With Three Months Down, My Favorite Records of the Year So Far

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In no particular order (except, um, alphabetical more or less):

albums
Allegrijes Y Rebjujos *Disco Allegrijes,*
Allegrijes Y Rebjujos *Disco Rebujo,*
Archimides Badkar *Tre*,
Kenny Chesney *When the Sun Goes Down*
Couch Flambeau *Did a Power Slide in the Taco Stand,*
Crime in Choir *The Hoop*
Death Comet Crew *This is Riphop,*
Ghost, *Hypnotic Underworld*
Girl, *My Number*
Living Things *Black Skies in Broad Daylight*
Mr. Wonka!?, *Codeine Rock*
Red Swan *After the Barn Goes,*
Julie Roberts, (so-far-untitled advance CD)
Arthur Russell *The World of Arthur Russell,*
Kanye West *College Dropout,*
Winterhawk *Wind From the Sun,*
*The King of Crunk & BME Recordings Present Lil Scrappy & Trillville*
*Monster Records: The Seventies Sampler*,
*Princess Nicotine,*
*Radio Morocco,*
*The Third Unheard: Connecticut HipHop 1979-1983,*

singles (at least I THINK these are all singles):

Big and Rich "Wild West Show,"
Kenny Chesney featuring Uncle Kracker "When the Sun Goes Down"
Eamon "F*ck It",
Frankee "F.U.R.B.,"
R. Kelly, "Happy People"
Last Days of May "The First 7 Billion Miles"
Lil Scrappy "F.I.L.A."
Lil Scrappy featuring Lil Jon "Head Bussa"
Teena Marie, "Still in Love"
Martina McBride "This One's for the Girls,"
Measles Mumps Rubella "Fountain of Youth,"
Red Swan "What Really Happened at Rose Lake"
Julie Roberts "Break Down Here"
Britney Spears "Toxic,"
Skye Sweetnam "Number One,"
Skye Sweetnam "Billy S.",
Trillville featuring Lil Jon "Neva Eva"
Ying Yang Twins featuring Lil Jon "Salt Shaker,"


chuck, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Would you recommend the "Sampler" over the individual Monster issues? You made those Survivor and Winterhawk records sound pretty goddamn great.

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

What are they Allegrijes Y Rebjujos records like?

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never heard of a single one of those albums.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

haha

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

snrub why are you always so keen to flaunt your ignorance?

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Because I don't mind it that people think I'm a dumbass (because I am!)

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Snrub, I've only heard of Kanye and Arthur Russell. I seem to remember Chuck's list from last year being much longer, but I might be confusing it with one of his other lists.

Nick H (Nick H), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The Winterhawk is my favorite one of the individual Monster reissues, I think, but yeah, start with the sampler (though it doesn't have any excellent facial hair photos, sadly!), because it gets some of the best songs by all those bands plus, um, it comes with Martin Popoff's excellent book attached to it! The Allegrijes Y Rebjujos albums seem to have something to do with some kind of Mexican kiddies TV show I've never heard of, and they have lots of accordions and disco beats and ghost noises and both boys and girls singing in very high voices and they're very very catchy in an old-school Xuxa type way.

chuck, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

As for the list being shorter than all the ones I was posting last year, um, I made a New Year's Resolution to be more selective and less obsessive compulsive, I guess. (Which is partially to say that these aren't ALL the records I've like this year. Only my favorites.)

chuck, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

haha - oh, ok! so that's the cd that comes with the Popoff book (which I still haven't ordered yet)(but will eventually).

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Bret Michaels goes country for new album

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

are all the ex-hardcore kidz gonna toss their Gang Of 4 albums out the window when they hear that Crime In Choir record and get all Gentle Giant on my ass? If so, cool! I'm a sucker for that Trans Am drum sound on an indieprog album.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 25 March 2004 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

*The Third Unheard: Connecticut HipHop 1979-1983,*

what is this? I am intrigued by the idea of people doing Pebbles-style comps for old school rap.

Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Thursday, 25 March 2004 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Yo Daniel:

http://www.stonesthrow.com/3rd/

11-year-old (in 1981 or so) Pookie Blow rules, trust me...And so does the ventrioliquist guy doing the rap duet with his dummy!

chuck, Thursday, 25 March 2004 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

!

That's a vision. (Also, I knew this would be Chuck's list from the subject line alone = ONE OF US.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Kenny Chesney *When the Sun Goes Down*

ummm....

jon wall, Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

hey Chuck, would you recommending checking out the Kanye album to someone who didn't really enjoy "Through The Wire" or "Slow Jamz" much? Or are those songs indicative enough that one shouldn't bother?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

did you like Princess Nicotine and Radio Morocco better than the other recent sublime frequencies reissues for some reason or are those the only ones you've heard?

