Morrissey is #2 in the midweeks.

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I just thought that deserved a thread of its own.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

is this the year big 80s stars release their mediocre "comeback" LP that is inexplicably a big hit?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i actually like the single okay, but it's a bit clubfooted.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

A "big hit" in Britain these days constitutes selling about 500 copies

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess i am still just bowled over that prince record is doing as well as it is.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

b-b-b-but it's such an ace single! (prince, i mean. moz's is no bad)

― Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

And it will float downwards a little by the time Saturday is over...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. (Ex-)indiekids can't resist rushing out and buying singles on the day of release. I doubt the Saturday shopper will be as interested.

― clive (Clive), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

HOW IN THE FUCK ARE KASABIAN #12?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Not necessarily. The other top #10 new entries are Avril at 5, and everyone's favourite over-emotional white suit wearer Raghav at 9, so there's no danger of an overtake there, and Eamon, at 3, has been selling for a month now, so whether he can muster up enough sales to overtake the miserable bastard is doubtful.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Any chance of TOTP then?

X-post, I've never heard Kasabian but their name is really shit and Bland Teletext Reviewer likes them. This seems to have been a good year for anonymous indie bands with shit names doing inexplicably well.

― ferg (Ferg), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Hah, yeah, Kasabian outselling Jay-Z, I smiled/spat my coffee out when I saw that as well.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Kasabian aren't an anonymous indie band, they're an anonymous rock band. They are fucking dire.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Raghav is good I like him. What's the new Avril called (sudden desire to start paying attention to pop cultchuh)

― ferg (Ferg), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

'Don't Tell Me', wherein Avril threatens to kick ass of man who wants to fuck her. Video involves her punching out a mirror.

Oh, and Frankee's #1 by a mile.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and Frankee's #1 by a mile.

Woo! Go Frankee!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I am thinking about how thrilled I would have been in 1988 if I found out that a Morrissey single gatecrashing the chart in this way (I had no access to such information then - maybe Suedehead was indeed as high as No. 2 midweek). And I am contrasting that with my peculiar reaction to this news. I'm cross that JtN may have been right with his prediction, cross that Morrissey just might acheive his highest ever chart placing ever with such a mediocre song, cross that it all seems out of my hands.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Why not go and buy the Kasabian single, then. They obviously the popular choice...

for fuck's sakes...

Also set for the 40 - Pete Doherty's Babyshambles project, Gomez and The Dead 60's. STUDENT POWAH!!!

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

We all have our crossness to bear.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

lumme! CAn you imagine the midweek placing of an actual libertines single, when it comes?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe a TOTP performance?

no way, TOTP is all about the "future hits" (TM Chrysalis Records Pluggers) now, rather than anything actually going on in the chart

― Dave Amos, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Mmm, I note Insania is released on the 31st may, and was on TOTP Friday just gone (7th)

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

TOTP this week:

Eamon
Ronaaaan
Lostprophets (WITH A BULLET AT #18)
Christina Milian (third week in a row, no?)
Kurt Nilsen
ATL
Supergrass

Jeebus.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Kurt Nilsen! That bastard better have a hit, or I'm going to be disappointed. Even if his song is shit.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

His song isn't shit

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)

His song is a Tal Bachman cover. It is shit.

― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM is so capable of having a say in chart positions of certain singles now. We just need a record we can all agree on.

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

That'll never happen (all ilxors agreeing on something that is)

― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I read recently that it only takes 699 sales to reach the Top 40 - I think it was The Thrills who managed to achieve that milestone.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

We just need a record we can all agree on.

I suggested it be done for the next Delgados single. Nobody except WBS liked the idea.

― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the single. what's with all the hatin'?

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

speaking of, any news on a new Delgados single?

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Wee Kev's out next week. He's not got much competition neither.

