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Sid's swastika t-shirt, Radio Birdman and their armbands, Keith Moon & Ron Asheton in full uniform, Joy Division/New Order's noms du guerre, Bowie's Thin White Duke, nice Jewish kids The Dictators and their "Master Race Rock" & the Ramones' comic book kraut jokes, Michael Jackson's Stalinesque statuary, etc.

Pop stars' flirtations with overt fascist imagery. Is it:

a) contemptible in all its guises?

b) in-jokes to shock the squares?

c) a clever satire of the facsistic under-pinnings of all youth culture/ pop idolatry?

d) evidence of megalomania?

fritz, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

e) none of the above.

fritz, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

2) all of the above

g, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll go with none of the above as well, but must add that the new Dictators album is available now. It's probably the album of the year.

Dan, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sid: a bit of (b) plus a lot of deliberate self-identification with one of history's major losers.
Bowie: he was coked out of his head.
Michael Jackson: "Who's Hitler? Who's Stalin?"

mark s, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Kylie fans: "Who's Michael Jackson?"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pulp fans: all LOL

Simon, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You don't really believe the premise behind 'c', do you?

dave q, Saturday, 20 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*I* believe the premise behind 'c'. But then I would, wouldn't I?

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 20 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I asked Unity Mitford and she told me that it was aesthetics

Luke, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Leni Riefenstahl is alive and well and directed Hammer's '2 Legit 2 Quit' video. She was also a consultant on Janet Jackson's 'Rhythm Nation'.

We survived 'The Wall' - though the image of Bob Geldof shaving his eyebrows is a pain that lingers - We'll survive this, too.

The current fascist-proppop is counterbalanced nicely by the video efforts of Jewel, REM, Destiny's Child, and company.

For every KISS, there's a Loggins AND a Messina

for every Thin White Duke, there's an A and a B and a B and an A

Foghat, Charlie Daniels, and Lynryd Skynryd formed a bulwark in the 70's against fascist prop: I should know, I'm the guy that yelled 'Free Bird' on the live album.

For every MJ Stalin-esque video, there's Rock With You and the 'Do You Remember the Time' video. So, he's self-neutralizing.

New Order has their nemeses Flock of Seagulls and Duran Duran. And I happen to think their 'Slapping' video is one of the greatest videos .... ever.

So, fear not- the kids are all right.

chaki, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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