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

similarly is death comet crew better than the solo rammellzee or is it the only thing you've heard?

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Jon: Kenny Chesney's album could wind up being my favorite album of the year. We'll see...

Anthony: Yes. I'd say don't let not absolutely loving those songs prevent you from checking out the album; if you HATE them, though, maybe hold off. You'll notice I didn't list those among my favorite singles. If you hear "We Don't Care" and don't like THAT, though, don't buy the CD. (I got my copy for ten bucks in Quakertown, PA, by the way.)

Vahid: I've heard all of those Sublime Frequencies compilations, I think. I like the new batch of four way more than the batch that came out late last year (I can never make it through the DVDs, actually), but Nicotine and Morocco are the ones I keep returning to, for some reason. Maybe they're just weirder, or more beautiful? I dunno...

And Death Comet Crew's album is better than the new Rammelzee album (which I do like, just not as much), though nothing on it is as great as "Beat Bop." But I've been liking some of that Death Comet Crew stuff ever since 1984, when I bought at "At the Marble Bar" EP. Haven't decided whether it's as good as the Gettovetts album yet, though.

chuck, Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

11-year-old (in 1981 or so) Pookie Blow rules, trust me...And so does the ventrioliquist guy doing the rap duet with his dummy!

woa

Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

re: sublime frequencies

of the three mideast ones i definitely like morocco best if only because it's the least cut-up. they actually let songs play out, etc. and less of that "impressionistic" field recording nonsense that plagued the syria disc.

all four of the indonesian discs seemed about comparable to me. slight edge to the radio java disc but i've listened to the new one the least.

i'm sad to hear there's nothing as great as "beat bop" but that was really hope against hope, i guess.

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

...And so does the ventrioliquist guy doing the rap duet with his dummy!

Funny thing about this is that there's also a rapper-and-his-dummy song on the Sugarhill box set ("Check it Out" by Wayne and Charlie the Rapping Dummy).

don davies, Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

That sounds great, sure, but how can I be sure that his lips aren't moving on the record?

Scott, Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't heard any of these besides the Kanye album either!

Kanye and Cee-Lo's albums are the only of my favorite albums that have come out so far this year that I can listen to like EVERY DAY and still love them. There's others I love (Air, John Frusciante, Fantomas, Gift of Gab in partic), but those two are so fucking great. I really want to hear a Kanye-produced Cee-Lo track so fucking bad.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Seriously though, to have heard so much music you must have to listen to it morning, noon, and night, with just an hour or so of silence at some point during the day. Is that how you do it Chuck?

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 26 March 2004 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I play music at work, and if I'm driving a car (only every other weekend), and when I'm driking coffee and reading the newspaper in the morning, and after I get home half-drunk at night until I decide to go to bed (unless the TV is on). But not when I'm out (often hearing other music I like less!), or when I'm watching TV, or when I'm sleeping, or when I'm in editorial meetings, or when I'm at my kid's hockey game or war protests or the movies or whatever. So I dunno - Is that a lot of time, or what? It really doesn't SEEM like a lot to me, honest! (I don't own an IPOD or CD Walkman, so unlike a lot of people many of whom don't write about music for a living, I don't even listen to music on the subway or when I'm walking to work!)

chuck, Friday, 26 March 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

This is sorta in a v. general preferential order. The bottom half are things I enjoyed initially. They very well may drop off the list altogether (or, rarely, rise) in the next couple months.

1. Madvillain - Madvillainy
2. Kanye West - College Dropout
3. Arthur Russell - The World of Arthur Russell
4. Arthur Russell - Calling out of Context
5. David Banner - Baptized in Dirty Water
6. Junior Boys - Last Exit
7. Wiley - Treadin' on Thin Ice
8. Murs - 3:16
9. Superpitcher - Here Comes Love
10. Young Gunz - Tough Love
11. Jay-Z - The Grey Album
12. Cee Lo - Cee Lo Green is the Soul Machine
13. TV on the Radio - Desperate Youth, Bloodthirsty Babes
14. Three 6 Mafia - Da Unbreakables (Screwed and Chopped)
15. Mission of Burma - OnOFFOn
16. N*E*R*D - Fly or Die
17. Savath and Savalas - Apropt'a
18. Stereolab - Margerine Eclipse
19. Twista - Kamikaze
20. Probot - Probot
21. GM Grimm - Digital Tears
22. Air - Talkie Walkie
23. Girls Aloud - Sound of the Underground

djdee2005, Saturday, 27 March 2004 09:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Of the previous list, the ones below bored me. (One of these days I promise I'll finally put on that damn Air CD, which I expect will do the same if their previous few are any indication; ditto Probot if most of Dave Grohl's -- and Sepultura's and Corrosion of Conformity's etc. - -career is any indication, and NERD if the single and their previous album is any indication, and Twista and Murs and Stereolab if most of what I've heard by them before is any indication):

