Dizzee Rascal Just Said That Rap Was The CNN Of Music

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On the radio. I can't get away from him on NPR. They've got Rascal fever over there.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 8 April 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, so the late eighties revival is now. Who wants to be a soldier of love?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

well it's england. things take a little time to make it over there.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

good to see everyone's picking up on dizzee now just in time for the wiley album.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

So, what would be the FoxNews of music, then?

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

good to see everyone's picking up on dizzee now just in time for the wiley album.

"Its sleeve, showing the influence of mid-eighties Midwest hardcore..."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Pop Punk!

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― Lil' Fancy Kpants (ex machina), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)Nashville country, I imagine.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

So would that mean Will Oldham = Bill O'Reilly, then?

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not too sure who that equation is supposed to be insulting.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Will Oldham is country for indie losers.

― Lil' Fancy Kpants (ex machina), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

well we all know how nashville will oldham is

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Toby Keith = FoxNews of music

― jaymatter, Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

They don't teach analogies in college these days do they?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

dude you're just blinded by the propaganda

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont really know what that means

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Toby Keith's teeth are very white.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Also his belt buckle is shiny.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

he's no kenny chesney

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I think it might be more accurate to say that rap is the CNBC of music.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

who can churn my butter and do other farm related activities anytime

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't listen to rap so I should shut up!

― Lil' Fancy Kpants (ex machina), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Since when is churning butter a farm related activity?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you watch CNBC?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Answer: no one watches CNBC.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Am i the journal...or the journalist?

― Rakim, Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Country is TNN of music.

― jazz odysseus, Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, they're not churning butter in the bronx right now, i'd imagine

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

boogie down productions - "black margarine"

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Only because Robert Moses put a STOP to it!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a shit analogy. CNN doesn't have any bling.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

TNN is now Spike.

― jaymatter, Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

it was slightly more accurate when it was originally said in 1989

nowadays maybe it's more like reality television

― (Jon L), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dizzee Rascal Just Said That Rap Was The CNN Of Music"

That seems about right.
People think they're getting the complete story if they're watching CNN.
Many think they're getting the real shit if they're watching BET.

― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the "real" shit then?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Oops! I didn't realize that. It's still Country music, though, right?
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― jazz odysseus, Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

No, it's Blind Date and Miami Vice. CMT is Country Music Televison.

― jaymatter, Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry - I didn't mean that - it was an ill-phrased joke about what a clueless hermit I am. *sigh*

― jazz odysseus, Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

...but who WOULD be the Spike TV of music?

― jaymatter, Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

By "real shit" I mean that many believe that the vids on BET portray the "black experience" accurately.

I took Dizzee's quote as him saying that people are finding out what's really going through popular rap music.

― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The REAL question everyone should be asking is, "What the hell is Dizzee Rascal doing on NPR???"

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

They also played an excerpt of him freestyling at an L.A. radio station and afterward the goofy dj sez something like:"You got skillz, homey!" The person reporting also made sure to mention that most of the audience at his shows are white and that he doesn't play "typical" rap venues.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-x-post)From BET? Where did he say that?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

This was the second long piece i've heard on NPR about him. Neither of which were as good as their excellent MF Doom piece. That thing was long and had great interviews with Doom.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder what CNN is.

― Stupid (Stupid), Friday, 9 April 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Grime is the A&E of Music

― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Friday, 9 April 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

CNN is the last great NYC rap duo.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 9 April 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

311 is the Spike TV of music.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 9 April 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

CNN is the last great NYC rap duo.

I don't have a tv, so I have to get my news from Audio Two

― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Friday, 9 April 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm the lamest dude.

― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Friday, 9 April 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

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i don't "rap is cnn" had anything to do with consciousness

-- strongo hulkington (dubplatestyl...), April 9th, 2004.

um, you do know Chuck D. coined the phrase, yes?

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

no, for you see, i live under a rock, with my thumbs in my ears, on neptune.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i still don't see how it changes what i said.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

well there you go.

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

considering when he said it rap had already seen just ice, schooly d, criminal minded, miami bass, the first stirrings of compton, etc etc etc.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i.e. "the news" doesn't equal "the good news". leave that shit to jesus.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

that's not exactly my point.

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

haha what IS your point then

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I am confused how the man behind "Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos" could be thought to be all sweetness and light, or something. Consciousness /= not rough (cf. Criminal Minded).

