the game

check that. game does a double-time thing, second verse in.

ain't no mixtape slangin round here
we too busy gangbangin round here
they took carmello's chain at the all-star game round here
round here yeah round here yeah
see red and blue bandanas wrapped around gunhandles yeah

He can rap too slow for his own good - if he spits a really dumb or corny line it's just right in your face, hanging there, for what seems like forever.

He can rap too slow for his own good - if he spits a really dumb or corny line it's just right in your face, hanging there, for what seems like forever.

l.a.x. is really good and i didn't like doctor's advocate at all, really

anyone else heard it?

i still wish game was a better rapper, right now he's getting over on passion and the fact that he's evolved (probably devolved personally) into one of the most complex personalities in rap and raps openly about it. he's like the anti-rick ross in that sense

basically like this one better cuz it's got grimier and grittier beats, not so much of the whiny synth aping that plagued the bad tracks on doctor's advocate

Some of it's okay. He doesn't have an original bone in his body, and he's not funny or insightful at all, but he's really good at ripping off other rappers' flows, which works for him on the track with Nas, the one with Wayne, and the one where he has a verse in 2pac's voice and with his flow and then Biggie's. I can't understand why he didn't try to do anything with the Eazy-E one, though.

I agree with Jordan but I was hoping there'd be more about how messed up he apparently is.

Also it's depressing how completely wrecked DMX sounds.

The track with Weezy - "My Life" - is awesome.

even the string of r&b loverman songs in the middle (thought i was listening to t.i. vs t.i.p. for a second) isn't as shitty as you'd imagine

is the track with Nas on L.A.X.? thats some hot shit

basically like this one better cuz it's got grimier and grittier beats, not so much of the whiny synth aping that plagued the bad tracks on doctor's advocate

-- J0rdan S., Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:47 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Link

what were those 'bad tracks'??

i dont think hes a bad rapper

I don't think he is either. This is probably one of my most anticipated rap records of the year.

what were those 'bad tracks'??

-- deej, Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:04 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

i don't remember that much about doctor's advocate specifically, but here are the songs i kept from it:

- doctor's advocate
- wouldn't get far
- why you hate the game

the rest i'd consider to be mediocre or bad, and i remember thinking that a lot of the songs sounded like really amateurly done rips of dre tracks, though i couldn't specifically tell you which ones anymore, and obv i know that not all of them were like that

i don't think he's a bad rapper either, i think he oscillates between good and great, just wish he stayed in great more often

^^^crazy

the 'amateurly done rips' were awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGoqy4SC8BY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHXamFpHnGU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-DvYAX0IAo
and esp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNc5c--N9Vo
>B-O

>B^O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOUXvb91om8

^^^classic chronic 2001 sound

i think maybe this album is so hot to me cuz its like a tribute to 2001, which basically soundtracked my late teens/early 20s

man you dudes repping hard for that will.i.am track is so crazy to me-- i feel like im listening to one of those lil wayne youtube parodies of a proposed will.i.am/game collaboration

the other three sound better than i remember esp the one w/ nate dogg but i stand by the assertion that this one is better and doctor's advocate was only okay

plus one blood was just hot

i havent heard the new one yet, im just saying

this is probably the wrong thing to say about the game also probably inherent in listening to him, but a whole album of well done or not well done dre rips + him rapping all the time about dre and the west coast etc etc seems really cloying to me

as opposed to the production here and maybe on the documentary

getting over cloyingness= inherent in listening to the game, i mean

Maybe it's not so much that he's a bad rapper as a bad writer. His flows are pretty good on this album. But come on. His punchlines are terrible, a good 15% of his rhymes don't rhyme, the constant stanning about rap music stopped being cute two albums ago (though I guess having a rapper who really, really loves rap music is better than the alternative, Lupe Fiasco), and he's constantly saying stupid things. Random line playing right now:

"By now you gotta be wet/Like the ocean after the sun sets"

there you have it, folks, courtesy of The Game: the ocean is wet.

