berlin.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

is that the only factual error you found? (if so you aren't looking hard enough!)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a reason we're not looking hard enough

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

ah shit, i thought that one was deliberate.. although thinking about it i think the jokes work BCZ they're basically accurate...

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Hang on, NOT deliberate.

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It wuz supposed to be a cabaret/chicago half-mismatch thing but I think it fell flat precisely coz it coulda been a real mismatch. bah. striking the right tone is hard.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

FrANZ FERDINAND ARE SO COLL NO OTHER BAND IS AS FORWARD ENOUGH THINKING TOMNAME THEM ELFS AFTER A HISTORIC PEROSN WHO STRTED WW2

― Antoine, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

that was a funny review, sterling

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I totally understand the compulstion to say Glaswegian.

I liked your review too, Sterling. If amateurist and I both like it, you are probably doing something wrong. (I know I've said in the past that I hardly ever read the Village Voice, but that has changed recently, largely thanks to ILM.)

― Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

2nd and 3rd paragraphs found a way to be cute and informative. Plus its shorter than Pitchfork variations on the shtick.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't access it right now. : /

anyone else experience this?

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Sterling has made me laugh!
(I like both those bands)

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Last I heared, the band were named after a racehorse.

Which was named after the duke.

A bit like when you tell your brother cliff and his fist would then tell your lip as he didn't really like you anyway sort of thing.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

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