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There are a few questions about Yoko in the archive, and a few people seem to have said a search and destroy for her stuff would be good. I agree, and as there hasn't already been one, here it is.

I apologise if I've searched the archive inadequately, in which case a thread on cover versions of yoko's songs would be good (or on yoko cover versions, but I don't think I've ever heard her doing one).

Discuss her stuff with John if you must, I'm more interested in her solo offerings.

So... enlighten me. Specifically, is 'Season of Glass' worth splashing out a few of my hard-earned pennies on? And didn't she do an electronic album in the 80s? What is that called? What's it like?

For my money: Search - Approximately Infinite Universe; Rising; Walking On Thin Ice (the compilation and the song); Its Allright (I See Rainbows)

Destroy - most of her last album, although there were one or two standout tracks

Not sure, even after several listens - Plastic Ono Band, the 'Rising' remix album.


As for cover versions of her songs, I've heard 'walking on thin ice' attempted by Fuzzbox (what can you say about that, hmmm...??), and Galaxie 500's version of 'Listen, The Snow Is Falling' - the song that got me into Galaxie 500. Are there any more?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"Walking on Thin Ice" Elvis Costello and the attractions.

"Sisters O Sisters" - The Sultans of Ping

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"Sisters O Sisters" - The Sultans of Ping

oo err... i can only imagine what that might sound like.

is it any good?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"Notes & Chords Mean Nothing to Me" by Redd Kross = CLASSIC

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

It sounds like Niall singing on top of the Yoko record, funnily enough...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

the Child Molestors' Don't Worry Kyoko, Mommy's Only Looking for her Hand in the Snow

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"Notes & Chords Mean Nothing to Me" by Redd Kross = CLASSIC

Err....I defer now to the Ono heads out there. I believe this is a Yoko Ono cover...am I right?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Experimental stuff - I'd give the nod to Plastic Ono Band

Rock - I like either Aproximately Infinite Universe or Season of Glass best, depending on the day.

I think AIU is better musically, but all that early 70s sis and bro stuff gets really tiring. SOG is a baffling album and definitely worth the money. It sometimes crosses the line of good taste (starting with the cover and becoming most cringe worthy with Sean's appearance), but despite what you might think, it's not one long dirge. There are moments of happiness and moments of anger (sometimes directed at John). This can be jarring at first, but ultimately makes it a far more interesting album, because the emotions are honest. The most amazing part is that you could listen to this album being unaware of the circumstances under which it was made, and still conclude it's one of her best set of songs.


"A Story" is also pretty good. It didn't get released when it was made in 1974, but appeared in the box set in 1992, and I think you can get it by itself now. It has early versions of some of the SOG songs, along with other good stuff.

Covers - there was an album called "Every Man has a Woman who Loves Him" which was all covers of her songs. That's where the Costello cover first appeared. As I recall, it also had a very nice Roberta Flack version of "No one can see me like you do" from Season of Glass.

chëshy f cät, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and....

"Fly" is worth mentioning, if only for the first side. "Midsummer New York" is one of her best rockers, and "Mind Train" is an uncanny trip into krautrock territory. If the album didn't take a nosedive from that point on, it would be her best....

chëshy f cät, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Plastic Ono Band is one of my favorite things to listen to. I haven't heard Fly but would love to. I don't know her pop stuff very well, though I know "What A Bastard the World Is" is an incredible song

Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan wrote: the Child Molestors' Don't Worry Kyoko, Mommy's Only Looking for her Hand in the Snow

also covered by the B-52s, Tater Totz, and They Might Be Giants (the TMBG cover apparently was the first song John & John recorded together, and they tried to imitate Rod Serling's voice for the spoken "don't worry" bits.)

Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Yoko's Plastic Ono Band is IMMENSE, and I don't know any other records like it. Fly is awfully good in places too--very Can-like, actually. Beyond that, use extreme caution.

In terms of the direct Lennon collaborations, I'm pretty fond of Unfinished Music No. 2: Life With the Lions, which is a straight-up experimental record, and lots of the experiments work.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah: what he ^ said!