Tho apparently the Kaiser Chiefs single is very good. I might not have been listening to terribly reliable sources on that, though.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

New Delgados stuff later this year, late-summer-ish. I think.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

(clarifying Wee Kev comment - there's a lot of singles out next week that have a very good chance of charting at about #23.)

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i think William should make a record and everyone on ILX should buy it so he can have a Top 40 hit after years of trying

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd rather buy William's single than anything by the Delgados

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Talking of 1988 (well, I was), I remember a big fuss about declining singles sales then, too, prompted by the Pet Shop Boys' Heart only selling 5000 (? think I have remembered that right, but maybe not) copies in its final week at No.1.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't we have a 'buying' concensus on the "Take Me Out" Franz Ferdinand single, recently?

And don't we have one coming up with the Nick Drake single this monday?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I seem to recall PSB's 'Heart' selling 46,000 at its lowest ebb at No.1..

― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm holding out for the Throbbing Gristle reunion single - "Dude Looks Like A Lady" seems a possible candidate

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

or "Dude looks nothing like a lady" even.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Buffalo. Was about to say I must have got that figure wrong.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's agree on "Dude Thinks He Looks Like A Lady But In Fact Is Provoking Surpressed Giggles On Five Continents"

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick, I really have no business remembering 16 year old figures like 46k.

For shame.

― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Remind me what some recent No. 1's have been selling per week.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I still wish Record Mirror was still going.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Eamon sold 56,000 last week, 80,000 the week before, 100,000 the week before that.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that high, low or average for a No.1 these days?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I think maybe the last really-not-very-special number one by Bedingfield (male variety) was the lowest selling number one ever ever with sales of 22,500 (except this kind of feels like a figure I have plucked from out of thin air)

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, I thought you might've been an Alan Jones devotee.

― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

100,000 is very high. 50,000 is probably about par for the course. Michelle was around 30,000 one week earlier this year, if I'm remembering right.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The Irish Blood, English Heart EP is the #1 album in the iTunes store.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

(The single is only #59, though.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Eamon is an anomaly, him and DJ Casper have been the only two massive selling #1s this year. The lowest selling #1 album of all time is "Version 2.0" by Garbage, for what it's worth.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahah, the Version 2.0 and International Velvet non-sales were what prompted the big burning-guitar McGeely-alarmist MUSIC HAS ACTUALLY DIED IT'S DEAD NME issue (kind of) in 1998. Happy days

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand why N. is cross.

I am glad he is, or was, talking of 1988.

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Toxic was quite a large seller in its first week too, wasn't it?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

New Kids On The Block, Right Said Fred and Shakespeare's Sister all sold just 30,000 copies at #1 for at least one week

i too miss Record Mirror tho i point this out fairly often

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

'Wu-Tang Forever' was another very low-selling #1 album iirc

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

You know when a single is going to sell big when it crashes the UK Top 40 on import alone. Shaggy did this with 'It Wasn't Me', it then sold around 450,000 copies in it's first week iirc, maybe more. Will Young outdid that without import sales tho i think. What is the fastest-selling number one ever now? still Elton farking John?

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I right in saying "Slow" was a very low-selling #1?

― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Album sales were saved by Dido and David Grey. Well down all involved.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Will Young is the fastest selling #1 ever. Babylon Zoo were the fastest selling #1 for a short while. Dark days.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

surely 'Candle In The Wind '97' sold more in it's first week than 'Evergreen'?

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

According to everyhit, Elton John sold 1.55 million in the first week and Will Young 1.1 million.

