Please God no: Dylan and McCartney in talks to guest judge "American Idol."

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April 30, 2004

IDOLS ON "IDOL." A couple of 1960s idols may be coming to "American Idol." Producers of the Fox talentfest have confirmed to Entertainment Weekly magazine that Paul
McCartney and Bob Dylan are in line to become guest judges next season. Dylan's reps are said to be further along in negotiations, says Newsday's Robert Kahn, though
McCartney is confirmed to be "interested." "We're obviously getting huge attention from major songwriters," says executive producer Nigel Lythgoe.

newsday.com

― shookout (shookout), Sunday, 2 May 2004 11:53 (twenty years ago) link

"We're obviously getting huge attention from major songwriters,"

I initially read that as 'alienation'

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 May 2004 12:04 (twenty years ago) link

I'd love to see that red-haired guy singing "Subterranean Homesick Blues"

― dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Sunday, 2 May 2004 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

McCartney is not a surprise...but Dylan? I guess after Victoria's Secret anything's possible.

― shookout (shookout), Sunday, 2 May 2004 12:25 (twenty years ago) link

Cue eight million tedious "Dylan shows Simon Cowell that a TRUE artist doesn't have to abide by some limey's stupid rules about music" articles.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 May 2004 12:49 (twenty years ago) link

This is hilarious. Oh please, let it be so.

― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Sunday, 2 May 2004 12:50 (twenty years ago) link

I would totally watch a Dylan episode.

― NA (Nick A.), Sunday, 2 May 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago) link

two more reasons for al quaeda airlines to start flying again

― queen godawlimgihty, Sunday, 2 May 2004 12:53 (twenty years ago) link

For Dylan, could it really be any weirder than, say, appearing in a Victoria's Secret commercial?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 2 May 2004 12:59 (twenty years ago) link

"two more reasons for al quaeda airlines to start flying again"
say WHAT?

― lovebug starski, Sunday, 2 May 2004 13:06 (twenty years ago) link

Cue "JUDAS" cries the world over.

― NUXX (NUXX), Sunday, 2 May 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago) link

the dylan one is going to be HILARIOUS.

dylan is just an eccentric old guy now who does whatever he wants. leave him alone.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 2 May 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

I'm surprised Lou Reed hasn't shown up as an American Idol judge yet. He's always had a hack's heart, regardless how many oh-so-contrarian turds he drops into critics' laps.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 2 May 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago) link

I can't believe it, but you, sir, are OTM(!)

― sexyDancer, Sunday, 2 May 2004 13:46 (twenty years ago) link

"do the ostrich"!!

fun fact: my mom's boss ran pickwick records back when lou worked there.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 2 May 2004 14:01 (twenty years ago) link

I'd rather see Idol cancelled. Then again, since it's an atrocious show where talent is second fiddle to "marketability", it should be anyway.

Anybody with a halfway decent voice is told they sound too "Broadway", in lieu of melisma-abusing assembly-line sounding pop singers.

― uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

i say please god YES!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 2 May 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

Someone call Lita Ford and tell her she's gotta get in on this PRONTO.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 2 May 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

have Ozzy on too and make one of the contestants sing their famous 80's duet.

You will be able to hear the cringing across America as if it were a thunderous herd of buffalos.

― uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link

Saw the vid for Lita's "Gotta Let Go" on VH1 Classic the other day....great dumb riff, but I found it very hard to believe I used to really like it.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

I find her rants on how "mad" she was that "rock 'n roll died" when glam rock died to be totally amusing. As if glamorized or overtly pompous rock music was the only form of rock 'n roll music to exist. Once again, a genre that had very good origins, started with neat ideas and bands, then it become overcommercialized and turned into crap in the 80s by bands like Quiet Riot (Slade Jr.)

― uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

Dylan on prime-time television? How excellent would that be? Maybe he could get his own show.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

i've never watched this, but you can be certain i would not miss a single episode should this come to fruition.