ANTEXIT OTM

hes always been a dum dum but thats not a surprise

no, the game's point is that the ocean is wetter after the sun sets. in this he skilfully captures an elusive truth about perspective and reality, and of the darkness within and without. cough.

thing abt the game is he such a supreme weirdo. so overly earnest. absolutely no irony or sense of humor at all. you get the feeling hes prob diagnosable w/some personality disorder. martin luther king had a left eye had a aaliyah had a.. o_O dude one of these things is not like the others. he doesnt even realize people are laughing at him much less understand why. he named his album after a guy who wouldnt even give him a track for it. its that looney momentum that makes him sort of compelling.

(hate it or love it - best song eva)

"By now you gotta be wet/Like the ocean after the sun sets"

what's wrong with this line

yeah I totally don't buy the narrative that being a self-contradictory studio gangsta who can't keep his story straight for two interviews in a row suddenly makes him a complex, fascinating character in spite of his subpar rapping.

-- Al (Alex In Baltimore), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:56 (1 year ago) Link

no one's taking it to the "complex & fascinating" level though are they. i do find him entertaining though - sarge is right about the cloying game persona, though it's not so much about getting over it as engaging with him to whatever extent. you can enjoy him as a sometimes endearing gossipblog trainwreck, or you can enjoy him in displaced homage to what he's going for like deej said, or you can just enjoy him loosely as a determined sort of rapper you don't get many of these days.

tbh though all this stuff made doc's advocate fairly offputting at the time (loved the storch single with the ridiculous dre impersonation, got bogged down with all the press after that) but since then it's grown to be pretty good. i've only listened to l.a.x once so far but it seems like easily his worst album - the beats seem neither here nor there really, and he sounds pointless. (srsly thought my computer was crashing when that terrible newcleus flip with luda came on.)

we do learn he has two dogs called biggie & pac though.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f14/snouts/thegame.jpg

<3 A LOON TODAY

lol

calling game a subpar rapper assumed that par is a lot higher than it is these days.

i'm with everyone, i kinda love the dude/he kinda bugs the shit outta me. but yeah he's sorta genuinely bonkers and he CARES so much it's compelling in a way.

the constant references thing does drive me nuts though, like every other line.

also he is probly the only rapper alive who really SHOULD collabo with linkin park or something

fuck that would be great

look, i'm not trying to say that game is like, some special super complex omg crazy character, but compared to many of his contemporaries— dj khaled crew, for instance— he raps candidly and openly about his conflictions, and i find this compelling, as i do with rappers like wayne, kanye, jeezy and t.i.. now, his problem, as is obvious, is that lyrically, he's not on par with either of those four.

and yes, i find it compelling that he puts a song on his post-g unit album where he raps drunk and outs himself as an alcoholic. i dont think that makes him a fake conflicted "studio gangsta" or whatever bullshit alex is talking about

travis barker is close enough no?

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f14/snouts/thegame.jpg

(Chorus)
I've become so numb I can't feel you there
Become so tired so much more aware
I'm becoming this all I want to do
Is be more like me and be less like you

hey guys sorry my c&p on this topic from 18 months ago wasn't 100% accurate or contextually appropriate to this specific convo, i was just throwing it out there instead of manually repeating myself and updating it w/ different word choices.

its ok alex, but tell us your updated opinion on Joe Budden vs. The Game

I have downgraded from "OMG" to merely ":)"

I'm trying pretty hard to like this record.
Beats are mostly on point, perhaps on par with Advocate.
Love how he doesn't hide behind an infallible, untouchable persona but instead hints at and touches on vulnerability and 'humanness'.
Rhymes are fairly consistent; and the slow, weighted delivery gives real emotion to a few perfect lines:
'Like I needed my father, but he needed a needle'
Bloody love that one.
But why the fuck does The Game still, after 3 albums, insist on dropping a billion names a song. I hate how he goes so far as to adjust his selection of names to match with the producer or the guest or the theme of each track. RZA, New-York and Wu on the Meth track; Kanye all over the place, on his own prod. and everywhere elsewhere.
Sure, some of the references are decent (if a little cliche or overplayed) - Used to love H.E.R and the such like, but there's just too much for me.
I know he's done this all his career, but can't he at least try to hold an album on his own rather than trying to assert himself as the rapper who's all things to all men?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPqMLmZIWGA&e

"By now you gotta be wet/Like the ocean after the sun sets"

what's wrong with this line

It was just an example of a dumb line that happened to be on at the time, but:

1. The ocean isn't any wetter after the sun sets, "sets" was just apparently the best rhyme he could think of, apparently, for "wet," which is pretty pathetic

2. comparing someone's vadge wetness to the ocean doesn't really contribute anything to your idea of relative wetness, since the ocean isn't actually any wetter than, say, a puddle or a glass of celery soda.

apparently.