POB and Fly are great! (OK, the second disc of "Fly" is a bit tough at first, but you could say the same about Tago Mago ). Most everything on Live Peace In Toronto is available elsewhere in better versions. Two Virgins is abysmally-recorded let's-drop-acid-and-pretend-to-be-children-pretending-to-be-adults stuff: fitfully amusing, although the cover art is funnier. The half-hour freakout on Life With The Lions is truly impressive in stretches (like when J & Y manage to converge on the same note) but you probably won't play it more than once a year. Never heard Some Time In New York City , can't remember what Approx. Inf. Univ. is like (wish I hadn't sold it/will probably reacquire someday) and that's all I know.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Plastic Ono Band is one of my top 10 all-time records. At least, that's what I wrote on that most recent list-your-top-10 thread, so I'm sticking to it. Brilliant record, "Why" sounds like Gang of Four eight years ahead of schedule.

I like all her records. I even like Feeling the Space, great coked-out 70s studio cat vibe on that one.

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"Midsummer New York" was also covered by a San Francisco group called Pink Section, but this may not be available anywhere besides my vinyl collection.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"Season of Glass" is a great record. My favorite part is the weird dissonance between the pop Phil Spector production and the pure emotional desolation of Yoko's voice and lyrics. Disconcerting.

Capote (Truman Capote), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I've always loved Yoko's stuff since hearing Open your box, Don't worry Kyoko and Who has seen the wind at the tender age of 10. I think Rising and Blueprint for a sunrise are her best albums-she gets better as she gets older !

Fishman, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think "Season of Glass" is great. Some of the production might seem a bit corny and dated, but it works, especially the horn section on 'Goodbye Sadness'. Overall, it's full of lovely sad songs.

I put it on one time while working at a record store and small child began crying within the first couple tracks.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

approximately infinite universe is like roxy music meets 2nd-wave feminist protopunk ON ACID.

":-)"

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Search this

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000009OF.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif

(and Rising) (and all the Lennon collaboration albums)

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

YOKO ONO IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING AWFUL!!!

Haven't you guys ever heard side two of Live Peace in Toronto???

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes. I like to play it full on loud to make squares like you go away : )

brg30 (brg30), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, go back to 1969 where you belong, fool!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"don't worry kyoko" (the live version, at least) has one of the greatest guitar riffs of all time. period!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I think a lot of people's only exposure to Yoko's experimental side is the Live Peace album, sadly. I think it's an awful performance (and John's side isn't much better).

Now, the big band version of Don't Worry Kyoko on the Live Jam album that comes with Sometime In NYC, on the other hand, is fan-fucking-tastic.

chëshy f cät, Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

YOKO ONO IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING AWFUL!!!

it was inevitable, really, wasn't it?

other than that comment, its nice to actually mention this artist and not be met with the usual wails of derision - often the people who make this sort of comment haven't listened to a great deal of her output. its wrong to judge her on just one album - particularly because her albums vary in style as much as any other artist i can think of.

i dug out 'approximately infinite universe' again last night - i'd forgotten how wonderful it was. didn't know there was a box set..

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 6 May 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