1. Madvillain - Madvillainy ("interesting" in a really tedious way...
On second thought, not that intersting. I hate concept records!!)
4. Arthur Russell - Calling out of Context (it was, um, listenable,
I suppose. He was always way more boring in non-song mode, though)
6. Junior Boys - Last Exit (their EPs, anyway) (at least the second
one; the first one didn't COMPLETELY go in one ear out the other)
12. Cee Lo - Cee Lo Green is the Soul Machine (neo-soul. "tasteful.")
13. TV on the Radio - Desperate Youth, Bloodthirsty Babes (worst
record I've heard this year, no contest)
17. Savath and Savalas - Apropt'a (though I actually liked their EP
from a couple years ago okay. This one is just an exotica move,
though, right? Kitsch bosa nova, with "real instruments" and
stuff?? So: even more a snoozer than his Prefuse stuff!)


chuck, Monday, 29 March 2004 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

13. TV on the Radio - Desperate Youth, Bloodthirsty Babes (worst
record I've heard this year, no contest)

Now this is saying something! The separate thread on them turned up plenty of defenders; the only song I heard was pretty shrugworthy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

My favorites so far:

1. Twista
2. Cee-Lo (my favorites tend to be the least 'tasteful' and most hip-hop tracks, i.e. I'll Be Around, Scrap Metal, Glockapella, but there is some beautiful stuff on the rest too)
3. Kanye
4. Bad Plus (I'm not quite as excited about it as I was at first, but I still love the band and a couple of the tunes are as good as anything they've done)
5. Squarepusher (still haven't gotten to listen to it that much yet)
6. Stooges Brass Band "It's About Time" (y'all don't know)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 March 2004 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

4. Bad Plus (I'm not quite as excited about it as I was at first, but I still love the band and a couple of the tunes are as good as anything they've done)

haven't heard this yet but i have high hopes for these guys. these are the vistas is a really exciting record; i love hearing groups that just obviously LOVE music. though i'm a bit nervous about the choice of iron man as a cover this time, after the three covers on the last record were really its high points. (that and "everywhere you turn")

doing some ornette is always a good idea though.

rgeary (rgeary), Monday, 29 March 2004 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, the covers aren't emphasized as much on this record, but Iron Man is brilliant. I definitely agree that my favorite thing about them (and about seeing Dave King play with anyone) is the sense of sometimes manic FUN that they exude, which is unfortunately rare in jazz.

My main problem with the record is that some of the originals don't seem to be as memorable or strong melodically (and melody is so important for this band), but like I said some are fantastic (like And Here We Test Our Powers of Observation). I definitely want to spend some more time with it.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 March 2004 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

chuck -
Madvillain is anything but boring! I think you'd have a pt. with the other criticisms to some degree or another (the TV on the Radio album doesn't honestly hold my attention as it did the first time. I think I was moved more by the fact that I had some preconcieved assumptions of what it was gonna sound like).

Calling out of Context and Madvillain are amazing though...Madvillain is one of the best hip-hop albums I've heard in ages. Better than Trap Muzik, Non-Prophets, Mississippi, Black Album, Viktor Vaughn (my favorite hip-hop albums from last year).

I think you are partly right about Cee Lo. But partly wrong. There are definitely some strong tracks on it.

re: Junior Boys. High Come Down is amazing.

djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Also Lil Flip would make my list at this pt. somewhere in the top 10.

djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

New:

1. Noxagt The Iron Point Load
2. cLOUDDEAD Ten Mush
3. Mark Gergis/Porest I Remember Syria Sublime Frequencies

Reissue/Archival

1. Arthur Russell Calling Out Of Context Audika
2. Henry Flynt and the Insurrections I Don't Wanna Locust
3. The Scientists Pissed On Another Planet Sympathy

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't understand the MF Doom or Quasimoto CDs I've heard, either, so maybe the Madvillain thing is just me; I get the idea there's, um, complex arsty poetry or something there, but who gives a shit when there's no hooks and you have to listen under a microscope to get to where all the cleverness is. Junior Boys I might like if their singer wasn't such a shrinking violet; as is (like TV on the Radio, only not as much I guess) they remind me way too much of what I hated about indie rock for all those years. *Calling Out of Context,* though, I'm really convinced people just like it because it's Russell. I've been a fan of the guy for forever (I own lots of *The World Of* on old vinyl 12-inches, and still can't understand why it leaves his best song, "Kiss Me Again" by Dinosaur, off; "Clean On Your Bean #5" by Dinosaur L would have been cool, too), but I wish I knew what people were hearing in his instrumental stuff. Which is PLEASANT, I guess; I mean, it sounds as relaxing while I'm falling asleep as lots of other stuff this year. But are people really as excited by it as they act like they are? And if so, why? (I didn't like *World of Echo* much, either, by the way - at least for the two months I owned it in 1986.)

