Madvillainy. There are bits and pieces from other threads, but now that this is officially out, let's talk!

Use a chatroom...

then, sadly, he drowns after drinking a mouthful of piss and dies. and it's not even the best part of the record!

But back to Madvillainy.

So is Lil Kim on it?

x-post...wtf?? lil kim is on it???

oh yeah, and North Carolina Really Is The Best Place In The World!

It's incredible.

Give me a break.

But it has really grown on me, and I think it works in a totally different way than say Vik Vaughn or Doomsday. This is sort of like late night doom--it IS more mellow, less hyper, but the rhymes work surprising well in that conext, and some of the tracks are just brilliant, especially ALLCAPS and Raid.

And I am going to have to agree with Rollie that this one was one of the most hotly anticipated in a long while. Two of the biggest names in underground rap, combined with the endless delays and rumors, definitely had people licking their chops.

they're great in context...truss me.

Contrast that with the original phrase in question:

"Madvillainy, one of the most anticipated releases in underground rap history"

Which is it?

Obviously he may be embellishing but its not that fucking ridiculous to claim that this was a highly anticipated album. In fact, he's not embellishing; it is ONE, that's ONE of the most anticipated releases in underground hip-hop history.

People are fucking nitpicking bitches sometimes.

HEY NICK, WHAT'S REALLY GOOD

I am curious, though - people that like this, what exactly do you hear in it that I don't?

Thats what I wrote about it when I first heard it. On some internerd critique shit.

but im sure his 15 will dwarf the 5 people at phantom planet.

Where is this part of the album? I must have missed it.

Rollie Pemberton
(9.4/10)

Sasha F-J

Sam Chennault

...its a great album because its wonderful to listen to. It makes me happy. It is joyous, clever, and unique.

But I don't think its fair to suggest that Madvillian's impact is being overrated cuz of a poor underground hip-hop climate. On its own, it is my favorite album of the year, and I've listened to it more than any other release (Although Ghostface is in competition). I think its an amazing accomplishment period.

So far, Madvillain's the top album of the year. And being someone who listens to a lot of boring underground rap releases, I'd say it's more attributed to the album's own merits. I find that most future classics transcend the year they come out in. When I listen to Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, it doesn't feel like a mid-90s album, it just exists as its own entity.

Adam, there's nothing wrong with not liking Doom. Considering the music you like, I don't think you strike me as someone big on subtlety or the technical elements of rap. this also explains why the nerdier heads are frothing over the record, while the more trad-rap heads are still spinning the instrumental to "It's All Real" by Pitch Black. I appreciate shit like changing a rhyme scheme mid-couplet or really intricate rhyme schemes. I dunno, it's all personal preference.

Ghostface disappointed me, djdee. I'm Tony Starks superfan over here, but it didn't really kill me. A lot better than BW, not in the same room as SC, better than a lot of things, might barely make it into my year-end top ten. An album with songs like "It's Over", "Love", "Ghostface" and "Tooken Back" doesn't quite deserve the hype it's getting.

"Considering the music you like, I don't think you strike me as someone big on subtlety or the technical elements of rap."

"this also explains why the nerdier heads are frothing over the record, while the more trad-rap heads are still spinning the instrumental to "It's All Real" by Pitch Black."

I think those songs are great! ESPECIALLY "Tooken Back". If there's on weak track its "Ghostface" and that's just cuz the beat doesn't quite fit in and there's not as much memorable about it.

Alex in SF keeps a watchful eye on the hip-hop heads.

No shit! Like I said it's just one way to CHARACTERIZE the music, not DEFINE it.

maybe leave it there. it's funny, i think madvillain is a bit lacking compared to Vik Vaughn, and I even prefer BPW over Pretty Toney. I think I'm going through a bit of a malaise in hip hop appreciation.