If not for Yoko Ono, I wouldn't be gainfully employed today. It's true. Rewind back to 1991. I was working at LIFE Magazine (now defunkt...though I swear, that was not my doing). I was working on a book project with the then photo editor. The project was titled "The Meaning of LIFE" (geddit?) It was to be a photo essay with selected blurbs from people --- from your local butcher to celebrities like Sinead O'Connor and randy Italian porn star-turned-politician Ciccolina Kuhns the like -- pontificating on their personal impressions on the meaning of life. Yes, very pretentious, I know -- it wasn't my idea. In any event, my job was to collect head shot photos for the contributor's page in the back of the book and work out publishing rights when other work was cited (in other words, when a contributor wrote something like, "I think David Coverdale of Whitesnake said it best when he sang in 'Still of the Night'...." etc. etc.) As it turned out, one of the contributors was Yoko Ono. In her blurb, she decided to -- WAIT FOR IT -- cite lyrics by her husband. So, I dutifully rang up his publishing company (I forget who -- it might've been Michael Jackson's company now that I think about it -- doesn't he still own that stuff?) to get some quotes from them. There was going to be an initial print run of X thousand copies, and then a secondary printing of Y thousand copies. So, sometime shortly afterwards, the company faxed me back a price quote, which I dutifully submitted to the editor and that was basically that. He figured out the budget, the deadline was met, and -- seemingly -- end of story. Not so fast. The publishing company representing Lennon's lyrics then sent me a second fax, quoting another big ass amount of money for the second run. My goose is seemngly cooked. I report to my editor, and he -- somewhat understandably -- goes into orbit. There was no more money for that. Why hadn't I gotten that secondary price quote before deadline? etc. etc. Bottom line -- he was very unhappy. I was clearly never going to work in this town again. "Well, we're just going to have to remove Yoko's contribution!" This was a big thing for him, as he was an aging baby boomer with a big thing for the Beatles, and getting Yoko on board had been a real coup. I was crestfallen. Losing my first real job outside of college, letting everybody down, etc. So, my editor calls Yoko to tell her the bad news. Yoko simply says, "oh nevermind that, I'll pay the difference." Yoko was intrigued enough with the idea of the book, that a few paltry thousand dollars wasn't going to lose her any sleep. So, Yoko paid the publishing company, her selection remained in the book, the editor was happy and I didn't get fired. Yay.

Side note: When I called Ciccolina's representatives to get her head shot, they put me on the phone with the woman herself, who spent most of the time giggling. A week or so later, an envelope from her people showed up. Not only did it included a head shot, but nine or ten glossy photos of Ciccolina in a variety of lurid poses. Easily the highlight of the project for me.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

that is a great story!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'll pay the difference" = she would be getting the dosh back eventually. But cool, nonetheless.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
I'm listening to Blueprint for a Sunrise right now .. I don't get why the reviews were lukewarm ... although it's my first listening, and I'm not really listening to the words .. it's a really great record by all-the-shit-being-churned-out-these-days standards. It may not be up to Yoko's other work .. but I'm really liking it.. anyone besides Fishman wanna weigh in ?

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice thread- I'll mention 'toilet piece', which is on the 'fluxus anthology' record.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 28 May 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

douglas absolutely otm

(Jon L), Friday, 28 May 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

second Douglas being OTM. the first Yoko record i got into was Life with Lions. still not sure why, but the second side does me right. being a Joe Jones fan helps with most of Fly's more ludicrous sides.

beta bandy, Friday, 28 May 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
I'm starting a Yoko Ono cover band with my wife and a friend of mine (working name = "Three Virgins" duh!). What should we cover?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

the two we definitely want to do so far are "Mind Train" and "I Feel Like Smashing My Face in a Clear Glass Window".

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
Yoko's been added to the Vincent Gallo ATP line-up if anyone's interested.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

I like that 'Smashing My Face' song.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Mystical Beast blog has a pretty faithful period psyche cover of Yoko's 'Why' up, that record looks incredible!

http://mysticalbeast.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_mysticalbeast_archive.html

listened to Two Virgins again last night actually. it's fun enough, though Life With The Lions is the jawdropper.

Plastic Ono Band and Fly are still so ahead.

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...
shakey what happened to your ono cover band? I would go see that

thanks to jody I'm listening to approximately infinite universe right now for the first time and it's incredible.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 14 November 2005 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...
So could someone recommend me something in Yoko's catalog that resembles "Walking On Thin Ice?" I absolutely love that one, but I'm not sure she did anything else very much like it in the bouncy-disco-bass-with-other-random-sounds vein. I've listened to Season of Glass, and I was really only grabbed by the 1-2-3 punch of "I Don't Know Why," "Extension," and "No, No, No." But still no disco-y bass. Did she ever do anything else like that?

matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 16 March 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

"Kiss Kiss Kiss" off of "Double Fantasy"...?

since I haven't chimed in on this thread yet I'd just like to say that "What a Bastard the World Is" is one of the best songs ever written.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 March 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

oh I guess I did chime in on this thread already... as to my Three Virgins project, I'm still looking for a drummer! May have to resort to a drum machine.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 March 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Re: Yoko Ono covers, there's an unreleased Nilsson LP called "Harry Does Yoko" that's available bootleg-like. The prospect of it sounds awesome, yes, but it's not fantastic. Sounds like Harry did it in the early 80s with the cheapest MIDI equipment he could find. I'm not sure if he ever intended for it to be released. Kinda comes across as a private joke between Harry and someone else. Maybe Yoko?