Band whose new album I kinda WISH I liked: The Mountain Goats, just because John Darnielle sounds like such a smart and nice guy on this board. A couple songs sorta hold my attention for the duration I guess (the one where somebody gets shot, the one where he tells us to get in the goddam car, the one with the sort of sea chantey Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald melody), but the songs never draw me in because (despite nifty breaking glass sounds here and there), there's never half enough MUSIC in them. It all sounds like SONGWRITING DEMOS to me. So maybe John should get some death metal or crunk band to cover them? I dunno... But lotsa smart people I know disagree with me (see: lead review in this week's *Voice, etc). So again, maybe it's just me.

chuck, Monday, 29 March 2004 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

>is the sense of sometimes manic FUN that they [Bad Plus] exude, which is unfortunately rare in jazz.

See, I think there's as much fun in jazz as any other kind of music ("manic" is a judgement call), but I think the Bad Plus guys agree with you, or think they should. So, much of the time they're about "FUN," thrown in your face. Which is no fun. The cover tunes are better tunes than their own tunes. But that isn't exactly a fun thing, either.

Dock Miles (Dock Miles), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

chuck: they couldn't get rights to "Kiss Me Again" or "Tell You Today". Since they put "Clean on your Bean" on the NY Noise comp, they prob'ly didn't want to repeat. CooC isn't instrumental though (past the first song).

Beta (abeta), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm...It FEELS instrumental (hey, I was falling asleep at the time, remember, so what do I know?); I dunno, maybe the vocals are just way more amorphous than in "Let's Go Swimming" or Clean on Your Bean" or whatever?? Maybe they just don't work as hooks as much, or something like that? As Junior Boys fans might have gathered, I am not an amorphous vocal fan (though I can't hate them THAT much, if I like Arthur at all, right?). But I'll try to play *COC* again; maybe I'm wrong about it. (Seems kinda lame, though, to leave that one track off of somebody's best-of CD just because it's on some COMPILATION... which, uh, there's a good chance many of the people who buy this Arthur Russell record might not ALSO want to buy, right? What a gyp!)

chuck, Monday, 29 March 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I am not an amorphous vocal fan (though I can't hate them THAT much, if I like Arthur at all, right?

Are his vocals amorphous? His voice seems to really gently but effective cut right through a song.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

(Chuck -- which of that list is um, you know, rock music?)

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

See, I think there's as much fun in jazz as any other kind of music ("manic" is a judgement call), but I think the Bad Plus guys agree with you, or think they should. So, much of the time they're about "FUN," thrown in your face. Which is no fun. The cover tunes are better tunes than their own tunes. But that isn't exactly a fun thing, either.

I can see how feeling like you're being beaten over the head by them would be a turn off, but part the charm for me is that they can clearly be over the top and obnoxious at times. I've heard SO MUCH jazz that is playful and polished and great and all, but it's nice to hear something that's different from everything else and so confident in it. For me, it actually is fun and is in a happy area far away from tasteful and stopping just short of tasteless.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"(Chuck -- which of that list is um, you know, rock music?) "

Kenny Chesney *When the Sun Goes Down* (if Petty/Mellencamp/Buffet
counts)
Crime in Choir *The Hoop* (if Gentle Giant count)
Ghost, *Hypnotic Underworld* (if Amon Duul count)
Girl, *My Number*
Living Things *Black Skies in Broad Daylight*
Mr. Wonka!?, *Codeine Rock* (if screwed and chopped Foghat counts)
Red Swan *After the Barn Goes,*
Winterhawk *Wind From the Sun,*
*Monster Records: The Seventies Sampler*,

singles:

Last Days of May "The First 7 Billion Miles" (if 40 minutes of
instrumental Hawkwind counts)
Red Swan "What Really Happened at Rose Lake"
Skye Sweetnam "Number One" and "Billy S." (if Scandal count)

chuck, Monday, 29 March 2004 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like DOOM cuz of his "artsy" lyrics, I like his lyrics because he raps with a completely unique style, not just the way he spits but the LYRICAL aspects of it, yet never comes off as pretentious to me.

