No U Turn - C or D

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cos Guncheck is awesome.

ejad (daje), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic until it became a sonic straitjacket for drum'n'bass.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes to that, Alex.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, seconded. nightmares of distorted basslines from 1995.

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Squadron ergo classic.

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

the TORQUE cd had a WARNING label on it for goddsakes.

WARNING CONTAINS TECHNOLOGY BY ED RUSH

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah...classic. mothership, check me out, cells (remix), mad different methods, amtrak, mutant remix, crystal, liberty 1, copies...so many great tunes.

i only indirectly blame theme for drum n bass becoming stagnant: the no u turn tracks, although very dark, were often also humourous / absurd, and had a kind of minimal funk to their darkness. It was the pretenders who tried relentlessly to make something similar (technical itch, dom n roland, a thousand others) who deserve the flak.

paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

torque (the mix anyway) is one of the 100 or so greatest records ever made.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

it's dense in a way shitty post-98 dnb isn't.

ejad (daje), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

it's got this frenzy to it...i listen to it while driving at night and i just feel like revving the car up as fast as i can and just plowing through everything.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

man now i have to go searching for my torque cd

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

found it.

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my, the artwork.

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Just heard Mothership on an old mix a few weeks ago with my dad in the car, and was torn between skipping past it and cranking it + following Strongo's impulse above.

Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

(Dad & I am alive = the former won out)

Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

(argh ARE alive)

Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The late darkcore ("Lost", "Bludclotartattack", various Sykes productions)/early jungle ("Wheel Up", "Soundboy") No U Turn releases are uniformly excellent. I differ with Paulhw in that I think No U Turn deserves as much blame as the copyists for pigeonholing THEMSELVES. That said Torque is stunning. It's also one of those records you hear and go, 'kay I really don't need to hear another record like this one again.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree with alex i think but i can't remember what Torque sounds like. its heavy shit innit?

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

the culprits were renegade hardware. they fucked everything up.

no u turn is so good it's silly. my favorite = "amtrack"

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

no wait it was ram trilogy that did it. no wait it was bad company and their stupid logo.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

torque sounded like source direct tracks made by people who didn't give a fuck about photek.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"the bassline wasn't a musical element...it was a HUGE FUCKING SLAB OF CONCRETE FILLING UP YER INSIDES".

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

classic classic classic. if i kept one, torque would easily rank in my top 100 of all time (a la strongo). the mix cd is fantastic indeed. no u turn is always summer music for me (in a nicely perverse way).

tricky disco, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I can appreciate your point Alex...
I found a mix by Nico called "Acolyte" a few months ago, which goes from "bludclot artattack" rave stuff stuff through to their later minimal tech-step stuff (like "cells"). Does anyone else have this? The mixing is a bit average, but it's fascinating to hear the progression...

paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i can kind of imagine it's a bit like that formation 4CD comp that came out last year. when DJ SS sat down to mix disc three...didn't he wonder why this stuff was so much more exciting than the stuff he was currently releasing?! i suppose it'd be one thing if all the producers disowned their early tracks or something.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

(haha will we all ever stop being affronted by modern drum & bass)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

well someone else here just tried to convince me it was gonna be BIG this year and i just sighed

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i just read the last issue of knowledge at work this week and was mildly surprised to find that kevin martin does reviews for them

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i find your mild surprise amusing

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

well it was a very boring workday

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Prototype better

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

not

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

'Subway' is my favourite Ed Rush track

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Although not strictly a No U-Turn release, the Techsteppin' LP on Emotif contained many of the dubplates that Trace rinsed on his KoolFM show from late spring 1995. Skyscraper's (ie Trace's) 'Liberty One' and 'Mach II', Ed Rush - Check Me Out and Doc Scott - Machines were the first siblings of Mutant Jazz remix.
Also that Ed Rush track "What's Up" on No U with the black and yellow cover is still completely menace-full.

tinman, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)


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