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SHROOMADELICA - The music movement that will 'weird up your head', featuring The Bees and The Zutons
http://microsites.nme.com/thisweek/index.html

― Alexei, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:03 (twenty-one years ago)

DEAR NME FUCK OFF THANKYOU

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)

DEAR ZUTONS YOU TOO THANKYOU

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Couldn't have put it better myself.

― Alexei, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Which kind of sums it all up. Next!

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)

How are The Zutons or The Bees psychedelic? I assume that's what this is about, psychedelia, drugs, hallucinogens, blah blah blah. The Zutons sound more like The Coral than The Coral, and The Bees may be quite nice but they're not fucking psychedelic.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Not taking drugs to make music for people who have never taken drugs to listen to music while pretending to be on drugs!

― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Kate OTM again.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe someone buying the NME for the 2nd part of the Morrissey interview or The Streets article(The Streets on front cover)
Will give us the gist of the article?
I'm not parting with any cash for it anyway.

― Alexei, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i think its funny. I WANT A PSYCHEDELIC REVIVAL!!

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean if you were really loaded on acid then I imagine pretty much any music no matter how unpsychedelic would send you off on some strange journey, but if you're NOT loaded on acid then by golly you really need something very odd sounding to get you going.

I hate stoners.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:14 (twenty-one years ago)

A psychedelic revival would be good, but The Zutons are not it.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd like a psychedelic revival if the bands involved were (a) any good and (b) actually psychedelic

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

crosspost

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

even the clientele are more psychedelic than both those bands.

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

zutons are beefheart-lite. i've got the album... not listened to it yet because am stuck on kathryn williams rather lovely covers album. i suspect, this could, possibly branch into a full-swing revival. and i can write about the earlies! HOORAY!

― DOOMIE X, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

God, I was 16 when I first heard In Sides and bugger me if that didn't knock 'psychedelic rock' into a cocked hat. My perception of what psychedelic means changed irrevecobaly (sic).

X-post Jim OTM re. Clientele.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

the clientele are psyche by default -- i.e. you need drugs to keep yrself awake whilst listening. boring!

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

How did people ever mistake me for you?

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i dunno. i was pretty offended. i've never actually been to the west country provinces as well.

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

the NME should spend some time in the company of the Woronzow catalog and get some clue as to what they're talking about

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

jim, there are about a thousand bands which would fit this bill, and a thousand bands that i love that fit this bill...

the memory band, etc etc.

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:19 (twenty-one years ago)

sounds like the seed of a new soundoff!!

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ha ha. jim, i was at universal yesterday making plans and documentation. so funny that you mentioned that!

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate you, Doomie.

― Cartman (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i know.

and i know that ilx sometimes comes from a dark place. but i'm o.k. with that.

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The Earlies album is phenomenal. I want to see you doing that in NME as a lead.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:27 (twenty-one years ago)

marcello, is the album out? am behind in promo-time because of move, got 'devil's country' single.

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

They've started to send out promos. I only got mine in the post yesterday, so you'll probably get one imminently. There isn't even a title for the album yet but the record itself is amazing. Up there with Sufjan Stevens' "Greetings From Michigan."

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been writing about the earlies since the first single. i think that they are going to be big...!!! am annoyed because my editor took over as big-shot editor for the month of april and my earlies live review got killed for reasons unknown (i.e. the junior editor didnt know who the earlies are...) FUCK ME AM EXCITED.

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

wish i'd bought that 10" of theirs now

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Trying to persuade Uncut to do it as a lead, but when I mentioned it to DP yesterday he shrugged his shoulders and asked me "fancy reviewing the Bay City Rollers compilation?"

Do you reckon my time with Uncut might be coming to an end?...I'm now on the payroll of Time Out, and John Lewis seems to be a million times more open to my ideas. So I'll probably take my Earlies rave review there.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i dunno, to be honest marcello, new things are coming up for me, and media is a closed public school club for white, affluent middle-class individuals. so i just try to have fun. and am focussing on the indie record company job that i got plus nme writing.

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The Bay City Rollers were a far finer band than any band listed on this thread so far...

x-post, oh dear lord...

― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't they do nu-psychedlia about four or five years ago? Except then apparently it meant the Super Furries and the Flaming Lips and the Beta Band and stuff.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

new music is officially at its lowest point ever, save for a very small handful of bands

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

this kathryn williams covers album is beautiful like a francoise hardy sings in english or something.

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The thread has provided me with some much-needed laffs this morning.

― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

'coming from a dark place'

marcello, don't stress and have fun. that's the advice. otherwise 'comes from a dark place'

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I'm not feeling stressed or particularly dark at the moment, just a bit depressed at the moment for reasons which have nowt to do with the Greater London Music Media.

