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I just bought the Turning Point (?) vinyl reissue of Live At The Witch Trials by the Fall. I would like the guitar to be louder and the drums to be less loud. Any suggestions?

― Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 05:28 (twenty-two years ago)

like is the CD reissue with the bonus tracks mixed differently? Dragnet seems rawer to me, guitar/recording-wise.

― Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 05:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, that's how Live at the Witch Trials was produced--drags it down a bit. Dragnet and esp. Grotesque serve the band much better from that standpoint.

― no opinion, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I have the same vinyl repress and I hear what you're saying. Turn the bass down a bit and boost the mid-range. And thank your lucky stars it's not the Cog Sinster cd print ... skips n dropouts AHOY.

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't imagine that anyone bothered to actually do a whole new mix on that. Haven't heard that new pressing, but I would really doubt that a remix actually happened.

― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

but a lot can happening in the mastering phase...

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard the new 2-CD edition sounds flawless. No longer mastered from crappy vinyl copies, AND you get a ton of spiffy bonus tracks.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep that new 2-disc sets a keeper. Sound is really good.Bonus stuff is Early Singles, Dresdon Dolls Boot,Peel Sessions,Short Circuit - Live At The Electric Circus Tracks, Live Liverpool 78. You wouldn't regret buying it (again).

― brg30 (brg30), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Who put out this new 2CD edition? (And is the sound significantly better than Live+ thing that just came out a year and a half ago and which was a vast improvement other the awful not + Live from four years previous.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

there are too damn many fall reissues.

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

can anyone speak to the quality of those "+" reissues? is it worth replacing the old ones? i know in the case of "witch trials," it must be, since the old, from-vinyl cd is pretty crappy sounding... but is it worth it, in terms of sound quality alone, to trade up to "hex enduction +" or "dragnet +"?

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

The original sounds great to these ears.

― holojames (holojames), Thursday, 1 April 2004 09:38 (twenty-two years ago)

The drums were always too loud and the guitar was always too quiet on this album but the songs are so great it hardly matters

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 1 April 2004 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)

... plus Karl Burns overplays like hell

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 1 April 2004 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)

The original sounds grebt to me too - vinyl, of course.

I did get the latest Dragnet+, as my old vinyl copy is pretty worn out. Seems mid-fi mow, instead of the lo-fi of the orig. You seem to be able to hear a bit more of what's going on with the guitars and the bass is pretty punchy. Worth getting.

Yes, KB throws in too many rolls on LATWT.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 1 April 2004 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

He and Colm O'Ciosoig (sp?) are like the only drummers who do anything like ENOUGH rolls, man

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 1 April 2004 10:23 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hex Enduction Hour" needs to be re-issued on double vinyl.

― tacit (tacit), Thursday, 1 April 2004 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)

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