What Was Wrong With the 90s?

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because the public demands it.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

1. beck.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

2. Steve Lamacq

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

3. Chris Evans

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

3. anything that lead up to this.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

4. linda perry

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

5. Oasis

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

4. Jools Holland

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

7. anthony keidis

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

8. Friends

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

9. Xfm 104.7

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

10. dj shadow

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

11. Paul Weller

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

12. mo wax

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

11.The Single Guy! Let's nominate IRREDEMABLE shit, really!

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

14. Rupert Murdoch

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

14. Grunge then Post Grunge/ Mid 90s Corporate US Rock

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

the "m" in "ilm" is for "music"

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh Paul Weller, NICE. 15 or something Ocean Colour Scene

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

16. "Parklife"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

16. Every band influenced by Nirvana

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

18. #1 singles off the back of Levis adverts.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

16. "Temper Temper" by Goldie

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

19. eclecticism

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

20. "Crush With Eyeliner"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

21. The Sex Pistols reunion

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

22. mike patton

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

23. Football highlights producers discovering downbeat techno and indie.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

24. Daphne and Celeste

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

24. not enough Merzbow releases

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

24. lisa loeb

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

35. Mike Patton groupies asking if I can get them into his room

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

27. Meredith Brookes

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

29. Mark Sutherland for destroying Melody Maker

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

30. Bis

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

30. the barenaked ladies

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

28 HONESTY IN ROCK AS OPPOSED TO ETC

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

37. Louise Wener's smug face

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

33. the effect will smith's film career had on his musical career

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

32. 4 Non Blondes

― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

35. David Bowie does drum and bass.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

38. Oasis fans' Lennon worship

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

38. everything but the girls does drum and bass

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

39. derek bailey does drum and bass

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

40. Stewart in Beavis & Butthead

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

42. The Bluetones "save Britpop"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

43. electronic music made by english whtie people with beards

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

44. Cast and Kula Shaker

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i've got a beard. my wife likes insists.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

45. NME and steve sutherland

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

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― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

117. Superclubs.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

118. sebadoh!

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

119. tortoise & all post-slint projects (& the idea of music as "projects")

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

120. Puff Daddy/Suge Knight internecine warfare bollox.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

121. steve albini

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

number XXX. mobile phone ringtone charts. the scourge of the modern printed press - combining 2 aspects of the modern world that i really detest, lists and nasty fucking ringtones (whats wrong with a simple "beep beep" rather than some sh*te polywhatsit earsplitting take on love missile f1-11)

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Candlebox.

― mike a, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

122. Roxette & Ace of Base.
123. Michael Bolton & Celine Dion.
124. The death of the "climber" in the UK singles chart.
125. The new insignificance of the UK #1 single (B*Witched were, in this respect, pivotal. Oh yes.)

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

122. 10,000 zines with nothing but music reviews.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

damn right kerry. those Zines are the absolute b*stards. m.e/ireallylovemusic

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

oops, make that 126, sorry, Mark.

126.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

127. Flea-inspired Seinfeld-sounding bass players

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

128. Hippie rock revival

― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

129. The Backstreet Boys
130. Pavement

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

131. fucking LILITH FAIR

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

132. Paul Oakenfield/Andy Weatherall/Danny Rampling remixes

― holojames (holojames), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Re 122: I never had anything against music review zines per se. In the pre-Internet days, they were the best way to discover new music. Popwatch, Conflict, Forced Exposure, etc. were all excellent. Maybe I'm just biased because I did a zine that included lots of music reviews.

But I think we can all agree that "10,000 zines with nothing but LAME music reviews" were a big problem.

― mike a, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

133. fuck this list

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe I'm just biased because I did a zine that included lots of music reviews.

Assuming your zine was Writers Block/Caught In Flux, it was one of the best ones around. I hope you finish putting them on the net someday!

― dlp9001, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

134. tricky's precipitous decline

― rgeary (rgeary), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Mike - absolutely. I mean, I wouldn't know how many bad music zines there were if I didn't read loads of them to begin with.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

135. Illbient

― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

136. Isolationism

― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

137. "jazz satellites"

― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

138. Kirk Degiorgio

― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Isolationism

Hey! (Though I agree about 138.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey jerko, I am down with Isolationism! :)

139. The death of obscure hardcopy xerox culture.

― The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

mt and ned in mindmeld shockah!

― The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

140. TRANCE!

― The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

141. Software synthesis and laptop music.

― The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

142. Pearl Jam

― The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

143. Kennedy hosting Alternative Nation on MTV

― The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I was referring to the "codification" as a "movement", not the compilation of the same name (which I like very much)(it has one of APhex Twin's best tracks!)(but Kevin Martin's DJ Spooky-esque psuedo-intellectual liner notes are dud)

― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

agreed!

― The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

143: Shoegazing died, and in its place sprung...Coldplay.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

*weeps copious tears at this realization*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

mt and ned in mindmeld shockah!

We already had Eric A in common, from there the rest was obvious.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

143. Kennedy hosting Alternative Nation on MTV

Who would you have rather had hosting Alternative Nation? Downtown Julie Brown? Dan Cortez? I'd vote for the Irish dude with the crazy spiky hair from Real World, I think.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Who would you have rather had hosting Alternative Nation?

Nobody, and just simply show the videos?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned, and don't forget that we both know that Pearl by Chapterhouse is completely dope.

― The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I would have preferred it if the concept of "alternative nation" never existed.

also:

144: 120 minutes becoming more commerical and less weird and English.

― The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

iow TS Matt Pinfeild vs. Dave Kendall

145. Matt Pinfield or whatever that fat bald fucker's name was.

― The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

146. Power Divas

regards,

REB

― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:10 (twenty-two years ago)

The entire decade failed to live up to Screamadelica!!!

― Kim Tortoise, Thursday, 25 March 2004 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

.....and that will be 147

― Kim Tortoise, Thursday, 25 March 2004 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

148. EVERYTHING about MTV during the 1990s with the exception of amp and Beavis and Butthead (this includes Unplugged, Jesse Camp, Singled Out, Pauly Shore, The Real World, The Road Rules, AND stupid fucking Alternative Nation horseshit)

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

149. the fact that commercials on MTV started to look a hell of a lot more like MTV videos than the actual MTV videos.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Alternative Nation is really good now (no presenter for starters)

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

150. freelance music reviewers (yes, we all know who we are - maybe the pay is awful for a reason).

*on second thought, maybe this isn't something wrong with the 90's, because it let's us all move back home and get reacquainted with our parents...

― Yassa, Friday, 26 March 2004 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

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