Actually Kate, d'you fancy doing the Rollers review? I've tried my best with them but even I can't rehabilitate every doe-eyed bubbleboy from the '70s!

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:01 (twenty-one years ago)

you never followed up my email, marcello -- so i assumed everything was good and happy in carlin-land.

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:03 (twenty-one years ago)

hopefully??

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:03 (twenty-one years ago)

marcello, have you heard 'john stammers?' it roxxx!

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh heh, don't tempt me, Marcello.

― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(i.e. yes, I would very much like to do it, and I'd like to get paid for doing it, but I don't want to get sucked back into the nebulous world of music journalism.)

― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

am going to regret this but what is so nebulous about getting paid for writing and being sent to free shows and getting free music?

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus Christ (referring back to the original topic of this thread): Does this desperate idea for a new movement mean they'll also be trying to foist Gong and Ozric Tentacles as its forefathers. The earlier post about new music being at its lowest ebb would sound all too plausible were that the case...

― M Carty (mj_c), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i want a magma and goblin revival!

― doomie x, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

New music is great. However, having said that, the stuff I'm excited about this year is all third/fourth/ninth albums by bands I've liked for years.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure this will be as big a success for the NME as nwemo was.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipping 97 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

I'm trying to think where the actual boundary line of Camden ends...

Or is it South of Oxford Street and therefore not in the weird aberration area of Camden at all?

― Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"Mornington Crescent"?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:46 (twenty-one years ago)

comments re Delays = La's-Lite make my stoopid comment re Shroom' scene figureheads = Cast not that stoopid anymore. gosh.

― mark e (mark e), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:46 (twenty-one years ago)

North side, practically above HMV.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was a GURL singing

I know! I've been thinking that since I first heard them, then I learned otherwise the other week and my head hurt.

Graham's production is I think the secret to their success at their best. It's not him making them sound like BP or anything, more like he's got a great ear for teasing out some unexpectedly strong arrangements.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I came home this evening to find HSA lying on the floor listening to Nearer Than Heaven or whatever it's called over and over and over again. So that song is worth Carolanning, but I don't really expect much more from them.

(Have low hopes from bands, then you'll never be disappointed.)

― Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Kate, check the last track again, it's great. And the steel drums in the opener! And the ambient keyboard hook in the third track! And bin the rest. I put those four tracks on my iPod.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 April 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I've really enjoyed this thread so far. I guess I've been disappointed with new UK bands for quite awhile now but keep hoping some will turn up someday. I've heard two tracks from the new Beta Band and am eagerly awaiting that, but that isn't really the same as a brand new band. The whole shroomadelica thing sounds ridiculous, as one would expect from NME.

What does it mean when someone says "xpost", though? I mean, obviously they're saying "cross post" but I can't figure out what they mean by that. I would think this might be explained in the FAQ, but no luck, there.

― bimble (bimble), Saturday, 24 April 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Xpost means you typed it and hit submit, but that someone else had posted a message in the interim which may or may not affect the context of your own message.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 24 April 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Sure makes a lot of sense now. Thanks.

― bimble (bimble), Sunday, 25 April 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

not to be confused with the Psychedelimush movement of 2001.

― gas, Sunday, 25 April 2004 06:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I've heard two tracks from the new Beta Band and am eagerly awaiting that, but that isn't really the same as a brand new band.

I'm sure the Bees have been making records for as long as i've been a hack too.

― stevie (stevie), Sunday, 25 April 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

From http://microsites.nme.com/thisweek/index.html
ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND - Why watching it's the nearest thing to getting mashed off your nut on shrooms.

They're gonna keep running with this Shroomadelica pish aren't they?

― Alexei, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd expect it's partially because you can buy them legally now from some market stall in Camden. There's a legal loophole, or something.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I would definitely like to resurrect this thread. I have now gone to the trouble of listening to some of the bands mentioned here, along with a few other new bands that have gotten rave reviews on ilx and I must say The Bees win hands down. Perhaps someone will be offended if I reveal that they sound like the Beta Band to me, and that's plenty enough to keep me interested. The Bees and Beta Band represent music that to me sounds like something totally new and inventive, or at the very least *different*, and bursting with a refreshing, anything-goes kind of creativity. They really seem to underscore what now looks suddenly and strangely like a very apparent problem for Radiohead: not enough black influences.

I eagerly anticipate the arrival of the entire Bees album, although come to think of it, they probably have more than one. Thank you Stevie for turning me on to them.

