What is the Most Advant-Garde Record Evah?

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Is this going to be John Cage? Come on, what record made you sit with mouth agape as you were shocked to the core by the unbelievable fuckedupedness of what you were hearing?...Just plain fucking wierd,, wierd, wierd...

― The Walrus (Miss Lonelyhearts), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

C/D: "Avant garde" as synonym for "weird"

― Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Reynols "Blank Tapes"

― Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The Seahorse - Do It Yourself

― de, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

bon jovi "slippery when wet"

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

What do you mean?
The strict translation of "Avant-garde" is "OMG weird shit"

― de, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The Shaggs

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

But, avant-garde is ever-changing. What's avant-garde yesterday is often times de rigeur today.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

It has to have that certain je ne sais quoi.

― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously though some things stay weird.

― de, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

my serious answer is either Flux of Pink Indians The Fucking Pricks or Alvin Lucier's I Am Sitting in a Room.

― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Jean-Paul Sartre est mort.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

if they stay weird then they are not the forward guard of anything...are they?

― mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Marcel Marceau!

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

He beats john cage by a mile with that record he made.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Le Sacre du Printemps. I was listening to the Stravinsky conducted recordings the other day and thinking I don't care how much the innovations in this peice have been integrated into music, this still sounds unbelievable insane and unique.

― de, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not an answer to the thread title, it's just a note how some avant-garde can stay avant-garde (despite Disney's best efforts)

― de, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to say Oval Commers just because there is so much complexity and detail in the noise, it really does take my breath away.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

(Well several other things by Lucier sound, and look, way "weirder" than I Am Sitting in a Room, I'd venture)

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I've heard more messed up crazy shit but generally if I don't like it I don't pay close enough attention, never really get inside of it.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Lay 'em on me, t\'\'t. I have Music on a Long thin Wire and, ah, the bird one. I love them both but neither of them transfixed me and chilled me like Room did the first time I heard it. Then again, I haven't listened to it all the way through in probably eight years, so maybe it would sound like Jessica Simpson or something now, who knows?

― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Bro' - man, it's not that I'm capable of exactly "laying them on", but wot I had in mind was, recalling the one time I saw Lucier live, that some of his brainwaves-into-sounds conjuring-thons appared rather unfathomable - compared to I'm Sitting..., that "sounded like music to my ears" the first time I heard it.
I really don't remember any titles of the brainwavy pieces; and the program notes of yore I'm unable to find, I'm afraid :(

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to a George Crumb birthday bash a couple years back and George played a gong that was submerged in a big washbasin filled with water while he yelled the name of his dog very hypnotically. His dog's name is Yoda. Not bad for an old man. But, um, that's not a record. It was in a church. And I almost went and saw Mortiis that night instead, but I'm kinda glad I didn't.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Tim Buckley's Starsailor takes the cake for me. And I've listened to Cage's Empty Words in it's entirety! Buckley's vocals are just so strange (aside from the poppier songs, like Song for the Siren) and it's really... just... weird...

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Not an answer, either, but the first time I heard Nurse With Wound's "Dueling Banjos" it was sure an ear-opener. I thought I'd discovered the last word in fucked wierdness. This was years before "Damita Jo" of course.

― briania, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I avant-garde any suggestions

Fnar!

― Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Trashmen "Surfin' Bird"

― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Anything Aaliyah did with Timbaland. It was so ahead of its time it went to the future and came back in a time machine like Michael J. Fox and played everyone the music that their kids were going to love in 50 years, except that the music was so good that the kids (defying all parameters of space and time) loved it now, thereby short-circuiting the wormhole and altering the entire time stream.

― spittle (spittle), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone hear the Field Recordings from the Maryland State Fair CDR thing?

― GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a friend who was friend who was a fine-arts student and he made a record with instrument he had invented. It was terrible. But very avant-garde

― The Walrus (Miss Lonelyhearts), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

'I had a friend who was a friend' -- great name for avant-garde record, retarded punctution. Goo Goo Ga Goob.

