tg live in london last night

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did anyone attend? can we have a report?

an aquaintance who did attend made available to me an mp3 of one of the four songs from a new cd they sold at the event. it's an 11 minute track called 'almost like this' and i swear it is possibly the best thing they have ever recorded. i have just spent the last three hours listening to it on repeat - mindblowing! carter, tuuti, christopherson, p orridge - i salute you!

stirmonster, Monday, 17 May 2004 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)

any chance of you making this available anywhere else?!

toby (tsg20), Monday, 17 May 2004 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i wish i knew what this was about

stevem (blueski), Monday, 17 May 2004 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)

throbbing gristle - invitation only comeback gig steve. i think ..

mark e (mark e), Monday, 17 May 2004 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

email me and i'll work something out.

stirmonster, Monday, 17 May 2004 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Where was it?

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 17 May 2004 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i presume there are messageboards where people are avidly discussing the gig right now. i have no idea where they are though.

(thanks stirmonster - email sent.)

toby (tsg20), Monday, 17 May 2004 09:06 (twenty-two years ago)

listened to it earlier today and it hardly distracted, now it's late it works. it needed space, the whole tracks flickers in and out of focus

nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 17 May 2004 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

can someone fix me up please!

A desperate northern TG fan

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Monday, 17 May 2004 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

answering my on question, someone who attended posted this elsewhere -


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Ok, gear first. Chris and Sleazy had Powerbooks, Cosey an i-book. Sleazy was also using what looked like a small red Korg, don’t know the model’s name. Chris had a novation remote 25 audio and that made me very happy - like a big stupid kid - because I’ve just bought one. He did have a rack of beautiful, intricate and unaffordable looking hardware to go along with it though. He also had a drum machine on the side and I didn’t recognise either that or the software he was running. Cosey mostly played slide guitar on her lap, she played trumpet on one song and did something on her I-book on another but didn't sing at all, so no Hot on the Heels. Gen played Bass and violin on one song each and sang on the rest. She was wearing a plastic red mini with matching jacket, stockings and a padded basque to show off her tits. With all the scarification, tats, metal teeth and implants she looked like a highway prostitute from the seventh circle of hell. perfect.

After a bit of banter and a false start they opened with what I think were the minimalistic rumblings of X-ray off TGNOW. In fact, I think they played all of TGNOW on the day and unusually in this sort of situation, it was the right thing to do - it’s absolutely amazing and was MINDBLOWING live. The standouts from the back catalogue were Persuasion and Hamburger Lady but I don’t have all their stuff so I’m not sure what was new. to add to the confusion, the live versions of the new stuff were completely different from the CD which I didn’t hear till after the gig and the live versions of the old ones were often only recognisable by the lyrics and a nuclear flash of sonic connection.

They all seemed to be loving it. especially Sleazy. Sleazy was having a ball.
it was all really fucking intense of course. even more so than I’d hoped. immense brain and ball crushing bass, spectral, clanging guitar slashes… and that trumpet sound Cosey; WOW. What Chris and Sleazy concocted together was true synergetic alchemy of the most precise nature, transmuting their gold from the tentative micro movements of tiny knobs and the spasm-crashing howl of accidental feedback from synths both soft and hard. Gen’s voice has become rich with the years and shows incredible range, from girlish squeals to deep eldritch grunts. mostly processed and delivered with cunning wit.

I think I shivered at least once every couple of minutes but the last tune they played pretty much made me…… well I get a bit shy talking about that sort of thing. I’m pretty sure it must have been How Do You Deal, which you can find if you click my name. it banged like a bastard reaching a crescendo somewhere above anywhere I’ve been before with live electronic music, that pure rush of electronic sexual energy up the spine is what I crave most in my dreams. and then that was it. no encore. no fucking way. good afternoon London. an hour and forty minutes of industrial bliss.

stirmonster, Monday, 17 May 2004 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, wish I hadn't missed this one.