Tyler W (tylerw), Thursday, 16 March 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

"Maybe Yoko?"

or Phil Spector

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 March 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

The 18-song distillation of Onobox is bloody essential. Now I'm quite curious about Season of Glass and POB.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 March 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Season of Glass is... weird. I can see how people dig it as a strange artifact (similar perhaps to my love of Neil Young's "Trans"), but it isn't my favorite (that would be "Fly").

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 March 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, parts of Season of Glass sound like the theme song to Mr. Belvedere and then there are spots (like the three tracks listed above) that sound angry and bit rougher, but overall it is weird. Thanks for the recommendation of "Kiss Kiss Kiss" Shakey. I'll have to find that one.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I think there's another one of her songs on Double Fantasy songs that's kinda disco-ey, but I can't remember which one (sorry)

The Dirtbombs do a pretty good "Kiss Kiss Kiss" cover.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Listening to a clip on Amazon reveals "Kiss Kiss Kiss" to be just the sound I was looking for.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

"Give Me Something" – great tune. The sequencing of Double Fantasy is often better than individual tunes.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 17 March 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, yes it does. Never mind.

hobart paving, Monday, 2 April 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

I like it a lot, esp the Spritualized track.

She is called ONO now.

PJ Miller, Monday, 2 April 2007 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

I absolutely love Yoko Ono.

Search: I Felt Like Smashing My Head.., You're the One, Sleepless Night (BRILLIANT sarcastic song,) Kiss Kiss Kiss, I'm Your Angel, Midsummer New York, Kite Song, Looking Out From My Hotel Window, Death of Samantha, and most definitely the Peaches remix of Kiss Kiss Kiss. Of Montreal covered "I Felt Like.." to good effect as well.

Finefinemusic, Monday, 2 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

favorite yoko cover:


http://www.geocities.jp/paganrail/exmusic/photo5-6/nirvana2.jpg

scott seward, Monday, 2 April 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha, get it? she did the cover. sorry, i was just listening to it this morning and i saw this thread.

scott seward, Monday, 2 April 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

i really like fly and approximately infinite universe (i used to have sealed original copies that matador records used to sell? i don't think i'm making that up, but it sounds like something i would dream) and the lennon/ono collabs, i never really delved much further. if i had to name one thing that i like above all other things it would be the song "move on fast" with that beatles riff and just total full-on punk raging. crass should have covered that song. i used to play the 45 over and over and over. if you didn't know it was from 72 or whenever and the cover were in black & white it could actually BE a crass records release:


http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/kirkland/266/apple/1853ps.jpg

scott seward, Monday, 2 April 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

For donkeys years, you couldn't give the Yoko albums away.

Then one day, they suddenly became valuable.

Mark G, Monday, 2 April 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

I can't believe I put Blueprint for a Sunrise on the "Destroy" list - it just needs perseverance. Nowhere near as good as Rising, as far as her recent output goes, but still great.

I HAVE to get Yes, I'm a Witch.

hobart paving, Monday, 2 April 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...
I have something that iTunes tells me is Blueprint for a Sunrise, but it came in the sleeve of a book about Yoko Ono and only has three tracks on it. I've had poor luck finding out what it is, other than the fact that it is wonderful. The first track feels like Hallogallo, but it kind of swings around, I wanna say Translinear-Light in places too, just something about the chokingly liquid production. Mmm.

But yeah, does anyone know what this thing is, I would probably say its the best thing I've ever heard by her.

I know, right?, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

It is indeed a little insert CD that came with YESYOKOONO, the book that accompanied her art tour from a few years back. I still have it sealed in the book for some reason! I always forget about that poor disc. It's good, aye?