I started to write more, but realized I'm going to write an entire review of the album (for my own benefit) and I'll post it here when I finish so you can understand what exactly it is I love about this album...trust me, its not just some intellectual jizzing over his "artsy" lyrics.

djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

>I can see how feeling like you're being beaten over the head by them would be a turn off, but part the charm for me is that they can clearly be over the top and obnoxious at times.

I don't feel the least battered by the Bad Plus (wish I did) and the only thing obnoxious is the nudge-nudge wink-wink insistence about how wild and wacky they are. I get blah-obvious and kitschy, not over-the-top. If only they really were tasteless.

Dock Miles (Dock Miles), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

allow me to third the "TVOTR = dud" contingent

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't feel passionate enough about their music to argue w/ you.

djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

TV on the Radio have to be the most hookless, sexless, grooveless, tuneless, singerless, songless piece of shit emperor's new clothes to hit new york since i got this job. hell, if i wasn't so lazy these days, and if i was an angry young man like in my younger freelance days, i'd give em a cover story and say so, for 3000 words or so!

(then again, i haven't heard that band cocorosie yet. so who knows?)

chuck, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

> Frankee "F.U.R.B.,"

Chuck,

Do you really think this is a good record on its own terms, or are you just pleased to see someone, anyone, carrying on the storied tradition of the "answer record"? I wanted to find something interesting or redeeming in "F.U.R.B." -- but "your sex is wack" just doesn't cut it.

Joseph McCombs, Monday, 29 March 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Joseph - I kinda agree, to be honest. Judging from her picture on the excellently artworked cover of the CD single (which I bought!), Frankee should have this totally badass tuff chick voice like Gillette or Hesta Prynn from Northen State! She is no Real Roxanne or Roxanne Shante, let me put it that way. She is not even the people who did "Two Pigeons." And there are even lamer lines than "your sex was wack." So it will definitely not make my top ten (and neither will Eamon). BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT I swear I DID hear a very nifty hi-NRG remix once on the radio in Philly, and it sorta blew me away. Unless it was possibly a hi-NRG remix of a DIFFERENT answer song to Eamon (since I hope girls all around the country have been writing them, and if we are lucky, one of them SOUNDS how Frankee LOOKS.)

chuck, Monday, 29 March 2004 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't feel the least battered by the Bad Plus (wish I did) and the only thing obnoxious is the nudge-nudge wink-wink insistence about how wild and wacky they are. I get blah-obvious and kitschy, not over-the-top. If only they really were tasteless.

Haha, I see. So is it just that the concept feels forced then? I think some of it is absolutely supposed to be kitschy, but songs like Big Eater and ...Powers of Observation (and some of their better 'pretty' songs) are winkless and just plain killin'. They make me laugh and shake my head a lot though, in good ways.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Chuck - I see what you mean.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001NBM2G.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Joseph McCombs, Monday, 29 March 2004 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

yow!

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, Matos knows what I'm talkin bout.

(I meant "No Pigeons," not "Two Pigeons," though...)

chuck, Monday, 29 March 2004 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

4 best records I've heard this year:
Animal Collective - Sung Tongs
D. Banhart - Rejoicing in the Hands
Erlend Oye - DJ Kicks
Phoenix - Alphabetical

dleone (dleone), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

>So is it just that the concept feels forced then?

That's a fair description. I simply cannot shake the feeling that's persisted through two albums that they are the latest "jazz for cool people who don't like jazz."

Dock Miles (Dock Miles), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

That's probably the case. The last show I saw was filled with curious hipsters. I personally couldn't care less though. I've liked these guys for while through their other bands (Happy Apple, Mark Turner, etc.), and as big as they've gotten I don't think they ever planned it that way. It's definitely high concept, but it doesn't feel like the treat it like a gimmick (hearing their self-titled album puts the others in perspective, I think).

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't listened to them, but it seems like they're stealing Sex Mob's shtick, only their cover choices are less inspired. Who wants a jazz cover of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" when you could have jazz covers of "Macarena", "Fernando" and "Ruby Tuesday"? Plus Sex Mob were doing it a few years before Bad Plus came out.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Sex Mob are aiight and all, but they really take vastly different approaches (despite both doing pop covers and not being afraid of a little schlock). Sex Mob takes pop melodies and does their pseudo-New Orleans/burlesque/skronk thing, but the moods of the tunes really aren't that different from their original intent. Bad Plus use pop tunes more for deconstruction and improv. I had fun seeing Sex Mob, but to me Bad Plus go a lot deeper...different things though.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 March 2004 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

didn't lester bowie do a marilyn manson cover once? that record was pretty good. at least i think it was him.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 March 2004 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

My friend used to do the sound at my college nightclub. Happy Apple played a lot, and David King was kind of a dick. One time the place was packed, which was a bit unusual, and everybody was having a good time. But the band got all pissy, because people were talking too loud in the back of the room. They ought to have been nodding and grooving silently, I suppose.

