This is the thread for hating on BRITPOP

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I would love to punch Jarvis Cocker.

GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

so many more deserving targets for overamped teenage hostility

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Go away.

CRW (CRW), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Parklife is shit.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

They come over here, stealing our riffs, marrying our beer...

noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

oh come on. Jarvis? Punch out that dude from....uh, I don't care punch Jarvis. Common People was a long time ago. Seriously though punch out that guy from Placebo before you think of Jarvis or anyone actually talented.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

the only bad thing about brit pop was how british and poppy it was.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the thread where we predict which poncey Brit bands Strongo will be forced to listen to at work.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

JARVIS IS NOT TALENTED

GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I must deny your proclamation.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

What's Jarvis up to these days? Is he on the dole?

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

He's down with the electrocla$h

don (don), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

That's Jarvis on the right. Really.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.ca.britishcouncil.org/news/images/relaxedmuscle.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Did he join an ICP side project??????

GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

you're too young to be drunk so i assume it's just retarded

stevem (blueski), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.druckers.com/cry.jpg

GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.isualum.org/news/visions/fall00/cry.jpg

GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

woohoo

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

jarvis is still talented and relaxed muscle is where it's at!!

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

but i will never listen to pulp again

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

'We Love Life' is £3 in the HMV sale.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's just rename this thread "This is the thread for hating on anything Callum likes."

Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

he likes cars and money

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

or did i mix something up there

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

let me rephrase: "This is the thread for hating on anything Callum likes to listen to." (aside, of course, from orgasm noises; those are still grebt, despite C's undoubted love/longing for 'em.)

Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

http://primrosehill.250free.com/jarviszipline.jpg

= you are all gay

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

that picture = SEND IN SECRET AGENT SUPER AWESOME

I don't get ILM's Britpop celeb hate. I think Damon Albarn is a perfectly worthwhile individual. Granted, I live in the Land of Darryl Worley, so you can see how the luxury of having some Britpop dude as A#1 death-marked everything-wrong-with-pop scapegoat is far beyond me.

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Saturday, 8 May 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Nate OTM. I was in fact just talking about the redonkulousness of singling Albarn out as evil when his bad qualities are so obviously half of what makes him so damned classic in the first place.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 8 May 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Please stop hating on Jarvis. Thank you in advance.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 8 May 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Jarvis Cocker is, like, so fucking cool it's hard to know where to begin and as I've stated many times - TWO DECADES AND NOT ONE DUFF ALBUM MAKES PULP THE BEST BAND TO HAVE EVER WALKED THE EARTH.

CRW (CRW), Saturday, 8 May 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Britpop is the best thing about music.

bbc6 personality (bbc6 personality), Saturday, 8 May 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, Calum will even rep for pre His 'n' Hers Pulp. Totally quaint.

Musical Bear (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 8 May 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Really bbc6 personality? Well in that case I wish you would reveal who you are so I could know to avoid your show.

de, Saturday, 8 May 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I really don't care for Blur's "Country House" video. But maybe that's just cause I don't understand it. Other than that, Britpop's COOL!

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 8 May 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Brit Pop, but I don't like Jarvis or Placebo. So what does that mean in the midst of this thread? Probably nothing.

bimble (bimble), Saturday, 8 May 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, Calum will even rep for pre His 'n' Hers Pulp. Totally quaint.

As would others. Separations is incredibly good and Freaks has some deceptively touching moments.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 8 May 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

BRIT POP IS THE UK VERSION OF JAM BAND SHIT.

YOU GUYS ARE WORSE THAN DMB FANZ.

GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Saturday, 8 May 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

And "It" by Pulp is lovely too. "My Lighthouse" is just fantastic. "I Want You" from Freaks is still one of my all time favourite Pulp songs. And how are they Britpop anyway? They were making albums long before Britpop.

CRW (CRW), Saturday, 8 May 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.betsyda.com/pictures/tv/buffy-prom/tuxJ3.jpg

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 8 May 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

It means something...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 May 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Jon/Jonathan entertains us.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 8 May 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Here we are now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Bad Britpop:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000072LQ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Good Britpop:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000001E7C.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Northern Uproar wasn't even bad Britpop, it was squelching slime.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Britpop is great, and so is jarvis cocker

Toon (Skelter), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.percenterprises.com/images/freddurstsmiths.jpg

Aaron A., Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's put it this way. If you look at the bands of the 90s and which were important/ shaped the way popular music was going to go etc - how many American bands or artists would you have?

Nirvana.

But UK-wise you had Suede, The Prodigy, Radiohead, Pulp, Blur, Oasis, My Bloody Valentine.