Search:
You're the One
I Felt Like Smashing My Face In A Clear Glass Window
Sleepless Night (wonderfully sarcastic)
Death of Samantha
What Did I Do?
Looking Over From My Hotel Window
Midsummer New York
What a Bastard The World Is
Now or Never (the Yoko folk protest song!)
The Kite Song
She Gets Down on Her Knees
Kiss Kiss Kiss
No No No
I'm Your Angel
Walking on Thin Ice

Covers:
Of Montreal - I Felt Like Smashing My Face In A Clear Glass Window

Remixes:
Peaches - Kiss Kiss Kiss

Destroy:
All those who say "Yoko sucks" because "she yodels" who obviously haven't heard a single song I mentioned, possibly save Kiss Kiss Kiss's "mota...mota!"s (Japanese for more? harder? faster? I don't know.)

Finefinemusic, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, I did this twice. I suck.

Finefinemusic, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

I posted and forgot. Thank you finefinemusic wherever you are, and take that cd out of the paper, it's incredible. Her most atmospheric record I think. Very krauty and velvety.

I know, right?, Monday, 26 November 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago)

dontworrydontworrydontworrydontworrydontworrydontworrydontworrydontworry kyokooooooooooooo!

I know, right?, Monday, 26 November 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago)

When I was a kid (and very much into Weird Al), I used to play the b-sides of my Mom's John Lennon singles. The Yoko sides were always so cool. "O Sanity" is just over a minute long and totally fucking awesome.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the song "Coffin Car" either. It's the one really punk music moment off the otherwise not so interested Feeling the Space.

Aside from the obvious early records, and later singles, I have great love for her 90s album Rising. It opens with a metal song co-written by Sean called "Warzone" and is followed by a bunch of weird funky pop that always hit me like a Sinead record with a singer who can't sing (even though Yoko CAN sing--she just sometimes chooses not to, right?).

I got to see her artwork at the MOMA in SF a few years back. Great show, and the YES book is a must have. I would own that over 2/3 of her albums. She's still way ahead of her time. Genius.

Nate Carson, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

I love the ladder with the little sign that says "yes"

I know, right?, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago)

I wrote an essay for art history last year about how "cut piece" deconstructs our notion of the nude by recontextualising it in a manner that points out the most disturbing aspects of the traditional male gaze. My lecturer likes Kenneth Clarke. I didn't get a very good mark. It was supposed to be about the representation of the nude in history. Sometimes I could scream.

I know, right?, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

I posted and forgot. Thank you finefinemusic wherever you are, and take that cd out of the paper, it's incredible. Her most atmospheric record I think. Very krauty and velvety.

― I know, right?, Monday, November 26, 2007 7:14 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I posted and forgot too! I will dig the CD out of the book finally. The book was on my bookshelf and fell a few months ago, and as I watched it happen I yelled "Yoko, oh no!" to which my boyfriend cracked up. Whoops.

Having listened to Yes, I'm A Witch more recently, the Shitake Monkey remix of O'Oh is very pleasant.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 17:31 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

Has anyone heard the new Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band - Between My Head And The Sky? I just caught Yoko and Sean on The View doing a piano ballad that was very affecting and reminiscent of the early stuff. The new Band has Sean Lennon, Cornelius, Yuka Honda, Daniel Carter(?!), and Erik Friedlander among others. The few samples I've found sound intriguing, like they might be going for a 21st Century Fly.

Pigbin Josh (herb albert), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago)

I fucking love this album. And I wasn't particularly a fan before so I'm not (too) biased either.

And FWIW, I interviewed her recently for Stool Pigeon: I guess the intro is a bit of a blustering review of sorts.

I guess the Yoko haters will say well she's just in the same room as a load of good musicians but then you could say that about Grace Jones on Warm Leatherette, Bobby Gillespie on XTRMNTR. But on the other hand you could say it about James Brown or Mark E Smith or any other good band leader who encourages musicians to take bigger leaps while not being particularly 'musical' in their own right.

(I know that Brown plays a mean keyboard, I just mean in comparison to most of the people he worked with.)

Doran, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

Brown's keyboard playing is laughable. And when I say laughable I literally mean the other musicians in his band laughed at him when he played.

the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

That doesn't mean it wasn't occasionally shit hot though. Plus that's my point anyway, non-musician as a facilitator.