Debito (Debito), Monday, 29 March 2004 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Murs
Madvillain
The Ponys (the In the Red band)
Mr Airplane Man
CocoRosie (I'm not sure why I like it, but I do)
Calexico
Kylie Minogue
Stereolab
Cyann and Ben

TV on the Radio sounds like Crash Test Dummies crossed with a bad M83 cover badn, at least from what I've heard (something off the Young Liars EP).

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 04:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Here are my singles.

Singles
1. Usher feat. Ludacris and Lil Jon - Yeah
2. T.I.-Rubberband Man
3. Jay-Z - Dirt Off Your Shoulder
4. Ying Yang Twins - Salt Shaker
5. Ghostface Killah - Tush
6. David Banner ft. Static – Crank It Up
7. Basement Jaxx - Good Luck
8. Madvillain - All Caps
9. Kiley Dean - Keep it Movin'
10. Jay-Z – 99 Problems
11. Cee-Lo - I'll Be Around
12. Junior Boys - High Comes Down
13. Jacki-O - Slow Down
14. Sage Francis F/ Brother Ali & Slug-Doomage
15. Young Gunz - No Better Love
16. Basement Jaxx - Plug It In
17. Missy Elliott - I'm Really Hot
18. Lil Flip - Game Over
19. Twista feat. Kanye West and Jaime Foxx - Slow Jamz
20. Pitbull - Culo

djdee2005, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

>and as big as they've gotten I don't think they ever planned it that way. It's definitely high concept, but it doesn't feel like the[y] treat it like a gimmick.

We've established positions and come to the end of this, seems to me. But I do want to point out that I think this is the old “sincerity gambit.” If performers don't think of themselves as a marketing ploy and play with evident earnestness, this approach somehow makes the music more satisfying or valid.

No. It's irrelevant. Total scams can provide eternal pleasure.

Dock Miles (Dock Miles), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 09:38 (twenty-two years ago)

icarus line - penance soiree
sonic youth - sonic nurse
madvillain - madvillainy
dead prez - rbg
robert pollard - fiction man
deerhoof - milk man
liars - they were wrong so we drowned
oneida - secret wars
joanna newsom - milk-eyed mender

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

But I do want to point out that I think this is the old “sincerity gambit.” If performers don't think of themselves as a marketing ploy and play with evident earnestness, this approach somehow makes the music more satisfying or valid.

No. It's irrelevant. Total scams can provide eternal pleasure.

Yeah, that argument left kind of a bad taste in my mouth when I wrote it. But it's just as irrelevant as a band being worse somehow for being embraced by clueless hipsters.

We've established positions and come to the end of this, seems to me

Agreed, I've been kind of sick of playing 'defender of the band' anyway. I can easily see how people would not dig them no matter how much I do.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Favorite new albums (that have been released) thus far:

Pantha du Prince - Diamond Daze
The Rotating Assembly - Natural Aspirations
Superpitcher - Here Comes Love
Triple R - Selection 2
Kanye West - The College Dropout
DKD - Future Rage
Kerrier District - Kerrier District
Raiders of the Lost ARP - 4

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I've only heard a couple albums so far that I could consider potential favorites - Air, Stereolab, RJD2, Madvillain, Hold Steady, maybe that El-P jazz thing (though I doubt it'll be anywhere near my top 20 at the end of the year). Other than that, I think I've been a bit too out of it. I rated Murs pretty highly when I reviewed it for Keith Harris but for some reason I don't see myself going back to it anytime soon, save for maybe "Trevor and Them" which is loads-o-laffs.

I am going to give TV on the Radio a chance. Why? Because I'm stupid. Also giving them a chance (i.e. haven't heard; will probably like): Wiley, Junior Boys, Squarepusher, Felix Da Housecat.

United States of Electronica makes Junior Senior sound like Probot so right now I'm in "like in small doses" mode. Depending on whether or not I have ready access to a pool and numerous frosty beverages this summer, I could get a bit more into this record. It does come across as an electro-glee version of almost every boy-girl indie-twee-pop band I've heard on Radio K in the summer of '99.

Speaking of Probot: they make me feel like I'm missing something for not knowing as much about metal as I should, but I also get the odd feeling that if I did know a fair deal about metal, I wouldn't like it at all.

Kanye's OK. I haven't given it more than a cursory listen because the cover vaguely reminds me of Buddy Miles' Booger Bear and, therefore, scares the bejesus out of me.

