Anyone heard the Dresden Dolls CD yet?

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I have an mp3 of "Girl Anachronism" and rather like it. None of the record stores in my area carry the album so I'm wondering if it's solid all the way through and worth a special order. Anyone?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I preferred the previous live record to the studio debut. Still haven't given the s/t record what I would consider a fair shake yet, but "Girl Anachronism" is probably the strongest song on it. The live version of "Coin-Operated Boy" on A Is For Accident is far superior to the studio version. Anyway, just order it from the band and paypal it, that is what i did, and it came pretty fast in the post.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard an album by them, that wasn't live, so if they only have one then yes, Ive heard this one.

Friends played Coin Operated Boy on their college radio station, pretty good.

David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Buy it: at least half a dozen songs as strong as 'Coin Operated Boy'. I've been playing it for more than a month. Beautiful digipak with lavishly collaged booklet.

The live CD is 'A is for accident', a compilation of recordings from 2001-03. I got mine from the Important Records site, and they may still have some. More ballad-oriented, and gives Amanda more of a chance to stretch out her lovely voice, but you'll need both discs in the end.

S

Soukesian, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the record is excellent, but I'm hesitant to recommend it ouright because they seem to be one of those love-or-hate bands that you need to check out for yourself. Their site has several tracks (and the "Girl Anachronism" video) available for download, including the live version of "Coin-Operated Boy" mentioned above.

rainman (rainman), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember seeing the video for "Girl Anachronism" on MTV2 the other night and thinking "holy shit, why is MTV showing something as whacked-out as this?"

You heard it here first, hipsters: Victorian undergarments are the new trucker hats.

Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Think the album is great - they describe it as "cabaret punk" on their website, which nearly sums them up. Throw in some Nick Cave and a tiny bit of Diamanda Galas and there you have it.

I am bit biased, since they've been playing around here in Boston for the past couple years building up their following. Now they are on MTV2, unbelievable! I remember walking down Harvard Square like 4 years ago and seeing Amanda (lead singer) dressing up as an 8 Foot Bride. It was a sight to behold.

The album is more accessible then the live disc, but if you fall for one of 'em, you are going to want the other.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm looking forward to getting this. I heard "Coin-Operated Boy" on the radio the other day, and immediately made a note for my next record-store trip...

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I was just listening to this album online - I've actually heard "The Jeep Song" on the radio in the past. Weird how it's like the subject-matter twin of Imarobot's "Black Jettas."

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Funny because I've never really seen many black jeeps in Boston. Not that I own a car, of course.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"I remember seeing the video for "Girl Anachronism" on MTV2 the other night and thinking "holy shit, why is MTV showing something as whacked-out as this?""

Yeah, I finally saw it on Subterranean last night. I think that's the best video I've ever seen on that show. I definitely need this record. Thanks guys.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
OK so I got both DD CDs in the mail today, and like them both very much so far. One question for anyone who has an original pressing of "A is for Accident":
Mine is apparently a reissue. It says copyright 2004, 8ft002, etc. The liner notes refer to a track 11 featuring a guest guitarist and bass player. Mine has 10 tracks. What song was it? Worth tracking down/downloading? Or is it just a misprint?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 3 June 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ehm i'll check when i get home for you.
how did i miss this thread? i've been a fan from the start and waiting for the DD name to surface over here.

kephm, Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I think track 11 is/was their "Stand By Your Man" cover (which SUCKS from a fidelity perspective, but OK as far as the actual cover) - I don't have the CD in front of me, but that's what my burrito-filled gut thinks.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

they did an excellent fugazi cover (cant think of the song name) a few weeks back when they opened for Mission of Burma.

braiwashed.com has the DD website with a v. active forum btw

kephm, Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

is it me or is this the WORST BAND NAM EVER?

HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I can think of worse.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

oh its just you. the blow monkeys win the prize.

jon, we should make noize together sometime. but not in providence, i hate that hellhole

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kephm, Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

kephm, where are you from???!??

HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

19 miles west of boston.

kephm, Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate boston

HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, you and the rest of the world. but noize?

kephm, Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand the Boston hate. Unless you are a fan of the NY Yankees.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

(sterling clover piece)

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0428/clover.php

kephm, Friday, 16 July 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they are making fun of the name of the New York Dolls, who were a band in the '70s.

HA! They are named after an old song by the Fall! Maybe the Fall was making fun of NYD, I dunno.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 16 July 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

not true. i asked amanda once & she said its more about the dichotomy between dresden china and the dresden fires

kephm, Friday, 16 July 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, straight from the horses mouth, eh?
Seb Wood: There's a song by The Fall called 'Dresden Dolls Backdrop' (Dresden dolls and nazi boys dance arm in arm to formless noise...). Are you named after this song ?? If so, have you been inspired by The Fall's post-punk eccentricity in say, their ballet 'I am Kurious Orange' ?? 

