Miles Davis - Aura: Classic or Dud?

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So I think this is great, the delicate modernist orchestral bits, the rich ambient synth textures, the subtle processing of Miles' trumpet, the ultra-bombastic moments that come up, the occasional Prince/Michael Jackson beats, the OTT 80s shred guitar sound so glossed out and produced that it actually turns into ambient wash at one point. My friend Heather just hates it though.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 25 March 2004 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the one with the colors theme, right? Haven't listened to it for awhile. Remembered liking some of it, but that era of production style is very unappealing to me. Everything is too clean and the synths sound cheesy.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 25 March 2004 06:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm listening to Tutu right now, and I like it just as much (or maybe more) than Aura.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 25 March 2004 07:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Tutu's absolutely fantastic, the first Miles album I ever bought and still one of my absolute faves!

I probably haven't listened to Aura for best part of 20 years (i.e. pretty much since it came out) and I probably should again to reappraise it however my abiding memory is that it's just a lot of aimless pointless self-indulgent noodling.

The concept IIRC was that it was supposed to be about the colours in Miles' aura (although, since it includes all the colours of the rainbow anyway, I'm inclined to believe that's a load of old baloney) using a sequence of notes that were supposedly somehow derived from the letters M,I,L,E,S,D,A,V,I, and, (perhaps predictably) S....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 25 March 2004 09:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Neither classic nor dud. I've been listening to it a lot lately ("a lot" meaning, in this case, more than five times all the way through in 14 days), for professional reasons, and it's got its good and bad points. Miles plays pretty well (though he's better on You're Under Arrest and the way-underrated Decoy), and the backing band (more of a big band than an orchestra, really) is solid. The tracks where Miles doesn't play are just all right. Overall the thing has that movie-soundtrack feel where it swells gently and then goes back to a low hum for long stretches, which I don't like. I'd probably like this more if it was huge and stomping, like a Cecil Taylor big-band thing (albeit much more melodic, obviously). But it's pretty good. It would have been better if the guitars were even more screamingly Van Halen-esque.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 25 March 2004 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't heard his other 80s albums but I've been enjoying this one the times I listened. I actually find the ambient Miles-less parts to be some of the most interesting bits.

I wonder if people have different standards for jazz/avant/'art' artists and for pop artists when it comes to production. I've never seen anyone criticize Prince or U2 or Kate Bush for using cheesy 80s production but it seems that jazz or improv artists are always attacked for going that way even if they don't go as far. (I've seen similar criticisms on this board for Sharrock's Highlife and Metheny's Zero Tolerance for Silence). I usually find it more interesting and less potentially off-putting when this type of glossy overproduction is used in an improv or electronic art music context, I think partly because there tends to be more exploration of the sonic possibilities offered by that production aesthetic. Maybe even more also because it seems like the shiny pop aesthetic is being subverted. Maybe also just because it helps offer a sort of pop reference point as a way in.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 26 March 2004 05:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I think partly because there tends to be more exploration of the sonic possibilities offered by that production aesthetic.

I think that's why I find it MORE unappealing in jazz than 80s pop. Some possibilities are best left unexplored.

oops (Oops), Friday, 26 March 2004 06:16 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a lot of good writing and good playing on this album which can so easily be overlooked because of the production values and "sound" of some '80s jazz. The sound of this album is aligned to the times as much as that of Miles Ahead or Bitches Brew - don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Peter O'Brien, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It is, you're very right, but fuck me the 80s sheen is horrid horrid horrid.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Lately my affection for the 80s albums has really been building. Decoy is fucking great, and so is Tutu of course. And you know what? Take away the three tracks with vocals, and Doo-Bop is a pretty killer six-song EP.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

sixteen years pass...

With the Miles reissue and ECM topics seeing some revival action lately, I thought it would be interesting to see if there was any big reevaluation of this one.

For me, I normally don't think 80s Miles is my bag at all, but I've held on to my CD of Aura. I don't play it hardly ever, but whenever I do go back to it, I always really enjoy it - especially the parts that I would refer to as "dark ambient." Very soundtracky and really good.

However, it is a very long album. Perhaps that's why I don't listen to it very often; once every year or so is enough, I suppose.

Thoughts?

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 3 May 2020 17:26 (five years ago)

I'm fond of it -- one of my nighttime writing albums.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 May 2020 18:05 (five years ago)

four years pass...

Listening to this for the first time. Some of the textures are still pretty brutal (although I guess sounding like a Sega Genesis game soundtrack has its own appeal), but after enough years of vaporwave and internet-era ambient, a lot of it has come around to sounding contemporary again, lol. And Miles sounds great.

'Red' fittingly sounds like it could be an '80s King Crimson track.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 20:43 (eleven months ago)

I wrote about it a few years ago.

Davis’s playing in 1984 and 1985 was very different from what it had been in previous eras. He’d passed through the bebop of the 1940s and the dispassionate, cool virtuosity of the 1950s; returned to the blues in the early 1960s and exploded song form in the second half of that decade. Then, when he began to surround himself with electric instruments in 1969, his style became fiercer, stabbing through a wall of organs and guitars; this style lasted until his disappearance in 1975. When he returned in the ’80s, his music was built on funk and rock grooves, and his phrases were appropriately sparse, anchored in the blues but also prone to digression. His solos mirrored his onstage behavior: wandering around, gaze fixed on the floor. This is the zone he’s in on Aura. He drifts in and out, seeming unmoored at times, muted but pushing hard, playing long phrases that roll out like a ball of yarn tossed down a hallway. He’s listening to what the ensemble is doing, but feels no obligation to collaborate with them. They’re not his band; they’re the scenery he’s performing in front of.

It’s not hard for me to understand why critics responded favorably to Aura when it was released. It was a Big Gesture, a piece written to honor Davis that he’d chosen to record, in the process proving that he could be flattered, that he cared what other people thought. And if you didn’t like the slick, poppy jazz-funk he was recording on albums like Decoy and You’re Under Arrest, never mind the ice cold cybernetic exercises of Tutu, this almost-big-band suite probably felt like a “return to real music.” But to me, it’s a mere curiosity. Compositionally it’s just interesting enough to keep me listening while it’s on, but the various elements — jazz-funk, semi-classical orchestration, quiet ballad sections — never add up to a single big thing. It feels like a collection of ideas stapled together and given a collective title. And I’ll listen to Decoy and You’re Under Arrest and Tutu and Amandla a hundred more times before I’ll come back to Aura.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 20:53 (eleven months ago)

You're right, it does seem surprising that he agreed to it. Btw what got me to listen was this Guardian interview (from after it was recorded but before it came out) that popped up on social media: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/nov/06/miles-davis-interview-rocks-backpages

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 21:07 (eleven months ago)

Weird url, lol

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 21:08 (eleven months ago)

I appreciated Aura more when I hadn't heard the other '80s work. I play Star People most these days.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 21:09 (eleven months ago)

I don't think of Aura as being especially extreme aesthetically, for this era of miles ... almost a bit conservative

certainly Tutu (songs like "Splatch") and Amandla feel more radical

ok (D-40), Thursday, 24 April 2025 00:07 (eleven months ago)


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