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, another thing about United States of Electronica's album: I cannot stand "Night Shift". This is due entirely to the fact that it apparently resurrects the unfortunate Malcolm McLaren style of MCing. (but it's "melodic", har har)

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Also: THE STREETS. Yes. Hooray for Skinner u fuxx

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"didn't lester bowie do a marilyn manson cover once? that record was pretty good."

Yes, it was! And he covered Notorous BIG and the Spice Girls and Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes and Puccini and ??? on the same album! (His last one before he died, I think!) Come to think of it, I like that record better than any Bad Plus album I've heard. But I still way prefer Bad Plus (whose new record is okay, not as good as the one with Nirvana and Blondie and Aphex Twin covers on it) to what Sex Mob I've heard (which just struck me as some kitcshy camp thing; don't ask me to explain WHY it struck me that way though; I can't remember!)

chuck, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

If we stick to a format close to Bad Plus, I'd much rather go back to Medeski, Martin & Wood's [It's a Jungle in Here] (1993 -- long before they became formula poop) where they do a Monk/Marley medley then cover King Sunny Ade and John Coltrane. And get Marc Ribot to do what John Scofield merely attempts years later.

Hey, here's a reminder-comp I made for the first three months a couple days ago (so it's not all from this year, sue me):

Lanterna, "Clear Blue"
Pace de Lucia, "Cositas Buenas"
Ghost, "Feed"
Fragile State, "Four-Four-Four"
Dani Siciliano, "Come As You Are"
Salif Keita, "Madan" (Gekko remix)
Sally Timms & Jon Langford, "Joshua Gone Barbados"
The Fiery Furnaces, "Don't Dance Her Down"
Jon Langford, "Sputnik 57"
Amy Farris, "No Exit"
Mel Brown, "Greasy Spoon"
Dave Douglas, "Rock of Billy"
Black Blood, "A.I.E. (A'Mwana)" (orig. single mix)

Dock Miles (Dock Miles), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess that's part of the appeal for me...I've been playing jazz and listening to jazz long enough where it's hard to get excited about "let's take this jazz song and put a reggae/funk/drum n' bass etc. beat to it" or vice versa, where the musicians are clearly coming from a jazz perspective.

It's fine and all, and I love that MMW record, but for some reason it's always felt like TBP are prepared to work with pop music more on its own terms aesthetically. Like expressing the original feeling of the song, just in a totally different way.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

>it's always felt like TBP are prepared to work with pop music more on its own terms aesthetically.

This sounds correct to me. I just don't think they're any good at it. Sending up Blondie as piffle and approaching Nirvana with reverence ... would have been lots more impressive if they'd pulled off the reverse.

Dock Miles (Dock Miles), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Speaking of Probot: they make me feel like I'm missing something for not knowing as much about metal as I should, but I also get the odd feeling that if I did know a fair deal about metal, I wouldn't like it at all.

Haha yes! That is almost exactly how I feel.

Regarding kanye, I think the cover art is terrific! Roger Mexico/Slumberlord said that he wasn't feeling albums as much as singles this year thus far, and I have to agree.

I heard a couple songs from Diamond Daze, and I want to hear more, although it hasn't blown me away thus far.
I also want to hear the new DJ Spooky.

djdee2005, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

only album I've heard in its entirety that I can see myself voting in Pazz'n'Jop for is Nellie McKay. Though there's well over ten singles already that I would find worthy.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I really don't get the enthusiasm for "Positive Jam" on the Hold Steady album, but I played another track off that thing called "Hostile, Mass" on my radio show and it was good enough that I'm gonna listen to the whole album once we stop playing it as format. I'm still waiting to hear the Hold Steady/Lifter Puller song that doesn't sound like an "Ice Of Boston" re-write.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I really don't get the enthusiasm for "Positive Jam" on the Hold Steady album

and I'm not just hearing the acclaim here, some friends at the station are nuts about it too.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I feel like I'd like Nellie McKay more if my personality didn't run so contrary to her bubbly-too-smart-for-her-own-good persona.

djdee2005, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I think my #1 of the year would be Mad Love by Robi Draco Rosa, which came out today (well, March 30 US), followed closely by Allison Moorer's The Duel and Pepito's Everything Changes, neither of which is out yet. I'd round things out with some Twista and Cee-Lo, some Sergent Garcia and Paulina Rubio, a touch of Tanya Stephens and some Joyce (with Banda Maluca), and maybe Rasputina and/or Kanye or/and the Baby Bash screwed and chopped record for #10. Or David Banner. I expect this to change a lot more, except for the top three records, which are fuckin' awesome and I won't back down from that shit.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 01:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that Robi Rosa that hot? You might have to burn me that shit.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Favorite things so far...