Bimble (bimble), Monday, 17 May 2004 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)

it was at the astoria.
the admissions/queueing was a fucking shambles - some ppl had tickets and some hadn't had them posted out yet plus there was a 'guest list'

started q'ing at 3:45pm and got in at nrly 5pm exactly - but there was still a long queue behind us - TG started at 5:20 or so i think, so i don't know if ppl did actually get turned away or not

it was like a swamp inside the place and the main area was already full, but we got a good spot behind the mixing desk and a good view

it was very loud (big surprise) - at one point it sounded like the rafters were about to come down

they did 'convincing people' & 'what a day' as well as the ones mentioned - i thought the final one was 'discipline'

i am very pleased i travelled down, in spite of the usual contingent of mad wino / heroin-beggar / fuxor-with-dog-with-scarf / nathan-barleyish-twats to put up with as part of the london experience

it was very good

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 09:20 (twenty-two years ago)

wow these tracks are amazing

however this interview with Gen/Breyer suggests that his overestimation of his own importance continues unabated: http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1177647,00.html

Key line: "It turns out that there's a huge community of African-American musicians whose main influence is Throbbing Gristle." The hell you say, Gen.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i read that and remember thinking - 'yeah right!'. he claims that he gets stopped on the streets of the east village getting big respect from all these african-american hip hop producers who were influenced by tg. bollox!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe they thought he was Bowie in another 'phase.'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean if he's gonna make up stories like that they really oughta start out with "the other day I was down in the Bronx, the South South Bronx" & then proceed claiming that he rocked a party in a public park while the locals all chanted "BREY-ER! BREY-ER! BREY-ER!" and carried him through the streets on their shoulders

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, you know that South South Bronx.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder what his daughters make of it all - they must be, what, late teens/ early 20s now? I mean everyone's embarassed by their parents but errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...............

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

"this next song is from some sessions we did with Scott La Rock back in the day"

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

this could well be one of my albums of the year...

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I was there, wasn't sure what to expect. They were absolutely fantastic, a steam engine at full power headed down the side of a cliff.

'What A Day' in particular, but the entire last half hour...

I know every show couldn't be at that level but it'd be a shame if they didn't play a few more shows, they're at full power.

(Jon L), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

did I mention they were at full power

(Jon L), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

so it was a power full peformance then?

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know milton there's a certain romance to the idea of getting together once & once only, demonstrating that you have not only the power but the full fucking power, then stopping. That said, I foresee at least one repeat performance for the true TG headz down in Morris Heights

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I am all for romance. A tour would be pushing it.

btw, for others in attendance; the madman at stage left in the bowler, long beard and stripes: that was John Balance.

(Jon L), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Throbbing Gristle on iBooks...yuck!


I'm Cosey, and my Apple saved christmas!!

gross.


ddb, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

ah so THAT's who Clockwork Liquorice Allsort was - he walked up onto the stage at one point to say something to Christopherson - and Cosey seemed to be be giving him a telling off for doing so...

did they go from 'what a day' straight into a version of 'discipline' to finish - or was there another similar piece in between the 2 ?

'true TG headz' (grrrrr)

i hope they just do next yrs ATP festival and then stop

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)

i listened to this lying in a park earlier. it was great.

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

My pal Midnight Mike has informed me that if you phone Mute Bank (Mute mailorder) on 020 8964 0029 you can purchase vinyl and cd copies of the TGNOW release. It's not on the website - you have to phone. I was just about to bid a stupid amount on Ebay so thanks Mike for the lowdown!

stirmonster, Thursday, 20 May 2004 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

just to clarify: is TGNOW the same cd you were referring to in your first post on this thread?

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

yup, it's the cd / lp of NEW material. it's amazing,

stirmonster, Thursday, 20 May 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm listening to someting called "Mutant Tg Advance" I downloaded. The year is listed as 2004. It is really dancey. What is this?

Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Friday, 21 May 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks for the heads-up, stirmonster; just ordered the cd...

toby (tsg20), Friday, 21 May 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

? I just got a private number when I dialled that - he even read it back to me...

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 21 May 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Buck 65 claims in The Wire that TG were a huge influence.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

you must have misdialled...

toby (tsg20), Friday, 21 May 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

aldo - i misdialled the first time too. it IS the right number though.