CRW (CRW), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, can I just call attention to the fact that A Certain Someone has decided to praise MBV of all sudden?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

wasn't it the fastest-selling British album ever over there until 'Ok Computer' a few months later?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Ever? I find that hard to believe but that's me. And it actually came out at the same time as OKC, or a mere week or two apart I think.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

it's easy to believe when you consider that Dido's 'Life For Rent' is now the fastest-selling album ever in Britain now (basically first week sales for anything big began surging upwards from the mid 90s and never looked back) but yes i couldn't quite remember whether the Prodigy and Radiohead releases were weeks or months apart.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe i was thinking of 'Be Here Now'?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

That only debuted at 2 in America.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

but it's totally irrelevant in *this particular discussion*, J0hn.

ok M if you say so, fine - I'd say that Foetus and his various cohorts are utterly key to any discussion of NIN & their aftereffects but it's not something I'm ready to go to war about or anything

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

well, exactly!

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 10 May 2004 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Not interested in beating up Jarvis Cocker, but can someone hold down the Gallagher Brothers while I work them over with cricket bats?

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 10 May 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

I would love to punch Jarvis Cocker.

-- GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:35 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

so many more deserving targets for overamped teenage hostility

-- strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:38 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

Go away.

-- CRW (CRW), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:39 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

Parklife is shit.

-- stephen morris (stephen morris), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:40 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

OTM, not OTM, not OTM, OTM

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 12:14 (seventeen years ago)

i blame whigfield, seriously. in '94 every other uk number one was a crap novelty school disco record by the likes of rednex, outhere brothers, whigfield, etc...

so we had to have a return to "real" bands like oasis, supergrass, blur etc...

who, imo, were worse than the kiddie house.

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 12:39 (seventeen years ago)

but i will never listen to pulp again

-- the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Saturday, May 8, 2004 10:45 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

this didn't happen

electricsound, Monday, 1 October 2007 12:53 (seventeen years ago)

:-(

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 12:54 (seventeen years ago)

max, you're out of your element.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 1 October 2007 12:55 (seventeen years ago)

maybe jon williams invented the LBCZC? sobering thought.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 1 October 2007 12:56 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, i am really.

i understand there were many factors that contributed to britpop's rise, but i think animosity towards cheeseball dance pop (and dance music in general) was part of it.

there's no need to be patronising, chum.

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 12:58 (seventeen years ago)

Yay, clusterfuck thread time!

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 12:59 (seventeen years ago)

i don't think people buy records they like in protest at other records, son.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:02 (seventeen years ago)

maybe not, but the press likes a bit of contrast doesn't it?

"faceless techno bollocks" and all that.

you don't think it was hard for the press to find "stars" in dance music? bands are a bit more quotable aren't they?

plus i remember kids brought up on synthpop and dance thinking that that wave of bands was original, because most indie until then had been quite underground.

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.80scartoons.net/images/f/fanmax.jpg

"Along came Max, and the funtime started..."

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:08 (seventeen years ago)

i don't think any britpop records even got to number one in 1994. stiltskin did, however, so guess my theory.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:11 (seventeen years ago)

did in 95, tho

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:12 (seventeen years ago)

"get to tha price choppa roffle" my favourite jw alias.

Whigfield was awesome, max, "saturday night" a great single.

Pashmina, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:17 (seventeen years ago)

The ragga version of "Saturday Night" was pretty heat as well.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmk9Oar3-k0

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:20 (seventeen years ago)

it was a hot jam for the laydeez

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:20 (seventeen years ago)

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Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:21 (seventeen years ago)

ur mum is a sockpuppet

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:22 (seventeen years ago)

01. (N a) Whigfield - Saturday Night[]
02. (-1 ) Wet Wet Wet - Love Is All Around[]
03. (N pa) Luther Vandross And Mariah Carey - Endless Love[]
04. (-2 pa) Kylie Minogue - Confide In Me[]
05. (4 pa) Corona - The Rhythm Of The Night[]
06. (-1 pa) Boyz II Men - I'll Make Love To You[]
07. (-4 a) Youssou N'Dour Featuring Neneh Cherry - 7 Seconds[]
08. (-4 pa) Red Dragon With Brian And Tony Gold - Compliments On Your Kiss[]
09. (N pa) R.E.M. - What's The Frequency, Kenneth?[]
10. (1 pa) M-Beat Featuring General Levy - Incredible {1994 Re-Release}[]
11. (-5 a) Let Loose - Crazy For You {1994}[]
12. (-4 pa) Warren G And Nate Dogg - Regulate[]
13. (N pa) Cyndi Lauper - Hey Now (Girls Just Want To Have Fun)[]
14. (-7 pa) China Black - Searching[]
15. (-) Sophie B Hawkins - Right Beside You[]
16. (-6 pa) All-4-One - I Swear[]
17. (-5 pa) DJ Miko - What's Up[]
18. (3 pa) Lisa Loeb And Nine Stories - Stay (I Missed You)[]
19. (N a) Grid - Rollercoaster[]
20. (-6 pa) Blur - Parklife[]
21. (-4 pa) Shampoo - Trouble[]
22. (-3 pa) Blondie - Atomic {1994}[]
23. (-10 pa) Pet Shop Boys - Yesterday When I Was Mad[]
24. (-2 pa) Livin' Joy - Dreamer[]
25. (1 pa) D:Ream - Blame It On Me[]
26. (N pa) Bad Boys Inc - Love Here I Come[]
27. (N pa) Snap! Featuring Summer - Welcome To Tomorrow[]
28. (-10 pa) Tinman - Eighteen Strings[]
29. (-4 pa) Robert Palmer - Know By Now[]
30. (N pa) Roxette - Fireworks[]
31. (N pa) M People - Elegantly American - One Night In Heaven/Moving On Up (Remixes)[]
32. (-12 pa) Sean Maguire - Someone To Love[]
33. (N pa) Aswad - Warriors[]
34. (-18 pa) The Wonder Stuff - Unbearable[]
35. (-11 pa) Eternal - So Good[]
36. (N pa) Sabres Of Paradise - Wilmot[]
37. (-6 pa) Duke Baysee - Sugar Sugar[]
38. (-4 pa) Shara Nelson - Inside Out/Down That Road[]
39. (-9 pa) Prince - Letitgo[]
40. (-11 pa) PJ And Duncan - Let's Get Ready To Rhumble[]