Among the nuggets it says that Anita Harris had the biggest selling single to peak at #6.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

top 20 selling singles this year so far in the UK :

01 All This Time Michelle 289,423
02 Cha Cha Slide DJ Casper 260,500
03 Mysterious Girl Peter Andre 240,000
04 Take Me To The Clouds Above LMC vs. U2 220,000
05 Toxic Britney Spears 219,500
06 Milkshake Kelis 218,500
07 Yeah Usher featuring Lil’ John & Ludacris 191,000
08 Hey Ya Outkast 158,000
09 Somebody To Love Boogie Pimps 145,000
10 Mad World Michael Andrews featuring Gary Jules 139,000
11 Thank You Jamelia 138,000
12 Changes Kelly & Ozzy Osbourne 126,000
13 I’m Still In Love With You Sean Paul featuring Sasha 90,172
14 With A Little Help From My Friends/Measure of A Man Sam & Mark 90,500
15 So Confused 2-Play featuring Raghav & Juxci 90,000
16 Amazing George Michael 83,000
17 Red Blooded Woman Kylie Minogue 79,000
18 Leave Right Now Will Young 73,500
19 Somewhere Only We Know Keane 73,000
20 Who’s David Busted 71,00

― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd forgotten Sam and Mark ever existed already

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

actually like the single okay, but it's a bit clubfooted.

ha, what a great description, Jess.

The lyrics of this are just so silly: it is like the text book single for a college class on multiculturalism, circa ~ 93

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but it's provided lots of people in the UK who are only Irish during St Patrick's Day and after England get knocked out of the World Cup a third chance to wave the shamrock.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

zappi - how old is that list exactly? Cos it would appear to be distinctly bereft of Eamon...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

It doesn't take much to achieve a #2 single nowadays, I don't see how this is at all a big deal.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, well I'm glad it's turned into a discussion of the charts rather than Morrissey.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

zappi - how old is that list exactly? Cos it would appear to be distinctly bereft of Eamon...

erm, i've no idea, i got it from aatw forums which are usually pretty accurate about these sort of things, but as you say its somewhat lacking in the eamon dept.

― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i've just looked it up and it was from april. whoops.
heres one from 4th may for those still care

01 **** It (I Don't Want You Back) Eamon 332,000
02 Cha Cha Slide DJ Casper 322,000
03 All This Time Michelle 289,500
04 Mysterious Girl Peter Andre 261,000
05 Toxic Britney Spears 251,000
06 Yeah Usher featuring Lil' John & Ludacris 249,000
07 Take Me To The Clouds Above LMC vs. U2 227,000
08 Milkshake Kelis 224,000
09 Thank You Jamelia 166,000
10 Hey Ya! OutKast 158,000
11 Left Outside Alone Anastacia 157,000
12 Somebody To Love Boogie Pimps 151,000
13 My Band D12 149,000
14 Mad World Michael Andrews & Gary Jules 139,000
15 5 Colours In Her Hair McFly 129,000
16 Changes Kelly & Ozzy Osbourne 126,000
17 Amazing George Michael 102,000
18 With A Little Help From My Friends/Measure of A Man Sam & Mark 95,000
19 She Wants To Move 94,000 NERD
20 Kylie Minogue - Red Blooded Woman 93,000

― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Some incredibly nice person at Kim's Music just gave me the YATQ promo (I take back everything bad I've ever said about Kim's) and the "America is the World" opener is very confusing. I thought it was going to be more bombastic a la Bowie's "I'm Afraid of America" but it seems more like a love song to me. He starts off berating the Americans' weight and ends off plaintively singing "but I love you, I love you, I love you . . . " I'm glad that the song is more conflicted and complicated than I thought it would be.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just listened to the album all the way through... meh. That's a whole new thread, or do we just wait for the inevitable "Taking Sides: You Are The Quarry vs Musicology" thread?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you see the review in Uncut, comparing the two?

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

No I didn't. Inevitable, though.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you see the Brian Eno review, in the same issue?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The David Essex reviews were also quite an eye-opener

;-)

― de, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I have still not seen the new Uncut.

― the bluefox, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw JtN Stephen Merritt review ;)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you mean in Uncut?

― de, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently.

I will have a look for it in... Smiths.

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not sure that Uncut is always... uncut.

― the bluefox, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah. So JtN is Mr Trousse?

― de, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

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