Who else would bookend his album with spoken word from another MC?

The fact that DMX--in full-on prayer mode--is the MC makes this one of the best ideas in recent rap history. No hyperbole.

fwiw I'm with j0, I feel like Game is rawer & more compelling in rapping about personal shit. If not as skilled as contempos like Kanye (and that's saying something), he's at least even more candid: if not for the title track on the last record, I don't think Kanye could have gotten away with the considerably tamer "Big Brother," for example.

okay bout to play this now

i just finished writing a long ass review of lax, but lax has way better beats. i thought he seemed kinda like this circus clown type west coast mascot when he was rapping all over these fake dre tracks on doctor's ad. there isn't so much of the psychodrama on lax which is cool, and it gets kind of long but its maybe the most consistent rap non mixtape ive heard this year

good guest spots all over too

Damn, album's alright, but generic west coast beats w/ game not holding his tongue for shit beats the hell outta generic generi-rap beats w/ game just saying not much. Lovin' the Raekwon, Bilal & Common joints tho.

Had to pull out "300 Bars & Runnin'" after this, still the best thing he's done.

lyrics are :(

i like the vibe though

always thought this was the shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5HWvVfo08M

MIRA ME, QUINTON, EL JEFE, SIMON
TRANSLATION: I GET MONEY OFF RINGTONES

I'M A GANGSTER, TELL REMY MARTIN I WANNA FUCK HER
THAT'S WHAT I CALL A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AT THE RUCKER

i don't have LAX on my computer anymore so i'm not sure if my defense of it was as ridiculous as it seems to me now

i never even gave it a second listen and i liked his first two albums quite a bit

i feel like i listened to it a bunch cuz it was a 'professional review assignment' (ha) and i sort of convinced myself that it was better than it was on some contrarian ish

i think it's prob equally as shit as doctor's adv

that joint w/ nas is awesome tho

"Game's Pain" (featuring Keyshia Cole)
"Dope Boys" (featuring Travis Barker)
"My Life" (featuring Lil Wayne)
"Camera Phone" (featuring Ne-Yo)

this has to be one of the worst run of singles off of one major label rap album of the decade right?

i only remember "my life" cause that was the one that got played on the radio in seattle, but it was pretty much an inevitible dead patch whenever it came on

i don't think you need to have heard the game song called "game's pain" featuring keyshia cole, the game song featuring travis barker & the one called "camera phone" featuring ne-yo to know that those are some really shit songs

well, yeah. game+shaffer could be dope but lol at title.

i will still defend dr's ad on the same grounds i defended it then. of course usually i just listen to actual 2001

good thread

is anybody fucking with the purp & patron mix?

do we all agree that The Documentary is awesome?

never that

hahahha yea but you don't like Rick Ross either so I know we're on opposite sides of this one

i remember telling j0rdan s. that i didn't like game, and i explained to deej that it was mostly that his flow's monotonous and boring, but i also pointed out to whiney g. weingarten that i wasn't a fan of the constant name dropping, rest in peace dom passantino

well the name dropping is ridic yea but I like him overall. I think compared to Fiddy's flow his sounds a lot more vibrant than Fiddy's 'black and white' sounding flow (not that that's his fault, post-shooting)

you could prob make a dope game mix if you took selected tracks + random posse cuts/mixtape stuff, but nah

50 never sounded more alive and charismatic than in comparison to Game on their songs together imo

like if "How We Do" was a living thing with a pulse it was rise dramatically every time 50 rapped and then sink down when Game shows back up

http://www.drizzydrake.org/lyrics/game-ft-drake-good-girls-go-bad-lyrics/

what a buncha dorks

RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES

Crickets!

Documentary 3 is pretty good imo

so's Documentary 2!

yep

guy seems like an idiot/off balance, not even sure why I'm posting this stupid attention grab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hIyPPkTl0M

remember when he tried to start a beef with jay z, so weak

he sucks and always has