― bimble (bimble), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I notice, the top letter on the letters page is basically, OH THANK YOU NME FOR SHROOMADELICA I'M IN HEAVEN!

Alright, which one of you sarc barsts wrote in?

― mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i think its funny!

the bees have done nothing for me. dunno why?

― doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)

the bees bore me senseless, not unlike the beta bland

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

the beta bland are so dull now. they have turned into embrace! you should check out sketchbook records and the earlies, jim. wait, you already have!

― doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, what's so great about The Earlies then? They either sound like Flaming Lips when they have vocals, or they're just electronic noodlers.

― bimble (bimble), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:54 (twenty-one years ago)

they're more graceful, and their melodies are better

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

yes. jim's got it. and they have *insert simon cowell voice* - 'the x-factor'.

― doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean, listen to manitoba, the earlies, the memory band and then contrast and compare to the beta band (newer stuff) and the bees. no contest.

though that pure reason revolution single is really growing on me as well...!

― doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:01 (twenty-one years ago)

But Doomie, I hyped that Manitoba album, surely you can't like it?

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

pure reason revolution single?

(x post)

― bimble (bimble), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

again, nick, you do not factor in my likes and dislikes.

― doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

pure reason revolution -- apprentice of the universe. i review them live a few months ago -- and i find myself pulling the single out and listening to it alot lately. its sort of like amonn dull crossed with the monkees.

― doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

fyi - nick -- dan from manitoba is from a small town outside of my hometown -- dundas, ontario -- and well, sort of been listening and seeing that guy around for ages, long before ilx even.

― doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

clarification.

dundas is a village connection to my hometown - hamilton. i would recommend neither for a visit. hamilton is a mean-as-fuck crack-eyes faded steeltown.

― doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

amon duul crossed with the monkees sounds like my cup of tea. cheers.

― bimble (bimble), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I've been thinking of starting another thread for this, but I've been reluctant. I don't wish to get too off topic, but my burning question is: Did Amon Duul really ever do anything even half as good as Archangel Thunderbird? My compilation tells me to fear the answer.

― bimble (bimble), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Soap Shop Rock.

― Royston, Sunday, 9 May 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

jesus, this was one of the most horrific shows i've seen all year... like a bunch of hoxton hairdresser born-again christians rocking through the soundtrack of Hair while pulling painful Radiohead faces. one of the guitarists wore the band's own tee shirt too. Icksville, Tennessee...

― stevie (stevie), Sunday, 9 May 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

they are from reading!

― doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

born-again christians rocking through the soundtrack of Hair while pulling painful

ha ha ha! cross that with a pop-prog monkees and you've got it. rocking!

― doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

they are from reading!

They are? I hadn't noticed (which is quite possible)

― mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 9 May 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

is this anything like weirdo beardcore?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 9 May 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"I hate stoners. "

me too.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 May 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven years pass...

doomie was from Hamilton?

― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 19:39 (ten years ago)

I think this was the worst 'scene' that NME ever tried to create. ESOJ OTM upthread

― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 19:49 (ten years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/mar/17/romo-skunk-rock-shroomadelica-music-genres

― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 19:50 (ten years ago)

yeah yeah.

i will defend regular fries no matter what micro-genre they get lumped in with.

they were connected, the records were really well produced, had some amazing remixes by the top names of the day, and made tripped out psych-funk-hip hop-rock records.

if, you had no idea re their NME connection, i would suggest that in 10 years you would be hailing them as classics CS

― mark e, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 19:57 (ten years ago)

I heard them at the time and thought they were crap.
Also I dont remember the term 'skunk rock' they got called in that above article.

― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 19:59 (ten years ago)

i genuinely believe that if you heard the fries debut without any prior knowledge you would enjoy ..

― mark e, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 20:01 (ten years ago)

but i heard them on the evening session before i read about them. I think i got a 12" of theirs for 50p in Impulse Records in Hamilton when it came out.

― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 20:41 (ten years ago)

There was an attempted NME scene called 'stool' possibly late 90s. Don't think it ever caught on cos it's a shit title.
Despite the crap pun that is true. Think it was singer-songwriter plus band stuff.

― Stevolende, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 21:49 (ten years ago)

was that the taking the piss out of noel rock thing?

― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 22:30 (ten years ago)

yeah, stoolrock was Noely G-based

― let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 23:08 (ten years ago)

also Lo-Fis were great, Regular Fries were good, and if the first Campag album stopped after 45 minutes it'd be a lot better

― let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 23:13 (ten years ago)

despite the ILM consensus 'sic' tells the truth.

also, the second campag velocet album is a lot better than it should have been ..

― mark e, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 23:16 (ten years ago)

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