I am listening to All Natural a lot though...anyone heard 'em? Funnily, they're kind of conventional underground hip hop.

http://www.stonesthrow.com/news/_/040503/index.html

Was fucking around with my own top 10 list tonight while bored at work and I stuck Pretty Toney at #1 - kinda liked the looks of it, to be honest, I seriously can't stop listening to this album, though granted I have felt the same way earlier in the year about Madvillain and Kanye.

Are these guys from New Zealand or something or did I misunderstand the start of the thread? (I haven't read the whole thing.)

i like doom.

i like madlib.

but this really bores me for some reason.

don't get all the ink spilled.

this album still hot

^bang on^

uh

yup, still hot

this is generally good imo, but def don't get the classic talk

Mos Def covers "Rainbows" with a brass band!!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AYNQCKU84Y

wtf

I've read most of the reviews on this disc. I bought it. I like it. I've now read this thread. But I don't understand what's so cutting-edge and unique about this disc.

Maybe I don't listen to enough rap or underground rap or commerical hip-hop to figure it out myself (and yes, maybe I'm just dumb).

this is definitely one of my top three rap rekkids of the decade. i like doom and madlib a helluva lot and they both do their best work or close to on this record. i can't imagine it ever not sounding fresh.

has doom put anything out recently? he released like 5 albums in a year but since then...

mmm...food got reissued, but nothign else since dangerdoom i don't think

I haven't listened to madvillainy in a couple years but I used to listen to it a hell of a lot. I think one's perception of it probably depends on how much doom you've heard--his thing is enjoyable but pretty limited (between this and VV I'm pretty done with him). Madlib is the star here. The tracks are so deep and immersive; this is easily one of my favorite headphones records ever.

great, great, great record. top 5 of 2005.

Tripping off the beat kinda, dripping off the meat grinder, heat niner, pimping, stripping, soft street minor

nasty bassline on that song

I like this album still .... but between dangerdoom and the second quas album I'm kinda done with both of these guys

^^^Yeah basically

i am like the only actual head on earth who liked dangerdoom

^ sad

i thought the dangerdoom joint w/ talib was dope... heard it on a statik selektah mix

i am like the only actual head on earth who liked dangerdoom

there's a few good tracks. the skits are sooo bad. I gues it's weird of me to write off Doom because of that record since his lyrics aren't really the main problem I had with it ... but I didn't really like MM Food either though.

I am not a head at all, so that's prolley why this is like my fifth favourite album of all time...

DangerDoom is kind of weird because it sounds great on first listen then successively less and less defensible with each spin.

i actually think MF Doom's lyrics are almost better on DangerDoom than Madvillainy, but...the trippy way Doom can build pure mood out of random snippets & phrases, purely by cadence and rhyme, along with Madlib's stream-of-consciousness beats, makes it by far my favorite album of the decade...Danger Doom makess too much literal sense for its own good.

head on straight mask on crooked
exit stage left with the cash gone took it

yeah the talib was like my favorite shit in fall 05 with the breakfast cereal and whatnot

i'd never really paid attention to talib before that and was pissed when the rest of his shit wasn't as fun

this is easily one of my favorite headphones records ever.

-- call all destroyer,

seconded!

Do not stand still
Both show skills
Close but no crills
Toast fo' po' ills
Post no bills
Coast to coast
Joe Schmoe flows ill
Go Chill
Not supposed to overdose
No-Doz pills

second verse of 'accordion'

In living, the true gods
Givin' y'all nothing but the lick like two broads
Got more lyrics than the church got 'Ooh Lords'
And he hold the mic and your attention like two swords
Or even one with two blades on it
Hey you, don't touch the mic like it's AIDS on it

Do it like the headspin to robot to boogaloo
Took a few minute to convince the average bugaboo

Wasn't there an ILM thread once where everyone made up fake Doom verses?

Last wish, I wish I had two more wishes
And I wish they fix the door to the matrix, it's mad glitches
Spit so many verses sometimes my jaw twitches
One thing this party could use is more...............booze

the koushik remix of 'strange ways' is dark & hot as fuck