Doran, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

sure, I gotcha

the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

(altho I think Yoko's skills are seriously underestimated - she is def. a fluent piano player. her singing voice is limited, but she does a lot with it. I loves her!)

the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

Approximately Infinite Universe – yes?

Brown's keyboard playing is laughable

waht

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 November 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

if you haven't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqCpvzXGTE

ringo ruling @ 0:57
lol paul @ 1:57

Milton Parker, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago)

@ 0:44 YAH TRICK YAHHHHH!!!!

The animal magnetism of Tim Pawlenty (Dan Peterson), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:14 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

Loneliness is a great song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaoSWW_ZDqY

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 30 December 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago)

six months pass...

Finally ripping my used copies of Approximately Infinite Universe and Onobox to the cloud -- and I'm loving the former immediately. I usually try to steer clear of studio cats records -- but this is a great balance of her vocalisms and songwriter-ly instincts. Anyone who doesn't believe she's a wonderful singer hasn't heard this stuff. Big thumbs up for the title track and "I Want my Love To Rest Tonight."

When I get suitably up to speed, we should do an Onobox appreciation thread.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 14 July 2013 18:28 (twelve years ago)

AIU is my favorite of her records: the songs are uniformly interesting, observing the world through unexpected angles. Like the studio rock actually.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 July 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)

Looking Over From my Hotel Window is pretty ace as well. Her lyrics represent this odd mix of Big Social Issues and peculiar observations -- which create tensions the productions often seem designed to enhance.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 14 July 2013 19:17 (twelve years ago)

Remember Love

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 14 July 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)

Nice to see some love for AIU

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 14 July 2013 20:38 (twelve years ago)

How significant was the remixing done around the time of Onobox? I've always thought "Women Power" was way ahead of its time with its gated drum part -- but part of me wonders whether that was a retrofit.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 15 July 2013 02:11 (twelve years ago)

Btw, while we're at it, here's Rolling Stone's review of AIU, written by George Zimmerm-- er, Nick Tosches:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/approximately-infinite-universe-19730315?stop_mobi=yes

Then suddenly we realized that this time

we were both drifting out in a cosmos

somewhere together, like God's two little

dandruffs floating in the universe....

Astral identity! Wow! Something else, right?

— liner notes

It is indeed a shame that the vocals on this album have been allowed to dominate the music, for the boys from Elephant's Memory have rarely sounded better. Yoko, however, in her role as lyricist, is, as they say, laughable. Her sense of poetics and metaphysics are not even up to your average garage-band standards. Jimi Hendrix himself, that prince of cornball pantology, would probably giggle in his box were he to hear the likes of:

I was looking for my head in the closet

I was sure it would be there

But to my surprise it wasn't there

And I had to look all over the world.

Is that shit or is that shit? I mean, is there any need to dissect and discuss the faults of such schticks? The beatnik poets on Perry Mason used to write better stuff, for Chrissake. What is this search for meaning anyway? Didn't that go out in '68? Can stuff like "Leave your private institution/and get down to real communication/leave your scene of destruction/and join us in revolution" still be foisted off as lyrics?

And, if there is any other single attribute of Yoko's that can even be compared to her lyrical idiocy, it is her total obnoxiousness. Can you image some little creep whining out commands to the world like: "Give up, cut out/Tune up and join us," or,

People of America

When will we stop

It is now or never

There's no time to waste.

There's no time to waste.

Or the abject, self-indulgent silliness of:

Sisters, don't blame my man too much

I know he's doing his best

I know his fear and loneliness

He can do no more no less.

What does any of this have to do with the universe? Since when does the staggering, ever-expanding universe have anything to do with some rich kid sniveling about the turmoil within her run-of-the-mill soul or crooning philosophical and political party-line corn that went out of style with last season's prime-time TV?

And it's not just me. I know a guy who's in the forefront of the avant-garde and he doesn't like it either.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 15 July 2013 02:19 (twelve years ago)

Lol what a jackass

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 15 July 2013 03:56 (twelve years ago)

How significant was the remixing done around the time of Onobox? I've always thought "Women Power" was way ahead of its time with its gated drum part -- but part of me wonders whether that was a retrofit.

