Florida vs Bay Area Hardcore

Florida had the best emoviolence bands -- End of the Century Party, Asshole Parade, Palatka. The Bay Area had Spazz (most high profile powerviolence band), Capitalist Casualties (generic), Noothgrush (sludgy), Godstomper (barely competent), Agents of Satan (don't remember). There was also artsy emocore from Mohinder and the like.

00's - I have no idea.

Pfftt!. The only HC that matters is 80's HC.

Florida also has to offer: Reversal of Man, Twelve Hour Turn, Strikeforce Diablo.

In addition to what Kris mentioned re: California: Man Is The Bastard, Swing Kids, Indian Summer, Antioch Arrow, Heroin.

My feelings on HC in the eighties vary widely. I like most of the early stuff--Minor Threat, Flag, Bad Brains, Circle Jerks, Flipper, etc, but with the advent of Youth of Today & co. in NYC, it all kind of went to shit. The "youth crew" movement ruined hardcore for a while, until it was reclaimed by early emo bands as being about DIY, expression and being fuckin' pissed.

I can't say I'm specifically familiar with any Florida bands....but didn't that morph into the whole Morbid Angel, death metal scene?

Florida also had Assuck.

Ha yeah, that was what threw me... I'm not aware of any specific link between hardcore and death metal in Florida, I think they grew up very organically and seperate of each other

None of these are bay area bands. SoCal hardcore has probably been the best altogether - Stapled Shut, Discordance Axis, Gasp, and the zillions of San Diego bands.

I thought Assuck was from Alabama or something. In/Humanity was another good SE band, but I can't remember whether they were from Florida or not.

Hahaha

Almost as entertainingas Afghanistan Bananastand

In the early '80s, Florida had F, Roach Motel, and State -- the last of which crushes. Who did "(Fuck You) We Dig Nixon"? I need to consult the tapes.

If you don't count DKs, Flipper, MDC, Crime -- because maybe they're all too punk? -- San Francisco will still completely slay you with Crucifix and Attitude Adjustment. What about Frightwig and Tragic Mulatto?

Here's Die Kreuzen in 1981 (someone in this room would rather be listening to F):

http://www.soundofthebeast.com/images/11a.jpg

Voodoo Idols

the 90s florida hardcore bands took some of their inspiration directly from the tampa death metal. that's what a bunch of us grew up on in high school.

a lot of the gainesville crowd listened to stuff from baltimore (vermiform, vermin scum, etc), DC (dischord), olympia (krs) and the socal (gravity). a lot of emocore/emoviolence love. that's the stuff i remember hearing chatter about. "how do the swing kids play that fast?"

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Ooooold Glory. Though like, it may as well have been on Ebullition. everything else seems to have been.

*msg and i ended up standing outside in front of the club talking for most of their set.

wub wub wub.

(i am so confused by jon's new username.)

WHAT ARE YOU DOIN LISTENIN TO THAT SHIT?

Yeah, I always wondered what that cryptic reference in the liner notes meant.

good florida 90's/00's hardcore- palatka, end of the century party, true north, red ribbon club, assuck, reactionary 3, asshole parade, strikeforce diablo, tired from now on, burnman, (early) combat wounded veteran, the goddamn deluge, the k. shipley, tone locust...

granted, it's heavy on the gainesville bands, but that's where i'm originally from. most of us were into the gravity records stuff... oh- and everyone freaked out on lungfish too.
palatka was pretty much one of the best ever.

megarockarena vs. the utility house?
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WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF HALO PERFECTO? (containing Mike T from Palatka kicking ass)

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if you've no luck, e-mail me and i can make a tape of it the LP and also the last show they played in Providence before going on tour and breaking up.

also, chris pink rabbit sez:

<not on fire> 04/05/13 09:00:04 PM
its mike fgrom the bakery and kites and some famous art dude who lived at the bakery(i forget his name).......they played my last show but sucked
<not on fire> 04/05/13 09:00:57 PM
.mike on drums, famous dude on keyboards, kites on guitar and stuff............go to bsr to hear them

famousdude is apparently Jim Drain, from forcefield.