― frankE (frankE), Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:11 (twenty years ago) link

It would rule if Dylan tore everybody to shit on the show.

― uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

he'll just smoke a lot of pot beforehand and grin quietly the whole time.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

I still can't believe an ex-Laker Girl who turned into a below-average pop singer is still one of the judges.

― uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

i'm really looking forward to this. it could be like the match game in the '70s -- everybody stoned off their asses and laughing at some grand cosmic inside joke the rest of us are too square to get. then again, i don't think mccartney has one strand of irony anywhere in his dna.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

I'm really mad at this thread because I want to roll around on the floor laughing, thinking about Dylan judging American Idol. I'm at work though. Fuck you, thread.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

HOW DOES IT FEEL? HOW DOES IT FEEEEE-YAAAAA-EEEY-AAA-AAA-ALLL?

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

And Lou Reed can't be on this show because he's a one-hit wonder. Just like Neil Young.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago) link

I've even heard Faith No More referred to as "one-hit wonders" on this one site. That made me giggle, thus proving the irrelevance of said word :)

(aka, they may have only had one HUGE hit, altho falling to pieces charted too I think, but they had a plethora of amazing albums)

― uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

Does "We Care A Lot" count as a hit?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno how popular it ever got.

It certainly counts as "kickass song" though.

I just always found it amusing when bands that survived for a score of albums afterwards whom weren't really trying to be radio darlings and just had a brief dance with the mainstream get called "one hit wonders", like the Flaming Lips. Of course it's technically true, but it doesn't mean anything, especially since the album that followed The REal Thing kicked all ass.

― uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:31 (twenty years ago) link

I imagine that many of the artists that you consider one-hit wonders had many albums you've never heard of after they broke. I suppose that they aren't great artists whose work will withstand the tests of time like Faith No More, though. "Midlife Crisis" was a minor hit too.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:43 (twenty years ago) link

Well, even "Cup of Sorrow" charted on the rock charts.

Even Lou Reed would be considered to be a quality artist by many, though (I don't know his work, so I can't comment for myself, though), if Velvet Underground counted.

― uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

oohhh when that heroin is my bloo-wuh-wuh-wud and that blooooood is my vei-yay-yains!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

McCartney might not have a lick of irony in him but he DOES have enough THC to make a small nation lay down and relax for several hours.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 2 May 2004 20:28 (twenty years ago) link

Next in line to guest-judge American Idol:

Lemmy Kilmister
John Lydon
Henry Rollins
Rob Halford
Courtney Love
Elmo
Cookie Monster
Dick Cheney

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 2 May 2004 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

How 'bout Billy Idol haha!!

― brg30 (brg30), Sunday, 2 May 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

How's McCartney going to judge someone else? He has to get over himself first.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 2 May 2004 23:47 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not sure why anybody's looking forward to winning the competition. They'll be forgotten in a few years.

Kelly and Justin's movie is already in our bargain bin at work for 5.99 (and so is, deservingly, Mariah carey's Glitter).

― uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 23:54 (twenty years ago) link

Are you suggesting that From Justin to Kelly is undeserving of the bargain bin?

And....5.99? When did the bargain bin become so damn expensive?

― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Monday, 3 May 2004 01:45 (twenty years ago) link

of course it deserves it. I was merely trying to point out the longevity of American Idol winners.

Justin Guarini's career ended before it started. Kelly Clarkson has met success but she's on the way out unless she releases another hit album or, more likely, finds some way to appear in the news, like getting arrested for playing badminton naked.

― uh, Monday, 3 May 2004 02:46 (twenty years ago) link

I can just imagine Dylan judging on AI, "well, oh, um, hmmm, let's see, ... see Jasmine, you started out a bit pitchy there, eh, ummmmmmmm ... my father, you know, he also sang pitchy ... "

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 3 May 2004 02:58 (twenty years ago) link

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