That's a pretty hot top 40.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:26 (seventeen years ago)

All-4-One can fuck off, though.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:26 (seventeen years ago)

You can force it but it will not come
You can taste it but it will not form
You can crush it but it's always here
You can crush it but it's always near
Chasing you home saying
Everything is broken
Everyone is broken

You can force it but it will stay stung
You can crush it as dry as a bone
You can walk it home straight from school
You can kiss it, you can break all the rules
But still...
Everything is broken
Everyone is broken

Everyone is, everyone is broken
Everyone is, everything is broken

Why can't you forget?
Why can't you forget?
Why can't you forget?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:26 (seventeen years ago)

Richard said "Withdrawal in disgust is not the same as apathy"

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago)

You wore our expectations like an armored suit

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:28 (seventeen years ago)

You said that irony was the shackles of youth

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:28 (seventeen years ago)

i blame mondeo pop, seriously. in '94 every other uk number one was a crap faux-scottish soft-rock mock-soul record by the likes of deacon blue, aztec camera, wet wet wet, etc...

so we had to have a return to "real" bands like whigfield, doop, livin joy etc...

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:30 (seventeen years ago)

there are a few decent tracks in there:

incredible, dreamer, rollercoaster (but not as good as swamp thing), the prince tune was crap by his standards. bit of a bland chart, imo

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:31 (seventeen years ago)

i blame grunge, seriously. in '91 every other uk number one was a crap flannel shirted, distorted amp driven piece of shit US rock record by the likes of Mudhoney, Gruntruck, The Melvins, Tad, etc...

so we had to have a return to "real" bands like Wet Wet Wet, Aztec Camera, Deacon Blue etc...

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:32 (seventeen years ago)

'wilmot' is fucking great. or i though so then.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:33 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, yeah, alright there were various reasons.

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:33 (seventeen years ago)

21. (-4 pa) Shampoo - Trouble[]

Not feeling this.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

I checked, The Melvins only had three UK #1 singles. I thought it was more.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

oh yeah, 7 seconds was good as well.

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

12. (-4 pa) Warren G And Nate Dogg - Regulate[]

that's what i'm talking about

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

I have no idea why that isn't on more karaoke machines.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 1 October 2007 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

What is needed is a thread for hating on hip-hop and contemporary R&B.

Britpop was great, not as much great in itself musically (although it was too) as a much needed return to the song.

It was said that teen pop killed off Britpop, but as opposed to most of what was popular with the kids in the early 90s, Spice Girls and the boy bands did at least have real tunes with real verses and real choruses. And so it has remained, outside the hip-hop/R&B world.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 02:55 (seventeen years ago)

I mean, even most electronica has tunes these days.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 02:56 (seventeen years ago)

huh? a lot of electronica had tunes in the early 90s, like the artificial intelligence comps and all that.

max r, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 09:15 (seventeen years ago)

Well, of course there were always Robert Miles, Enigma and Deep Forest, but.....

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

this thread was better than i expected

blueski, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

The last dozen or so people to post are working in self-parody mode, surely?

paulhw, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 00:51 (seventeen years ago)

seven years pass...

http://www.nme.com/photos/what-killed-britpop-12-theories-from-radiohead-to-tony-blair/361650/1/1

Kibbutzki (Jaap Schip), Friday, 26 December 2014 19:31 (ten years ago)

Best part of Britpop = those bands who 'wanted nothing to do with it' yet road the coattails anyway, as they knew no one would care otherwise

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 27 December 2014 00:43 (ten years ago)


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