Buck 65 claims in The Wire that TG were a huge influence.


saw that but it's a little different from gen's claim that he gets stopped in the street by the rza.

stirmonster, Friday, 21 May 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

the mutant tg advance thing is the remix album, btw.

i think i might listen to tgnow really loud in a bit.

toby (tsg20), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.throbbing-gristle.com/tg/retgstatement3.html

my copy arrived yesterday :-)

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus, that's it!?@!?!?! http://www.throbbing-gristle.com/tg/performance.html

Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I seem to recall P-Orridge "reforming" Throbbing Gristle for a one-off gig in London sometime in the late 80s/ early 90s. He was the only one there but he certainly billed it as "Throbbing Gristle". A veil has obviously been drawn over this incident.

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Mine too (lp version)

what other items?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

when i rang up they said they had cd/lp versions for sale, and didn't mention anything else. so i'm presuming that's all there was. are either of them limited?!

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

the genesis tg reformation in the early 90's was billed as TGLTD.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Carl Craig is a huge TG fan.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

The long-delayed Big Baby Jesus solo joint will consist entirely of a slammin' new version of "Hamburger Lady" that clocks in at 45 minutes and features the best freestyle in years

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
I had NO idea that the "Ratcliffe" mix of Hot On The Heels For Love was Simon Ratcliffe! This would explain why I love this song so much!

Baby BobO (nordicskilla), Friday, 1 July 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

SUNDAY 21st JUNE - LONDON

HEAVEN
The Arches, Villiers Street, Charing Cross, London. UK.

'A Crisis In Taste'
THROBBING GRISTLE + S.C.U.M.
(myspace.com/scum1968)
DJs TBC

ONLY 60 TICKETS REMAINING !

Tickets £17.50 + booking fee. Exclusively via ticketweb.com
Limited number of tickets for 16 years old + (age proof ID required) @ £8 (+booking fee)
Also 14 years old+ @ £8 (with adult full priced ticket +booking fee)
Doors Open 4pm - Please Note: this event ENDS at 8PM

just bought tix for this. no idea what it is gonna be like. will any 16 year olds actually attend (let alone 14 yos)? if they do i'm sure sleazy will be pleased...

rio (r1o natsume), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:42 (seventeen years ago)

balls, already in berlin for my birthday that weekend

straightola, Friday, 6 March 2009 09:16 (seventeen years ago)

aaarrgh.. sold out it seems

mmmm, Friday, 6 March 2009 10:44 (seventeen years ago)

fuck

edible wife (gnarly sceptre), Friday, 6 March 2009 12:06 (seventeen years ago)

has anyone heard that Early Worm LP then?

zappi, Friday, 6 March 2009 12:07 (seventeen years ago)

no, but i've got a track from it called "the balloon burst" on that 23 ways to guestling tape that came out. very very lofi recording, chanting, primitive drumming, harmonica and various other noises. can upload if you want.

according to that coum book, there is only one copy of the lp and gen is the owner.

rio (r1o natsume), Friday, 6 March 2009 12:15 (seventeen years ago)

I downloaded the Early Worm LP from an mp3 blog a few days ago. Haven't listened to it yet though. Maybe it's an elaborate ruse by another music message board!

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Friday, 6 March 2009 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

cool share the link then holmes

rio (r1o natsume), Friday, 6 March 2009 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

:( unfortunately I just went through my Google reader to find it and it's been removed - I guess it's just been reissued?

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Friday, 6 March 2009 12:28 (seventeen years ago)

yep, looks like it was reissued last year, my bad. check mutant sounds.

rio (r1o natsume), Friday, 6 March 2009 12:30 (seventeen years ago)

Hah that's where I got it from

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Friday, 6 March 2009 12:31 (seventeen years ago)

well it's gone now. guess the label asked him to take it down. judging by the one track i've got, i won't be buying it.

rio (r1o natsume), Friday, 6 March 2009 12:34 (seventeen years ago)

ya i meant the reissue
not expecting much obv

zappi, Friday, 6 March 2009 12:39 (seventeen years ago)


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