No, unfortunately that gated drum was mostly invented in the remix; it's not nearly that heavy on Feeling the Space.

Hideous Lump, Monday, 15 July 2013 04:30 (twelve years ago)

used to love tosches but his tough-guy schtick seems lamer and more pathetic every time i try to reread him.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 15 July 2013 16:35 (twelve years ago)

I had an 8-track of Feeling the Space and I played the hell out of it before the tape broke. Great album. Season of Glass was my 1st Ono record, and I knew from the first time I heard "Goodbye Sadness" that she was something special and all the hate poured upon her was obscuring some truly beautiful music.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 15 July 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)

Really enjoying Feeling the Space as well.

No, unfortunately that gated drum was mostly invented in the remix; it's not nearly that heavy on /Feeling the Space/.

Just saw this interview with one of the producers/compilers of the set:

IK: You were in the studio when some of these songs were being re-engineered for CD. Were you there for most of it, or just a few songs?

BH: Most of it. Yoko would like to stress that there was very minimal remixing. I think when people who aren't that familiar with Yoko's music listen to the discs, they're going to think that a lot of it was recorded in the late 80's or 90's - very recently. But all Yoko did was take the original multi-track recordings which have each instrument separated and just tweaked them a bit, bringing up the bass, or the keyboard, etc. She worked for months and months in the studio getting the sound right. Yoko knew exactly what she wanted to do with each song and knew what each song needed before she went in.

The sound is incredible compared to the albums. "Woman Power" is a good example. If you listen to the album, then listen to the CD, you'll really be blown away by the difference in the drums and the power of the song. It's completely changed by Yoko's minimal remix.
http://www.instantkarma.com/magarchive8b_00.html

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:29 (twelve years ago)

I know a guy who's in the forefront of the avant-garde and he doesn't like it either.

Mark G, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:40 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXstxFoayxI

BringTheAuBonPain, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:52 (twelve years ago)

Here's the original Feeling the Space mix of "Woman Power"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV8ohWIPZbw

I would not call the Onobox version a "minimal" remix; the drum sound is completely different. Happily, that grinding guitar wasn't created in the remix--it's like that in the original. Also, the song doesn't fade like in the original mix; it goes on for another 45 seconds until the end of the take.

Comparing the other remixed Feeling the Space songs--Woman of Salem, If Only, A Thousand Times Yes, Straight Talk, and She Hits Back--the changes are primarily adding reverb to the dry '70s drums and vocals (more "space" to "feel," if you will).

She lets the echoing smear at the end of "Woman of Salem" play out for another 20 seconds in the remix.

"She Hits Back" gets an extra 30 seconds between the first and second verses.

The handclaps that are the most prominent percussion on the Onobox "Straight Talk" are barely there in the original mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jgbl-N04Dc

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 00:22 (twelve years ago)

Agreed -- that's not minimal.

A little disappointed I suppose -- I was really struck the first time I heard it in college. But is still a great song --and the guitar riff is epic.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)

"Growing Pains" is lovely btw.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 12:32 (twelve years ago)

Pain, rather

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 12:32 (twelve years ago)

Loneliness is a great song:


Harry Nilsson. Drum machines. Mercedes. Basketball. Yoko:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HcB8mbzi7g&sns=em

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:12 (twelve years ago)

four years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i54pej8bkhI

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 20 November 2017 22:09 (seven years ago)

let's take yoko's twee-est song and make it even mroe twee (I dig it)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 27 November 2017 17:02 (seven years ago)

I have access to a load of postcards of her Voice Piece for Soprano for Simone Morris.
Loads were printed for the Tulca Festival but they don't seem to have been labeled very well. So while they're free to take I don't think people are.

Stevolende, Monday, 27 November 2017 17:54 (seven years ago)

five years pass...

Man, “You’re the One” from Milk and Honey sure sounds like a precursor to Italo classic “The Voice of Q” (tho I suppose the former wasn’t released until two years after the latter):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHYIlp_ZIWc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn0xauJMHXI

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 12 June 2023 17:18 (two years ago)


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