Decemberists, "Tain"
Mission of Burma, "ONoffON"
What I've heard of "Penance Soiree"
Jim Guthrie, "Now More Than Ever"
Most of the Nellie McKay album
Most of "The College Dropout"
Scissor Sisters, self-titled LP
N.E.R.D., "Drill Sergeant" (the first part)
The Hold Steady, "The Hold Steady Almost Killed Me"
Modest Mouse, "Good News..." (still waiting for full-quality files...)
The first twenty-four seconds of "Simple" by the Beta Band.

Simon H., Wednesday, 31 March 2004 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

My favorite single of the year so far = Blondie, "Good Boys"

Of course, I also really like both of the Maroon 5 singles, so this may not mean much here ... ah well.

Joseph McCombs, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

right now i'm a total ho for that magnetic fields

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Jordan: screw the burning shit (my copy is non-burnable anyway)...Robi Rosa is on sale for like $7.99 at Best Buy! Or we could just go for a roadtrip one of these nights and max out my '98 Saturn speakers.

By the way, after another listen, the Tanya Stephens record belongs in my top pantheon. No better reggae album has been made since like forever. It's also kinda dancehall and doo-wop and folk-song, fiery and horny (the sweetest love song is about a guy's huge dick)...wow.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"non-burnable"...c'mon matt, nobody's buying that shit

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude it's copy-protected like 15 different ways. I don't know how to even play the thing on my computer, much less figure out how to copy it. You're such a CDR hard guy, Blount, haul yr ass off the couch and up here and figure it out for me.

I thought so. All talk.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I AM ON MY WAY AND AFTER I AM DONE I WILL HAVE MY WAY WITH YOUR WIFE AND YOUR TOASTER

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

AND THEN I WILL KICK YOUR ASS IN ROTO BASEBALL

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

fuck you, my toaster's off limits!

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

A fight to the death! Can I watch?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

records i've listened to the most:

jc chasez, schizophrenic
the intelligence, boredom and terror
erland oye, dj kicks
eletrelane, the power out
the hold steady, almost killed me
incubus, the crow...

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Pantha du Prince is pretty great, esp. Eisregen.

djdee2005, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh shit dude, I actually do quite like that Incubus album! I keep forgetting about it.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Pantha du Prince is pretty great, esp. Eisregen.

I might end up liking it more than the second Lawrence album. The samples at the beginning and end of "Circle Glider" were driving me nuts -- it finally dawned on me the other day that they're from the Chills' "Pink Frost."

Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
at the moment, my updated 2004 lists would look something like this:

albums
Archimides Badkar *Tre*,
Big & Rich *Horse of a Different Color*
Kenny Chesney *When the Sun Goes Down*
Country Teasers *Secret Weapon Revealed At Last*
Crime in Choir *The Hoop*
Death Comet Crew *This is Riphop,*
DNA *DNA on DNA*
The Hiss *Panic Movement*
Living Things *Black Skies in Broad Daylight*
Loretta Lynn *Van Lear Rose*
Montgomery Gentry *You Do Your Thing*
Neurosis *The Eye of Every Storm*
The Ponys *Laced With Romance*
Red Swan *After the Barn Goes,*
Arthur Russell *The World of Arthur Russell,*
Warren Brothers, *Well-Deserved Obscurity*
Will to Power, *Spirit Warrior*
Gretchen Wilson *Here For The Party*
15.60.75, *Jimmy Bell's Still in Town*
*Monster Records: The Seventies Sampler*,
*Princess Nicotine,*
*Radio Morocco,*
*The Third Unheard: Connecticut HipHop 1979-1983,*

singles

Big & Rich "Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)"
Big & Rich "Wild West Show,"
Sara Evans "Perfect"
Jay-Z "99 Problems"
J-Kwon "Tipsy"
R. Kelly, "Happy People"
Last Days of May "The First 7 Billion Miles"
Courtney Love, "Mono"
Loretta Lynn featuring Jack White "Portland, Oregon"
Martina McBride "This One's for the Girls,"
Measles Mumps Rubella "Fountain of Youth,"
Montgomery Gentry "If You Ever Stop Loving Me"
Red Swan "What Really Happened at Rose Lake"
Julie Roberts "Break Down Here"
Britney Spears "Toxic,"
Subterranean Masquerade "Observation Through Metamorphosis"
Gretchen Wilson, "Redneck Woman"
Ying Yang Twins featuring Lil Jon "Salt Shaker,"

chuck, Monday, 10 May 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Once again, I have never heard of a single one of those records (except for "Toxic" and "99 Problems" of course).

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Once again it becomes painfully clear that I simply do not have the scrill to keep up with this whole music thing.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)


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