POO: Element of Hip-Hop Culture

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The choices are:

* DJing
* MCing (includes beatboxing)
* B-Boying
* Graf Writing

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

wo ist das bling?

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

B-Boying = being stroppy in a buffalo stance whilst flashing your jewellery?

i'll take DJing i guess

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

you left out "cultural empowerment"

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

...and "flower arranging." (I think I've made this joke before.)

― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

MC-ing. Especially beatboxing.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Disconcerting to see so little respect for the Four Elements.

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.zrdesign.co.uk/img_still_life/four_lemons_500.jpg

― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

What? No *breakdancing....?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The "B" in "B-boy" stands for "break," Alex.

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Does it? Hahaha...I honestly always wondered about that. Thanks.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel like KRS-One over here.

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that bobbito book is great! why the hate?

― s>c>, Monday, 10 May 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

who said there was hate? I bought it yesterday for my roommate. The fascination with shoes is one of the best things about hip-hop.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.dustygroove.com/prip/2/4/78342i.htm

just got this in the mail today. :::drool:::

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

(I am so tempted to post the Michael Sembello picture to this thread for absolutely no reason.)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

damn it. the pic is of Freddy Fresh's The Rap Records--1st Edition.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, h. thought you were being ironic.

i've been wanting to cop that freddy fresh book. heard a lot of good things about it. it's coffee table, right?

and to answer the original question: graffiti, right now. although they're all pretty wonderful.

― s>c>, Monday, 10 May 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

from yesterday's NY Times (picture taken two blocks from where I live):

MERZ

I started in early 1995, at 14, in Cincinnati. I was a middle-class kid and graffiti had mystery and colors and was looked down upon. I was fascinated by it, driving down the highway and seeing what guys had done on billboards and on the roofs of buildings.

In New York it's everywhere, but there it was a very small, underground scene - a handful of writers, maybe 9 or 10 people total at the time.

I'm not bombing much these days. I feel like I'm over the hill. When you're in your studio doing a painting, you're not getting a rush of it. I spend months on one painting, but maybe an hour on a piece of graffiti. If you paint a rooftop next to a highway, you know that it will be in everybody's face when they're driving to work in the morning. It's the mystery of it - I like that feeling - the same one I had when I was starting out. What does it mean, why is it there, how did they get up there?

I did a billboard next to the Manhattan Bridge after a friend of mine, NACE, passed away a few years ago. Each letter was maybe 10 feet tall. We spent the whole night climbing up and down the back of the billboard, which has all these scaffolds on it. It said: "NACE: Rest in Peace," and it's still up.

If you get away with something grand like painting a whole billboard, then, "All right!"

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 10 May 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Chromium

― oops (Oops), Monday, 10 May 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the Freddy Fresh book isn't coffeetable, it's about 6 x 8 inches. nicely designed esp. for an independently published book, though, for sure.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 10 May 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I've tried all of them. 3 have gotten me respect, though I'm merely OK at them. One's gotten me arrested. I'll take b-boying/street-dancing.

― Barima (Barima), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

graf

― don (don), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

hstencil OTM with the shoes, definitely my favorite aspect of hip-hop culture. I have to physically restrain myself from picking up new trainers all the time.

― webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure I've spent more time on MCing, but graf is the most interesting to me. Oh, fuck it, I can't choose.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Hip-hop culture? An oxymoron of the highest order. One must look to the extended works of our jazz musicians from 21st century America for true cultural vintage.

― Jean-Luc (Jean-Luc), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Why don't you get started on one now?

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

LET HIM GO

― Jean-Luc (Jean-Luc), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

*lets him go

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU WILL NOT MEDDLE WITH THE LIVES OF MY CREW

― Jean-Luc (Jean-Luc), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

*does not meddle with the lives of his crew

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Captain! It's........the cloud, it's communicating with us........it's..................making love to a beautiful mate......ohhhhhhhhhh.

― Deanna Troy (Jean-Luc), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I love rap music.

― Ferengi (Jean-Luc), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

It reminds me of money, which I also love.

― Ferengi (Jean-Luc), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

children of the hip hop culture.

http://www.geocities.com/ken_the_juggler/hiphop.JPG

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck's sake

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the best thing is the East Coast/West Coast feud. More feuding equals less rapping.

― Davlo (Davlo), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

wow you couldn't be more wrong there, ie it's fuel to the fire!

― oops (Oops), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think i could isolate any of the elements. the whole package is fucking awesome. i could say. "i like MCing the best" without feeling liek im dissing the rest of the culture

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

P.S. the crew of the enterprise-D LOVE hip hop. i know this for a fact. one time data picked me up in his chromed out shuttle craft and we cruised around the alpha quadrant hollering at space bitches... geordi has awesome weed.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

also, according to KRS-One the 9 Elements of hip hop are:

Breaking, MCing, Graffiti Art, DJing, Beatboxing, Street Fashion, Street Language, Street Knowledge, Street Entrepreneurialism, Trade and Business.

and i like this non traditional version because it makes hip hop seem more relevant than just some dudes in baggy clothing spinning on thier heads and scrathing up old records.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

don't forget Love

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The downside, astroblaster, is that all that needs is a mission statement to become Dilbert/Office-worthy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

PLUR?

― Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Paint, Lyrics, Uprocking, Records

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

(oh dear god what have I done?)

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez, we're up to NINE elements now?? Soon it'll be up to twelve steps, and we'll have to go to a bunch of meetings.

― Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Alkaholiks Anonymous

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The impoliteness, I suppose.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(I mean not so much that that's my favourite element, just that it's the most important)

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

[img]http://www.turning.ca/images/wimsatt-bomb-the-suburbs.jpg[/img]
flawed but wonderful.

― djdee2005, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

blarg.

― djdee2005, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

^ Finally got Bomb the Suburbs on eBay. I'm gonna blog the fuck out of it when I'm done reading.

― Erick (Imbroglio), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

No More Prisons is really good too, although not quite as fun to read.

― djdee2005, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 06:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ten years pass...

banking

http://www.theonion.com/articles/chase-executives-fondly-recall-financial-companys,36863/

― everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 04:07 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

I mostly enjoyed that Bobbito directed movie doc --Stretch and Bobbito: Radio That Changed Lives...

Since he directed it, there's an autobiographical aspect to this rather a more objective one. But He does include folks who found the antics on their radio show misogynistic and juvenile. The movie does not put the program into context with whatever else was happening in music at the time, or include folks not partial to their brand of '90s hiphop nerd, but it does include old video footage of on-air freestyling, and impressive cassette demos plus Nas and Jay-Z and others listening now to those old tapes...

― curmudgeon, Friday, 4 December 2015 16:47 (nine years ago)

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