― Mike Guy (Miss Lonelyhearts), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Howbout Christian Marclay's "Record Without a Cover", which (yep!) had no cover. And no music. And no grooves! The idea being that the many scratches it accumulated as a result of being stored in racks next to other records (which DID have covers) - those scratches BECAME the music.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The only one I can suggest here is "Electronic Sound" George Harrison.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 07:49 (twenty-one years ago)

That Marclay record, seems to me, would rather be The Record With The Most Advant-Garde Cover Evah.

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Tony Conrad - 4 Violins. Still can't quite get to grips with it.

― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Double Live Gonzo!

― John Fredland (jfredland), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard some John Oswald once and it hurt my head.

― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

There's probably better suggestions but I found Confield by Autechre to be one of the most...err.. emmm... uuuhhh?! kinda things I ever heard.

It was so avant garde it's catalogue number was WARP128. That was in 2001 and the rest of the Warp catalogue is still only just catching up witht hat number.

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"Crossing the Rad Sea with the Advants"

― prostpilso (nestmanso), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I picked up a copy of Electronic Sound last night.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

BM012 Moz / Thurston Moore "Tribute to MLK Jr." CD edition of 500, pressed on "fan cds", b&w inserts on transparence paper. Plastic cd sleeve. The long awaited split cd of Thurston Moore (sonic youth, foot, maleslut, etc) & Moz. Thurston brings us a track made with an electric pencil sharpener recorded by Jim O'Rourke. Moz remixes that track and also belts out one of his own. Did we mention this is a tribute to MLK Jr.?

― GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I knew someone would bring up Timbaland.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Kraftwerk - Autobahn

― eleki-san (eleki-san), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

On any thread where John Cage is one possible response, Timbaland is another.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

All threads end with "The Fall" (Hegelian synthesis).

― prostpilso (nestmanso), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Before I even clicked on the thread, I was thinking Record Without a Cover. Guess I'll settle for seconding it.

― Lee G (Lee G), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.317x.com/albums/v/variouslsd/reduced.gif

― ddb, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Designers looking for something to steal from take note of the LSD cover.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

BM037 Pengo 2 "Until I Find A Real Man" CASSETTE edition of 50, inserts b&w. In the wakes of all the sequel noise bands floating around these days, one night in Miami someone decided to start Pengo 2, this is their only known recording, as it seems it was short lived. Closest to monks chanting i think??!??!

- a brief sacrifice of robotic bird squawk and electronic bagpipe humm. - i am cancer zine

― GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Anything Aaliyah did with Timbaland. It was so ahead of its time it went to the future and came back in a time machine like Michael J. Fox and played everyone the music that their kids were going to love in 50 years, except that the music was so good that the kids (defying all parameters of space and time) loved it now, thereby short-circuiting the wormhole and altering the entire time stream.

Hyperbole to the max. I love timbaland but lets not go overboard - it was a more syncopated, southern bounce version of what Dr. Dre had been doing.

― djdee2005, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Pengo rules
http://www.arcade-classics.com/pengo.html

― wetmink (wetmink), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The Flaming Lips - Zaireeka and Sonic Youth - Goodbye 20th Century

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll go with either Rock, Rot, & Rule or the first Neil Hamburger l.p.

― Mike Dixon, Thursday, 6 May 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

This week, my answer is Steve Reich's "Four Organs". Next week, I reserve the right to alter my answer without warning.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 6 May 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

while it now seems rather tame, the first time i heard danielson family in high school, i was pretty astounded at its fuckedupedness

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 6 May 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

It's got to be something by Celine Dion. She's like the Yma Sumac of the 90/00's

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 6 May 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The White Album?

No, really.

― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 6 May 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

All hail the king. Who all up in this bitch owns "Here Is My Spoon"?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 May 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

me. And the "chicken" 7"

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 May 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

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