Amanda Palmer: I am a Fall fan, I got into them way back in High School (though they were sort of past their prime by then, that was in the mid-90's). But the name references several things at once....the Fall song, a VC Andrews novel, the porcelain figures themselves, and the firebombing, which everybody knows was a disaster of epic proportions. 

six of one half dozen of the other. everyone wins-except for Sterling and his NYD thing.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 16 July 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i should of wrote "partial truth" in my previous post. i am led to believe amanda& brian want to downplay the fall as a reference point, as their sound is something other.


kephm, Friday, 16 July 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)


we're headed into the studio today (camp street, with sean slade) to put "war pigs" onto magentic tape for posterity. there's been talk of using it on the next Rock Against Bush compilation...though i think a better idea would be to rent a red white and blue hearse during the Republican National Convention and blast it through speakers from the roof while driving around NYC. so many ideas, so little time.

kephm, Friday, 16 July 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

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fair enough, like the Interpol interview where one of them tells the other, "Don't let anyone see you reading that Joy Division biography", although Interpol isn't fooling anyone ever about that.

The DD don't sound anything like the Fall, though. No worries there, I'd think.

Hey, a Sab. cover? Cool!

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 16 July 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

>everyone wins-except for Sterling and his NYD thing.<

??????

http://www.popfactor.com/tmftml/

THERE WAS A TIME, NOW VERY FAR AWAY

Were we callow young twenty-somethings, free from the burdens of context and the anxieties of influence, wrapped up in the blissful delusion that there's something innovative or unique in the music of recent favorites (off the top of our heads) Franz Ferdinand, The Strokes, or Interpol, we would probably find this Dresden Dolls review to be horribly condescending and crude (assuming that we were swift enough to notice that the urine was being retrieved from our persons in the first place, which is a big assumption). Fortunately, we are not twenty-somethings: We've heard of Joy Division,
Television, and glam. So we think it's pretty fucking great.

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etienne, Friday, 16 July 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i enjoyed sterlings article but i dont think anyone else 'gets it'

kephm, Friday, 16 July 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

He's doing like a faux-naive thing right? I thought I "got it". It was funny. My everyone wins except sterling thing was a joke.
...unless I'm missing sonething?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 16 July 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

by 'anyone' i meant other dolls fans i know IRL. anyways, you should listen to some rare tracks up on the website today. i am going to audio out them to tape, eq & burn them while i have the chance (and yes, then go buy them when they come out official)

fwiw, i think people will never embrace the dolls anyways. the main reason being the whole what-appears-to-be-goth-nonsense-on-the-surface- will be an instant turn-off.

but who knows, there were plenty of converted mission of burma fans at the avalon show last month. still, if they ever do get their 15minutes of fame ILM will hate them more than catpower and int3rpol but maybe not quite as much as DMB

kephm, Friday, 16 July 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

the war pigs cover was great but i won a buck on a bet about the "pierre" who didn't care thing!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 17 July 2004 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

the whole what-appears-to-be-goth-nonsense-on-the-surface- will be an instant turn-off.

I see your point. When I first saw the Girl Anachronism video and the white face paint I thought "uh oh, what kind of poseur bullshit is this gonna be?" My fears were assuaged as soon as that monster fucking piano riff kicked in, though.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 17 July 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

And the rest of the video (makeup aside) rules as I said upthread. I downloaded the mp3 immediately and ordered the albums after consulting here. Surely anyone with potential to be a fan in the first place would be able to get past any "ewwwww, icky goths" prejudice?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 17 July 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I love these people. Sadly, nearly all of my friends who I've played them to have been completely put off by Amanda's voice.

Simon H., Saturday, 17 July 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm diggin' it so far

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 26 July 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing I love about this band is the way that brutally personal lyrics are married to very campy theatrical performance. It's all very consonant with the mid-70s glam roots of goth. (I mean that in a GOOD way, of course.)

I don't know if anyone's seen the Sensational Alex Harvey Band's performance of Brel's 'Next!' on the BBC Old Grey Whistle Test program? Imagine that, but with Nina Hagen on vocals. Sparks are in there too somewhere.

Soukesian, Monday, 26 July 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw the Girl Anachronism video on Rage and immediately went online to download whatever was on their site. Got me very excited, probably because it stood out so much from the Keane (etc.) videos being played, but yeah - wow, makes an impression.

I think enough people will like it for them to have a good career, even though there will be the haters. But yeah, think of Tori Amos or someone like that. Not that I'm making a lazy musical comparison. There are some similarities there, but I mean in fan terms, when people like that like you they REALLY like you for a LONG time.

PT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Dresden Dolls video played next to Keane? That's too perfect. They are the anti-Keane. And I am people like that.