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

also y'know CNN reports on murders, bad shit, etc.

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

http://monkeydyne.com/rmcs/opencomic.phtml?rowid=54731

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

ultimately succumbing to ... bling-obsessed hip hop

see, flava flav wore a big clock round his neck because he wanted to show you what TIME it was.

and the zulu nation were freshly-pressed and wore nice shoes because that's what farrakhan told them to do.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i.e. "the news" doesn't equal "the good news". leave that shit to jesus.

Hahaha. But seriously.

50 Cent informing you that if you're looking for him, you can find him in the club is certainly not news.

Missy Elliott exclaiming that she's really, really hot is similarly not news.

Ludacris asking you to move and get out of the way is also not news.

Pharrell professing his desire to ride a young lady's posterior as if it were a space ship....also not news.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

rap was so much more intelligent when the mcs were named culture freedom and wise intelligent.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

but that's so obvious.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

black thought!!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

saying that rap today isn't like CNN and is more like E! isn't as much a perjorative as y'all are making it out to be. Most of the time I'd rather watch E! than CNN.

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

the line between them is pretty goddamn thin to begin with

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think many of you (except maybe hstencil) have watched what cnn fills the hours up with on a slow news day

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"man wins 50 million dollar jackpot; requests rubdown from jessica simpson"

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

oh god, it's horrendous.

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

rap today = cnn
rap in the age of alex in nyc = late night talk radio

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

remember when Chuck D. made the comment, Ted Turner was still running CNN. AOL/Time Warner has made it a hollow shell of its former self.

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

chuck d = art bell

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not saying i consider art bell capable of improving on hyperbolicsyllabicsesquedalymistic, though, so it's not exactly a parity.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

isn't celebrating PE's philosophy (and all conscious rap by extension) sort of like doing the same for nation of ulysses? or applauding the orb for opening your chakras or some shit like that?

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

clearly all conscious rappers think alike. They might even look alike, too.

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Killing Joke is the late night UHF edited-for-TV screening of The Corpse Grinders of music

xp stence: OMG THEY R ALL WYTE

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I got brothers in the Jungle, cousins on the Quest
Deaf retarded uncles, in parties were they rest

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

pop music is all about love, sex & personal relationships...at least rap talks about something other than that, for that reason alone it is more reflective of reality...regardless of quality.

― movawill, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, watches.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

and fancy dress parties.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

they walk alike, they talk alike, sometimes they even rap alike! You will lose your mind, when conscious rappers are twoooo of a kiiiiiind!

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not gonna live in a neighborhood where there's a chance I might have to watch "Vanilla Sky" along w/ CNN, esp. w/out Pimp Juice

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, that's too bad about rap

― ken taylrr, Friday, 9 April 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

aying that rap today isn't like CNN and is more like E! isn't as much a perjorative as y'all are making it out to be. Most of the time I'd rather watch E! than CNN.

I really didn't mean it to sound like a pejorative. Honest. It's just not news, that's my point. I'd rather watch E! than CNN any day of the week.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

that's some company loyalty, Alex.

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Emo is the HGTV of music.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

TVG is the experimental horse music of tv.

― hstencil, Friday, 9 April 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm kinda surprised anybody would think mainstream rap post-P. Diddy sounds more like CNN than E.IF they have to be compared to annoying-as-fuck TV stations I find near impossible to watch.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 9 April 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

chuck d = art bell

professor griff = art bell

actually, gybe! = art bell

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 9 April 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

gybe! entertainment television

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(sorry)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 April 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I would SO do shrooms and watch gybe! TV

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 9 April 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

another in a series of strongo's oxymorons

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Friday, 9 April 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

(but now I'm concocting a concept of GYBET and whoa)

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Friday, 9 April 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

that's some company loyalty, Alex.

Hahaha. CNN are corporate siblings and nothing more.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 9 April 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

isn't celebrating PE's philosophy (and all conscious rap by extension)

i suppose what i meant to say here was "(you could extend this statement to all conscious rap)"

but i don't mean that just because it's true for PE, it then necessarily extends to include everyone else.

i'd been puzzling over hstencil's response all morning.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 9 April 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I would SO do shrooms and watch gybe! TV

Great for insomnia.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 April 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, to make it perfect, the 'typical GYBE spoken word sample' should be Hans Moleman's radio shpiel.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 April 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

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