Soukesian, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
dolls play Jimmey Kimmel Show thursday night. i hope they get to chat with him for a bit

kephm, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

my god do i hate this so. not my bag.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

love them or hate them it seems. i dont have bags, life would get way too boring.

kephm, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

me and wifey rocked out to it during our 12 hour car ride home

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

DD on Kimmel in about 20min.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 20 August 2004 06:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay they played "Girl Anachronism" and then "Coin-Operated Boy" during the fade out. The drummer was really kick ass and some of Amanda's facial expressions (along with the face paint) reminded me of The Joker in Batman.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

So, do you think she listens to a lot of Nico?

nono, Saturday, 21 August 2004 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
OMG DID ANYONE ELSE SEE THE COIN OPERATED BOY VIDEO ON SUBTERRANEAN?

It's even cooler than the Girl Anachronism one.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yep, just caught it last night!

i wonder if they're gonna get huge.

reo, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

well, they sold out all their la and chicago dates last month. i think this is as big as they will get in the states

kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

& god the sound on the Kimmel show was horrible, they were also very nervous, but it was nice to see them looking at each other for support

kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Coin-Operated Boy video online now.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 27 September 2004 00:13 (twenty years ago)

A first for me: every thing I liked about this cd COMPLETELY DISAPPEARED on second listen, to be replaced by the feeling of being duped by a couple of pretentious locals who listened to the "The Wall" a lot as teenagers but are too cool for that now. All the good melodies are stolen (from Sebadoh, from Pink Floyd, from the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang soundtrack), the lyrics are muddled and middle-brow (she doesn't want a coin-operated boy, she wants a spring- or battery-operated one), the musicianship is more gimmicky than passionate or virtuosic, any hints of eroticism are immediately eclipsed by silly goth "black like my soul" nonsense -- feh. I am pleased that I didn't buy the cd.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:53 (twenty years ago)

They made me think of the slits doing brecht when i heard them.

leigh (leigh), Monday, 27 September 2004 11:29 (twenty years ago)

Colin has issues with goths

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:42 (twenty years ago)

It's not so much that I have issues with them as it is that I reject any goth claims to aesthetic competance, let alone superiority.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago)

All the good melodies are stolen

I swear "The Jeep Song" nearly = The Magnetic Fields "I Have The Moon".
I still like this record a lot. Maybe the second half drags a bit.
I don't think this is a GREAT album, but I think this band may have the potential to make a great one someday.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago)

They were somewhat disappointing live.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago)

they are at their best live. which show did you see?

kephm, Monday, 27 September 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Saw them at the Cafe du Nord show here in SF.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago)

http://www.spiritv.de/


anyone know German?

kephm, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:17 (twenty years ago)

babelfish!

kephm, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago)

My German is not the best, but from what I made out of it:

It basically is just a bio on them, how they got started, where they are from, and how they have German influences (Brecht). The album has been released in Germany and they are thinking about touring there at the end of September?

I think the audio clips go to interviews of them talking. I can't go to them at the moment (at work).

BTW - Those are the most NORMAL pictures of Amanda and Brian I have ever seen.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago)

offstage they can appear quite 'normal' (well, minus amandas eyebrows)

kephm, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago)

It's not a critical article, just a fairly boring interview; I assume that the audio clips are in English and are what the article has been translated into.

Austria's FM4 has been absolutely orgasmic about the Dolls, although they've rightly given them shit for calling themselves "Brechtian" when they might be called "Weillian" at best -- you say Brechtian over here, and people want political content.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Google says:
Dresden Dolls, that are Amanda Palmer and Brian Viglione. However differently than the name it to assume leaves, comes it not from the city in the east of Germany, but from Boston at the east coast of the United States. Their music, which they describe as Brecht Punk Cabaret, has however German influences. Audio: Brecht Punk Cabaret with a certain?Spirit? also first meeting the two had to do. Amanda, which lives in an artist community at the edge of Boston, gave a party in the year 2000, with which Brian went past completely coincidentally. Audio: The first meeting Amanda Palmer - Vocals and piano of beginning got themselves Amanda and Brian still further musicians in addition. However they stated fast that this volume took more than there were it. Thus they decided to rather make itself secondly further. The texts Dresden Dolls originate all together from the feather/spring from Amanda, the music develop both together. It at the piano and Brian at the schlagzeug. Audio: Development of the Songs the Songs of the two constantly develop themselves further. They are pressed sometime also times on CD, but who is visited a Dresden Dolls concert to state that they interpret their songs live completely differently than on that CD. Brian Viglione - Drums audio:: Studio and live differentiated at all stands out the Show Dresden Dolls against those other volume. Like dolls made up and kostuemiert much reminds on the stage of performance art. Nevertheless it attaches both the importance to the fact that the showing is material and not when piece is to be understood. Audio: Buehnenshow who a picture of Dresden Dolls to make would like myself, can this to do. Since at the beginning of September is their debut album in Germany available and still in September comes here the two on route by Germany.  

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:48 (twenty years ago)

Wellian, true.
So was Brecht Modern or Post Modern? Anyways, I think the labeling has more to do with the Brechts epic theatre than his poli-writing collectives? I agree, it isn't 100% accurate.

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kephm, Monday, 27 September 2004 19:49 (twenty years ago)


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