Def Leppard 'Hysteria': C/D?

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This was one of my favourite records as a very young chap. Haven't listened to it in years. You guys all hate it, right?

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

GOOD LORD NO.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, this is pretty indisputably classic

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

man for a sec i thought gil meche started this thread

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

You'll find some general rambling on the band here but I'm content to turn this into a '50 reasons why Hysteria is so goddamn great' thread, so:

1) That weird-ass a capella bit at the start of the album version of "Rocket" -- and the way it's chopped up, reused, referred to and more throughout the song.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I LOVE HYSTERIA.
It was my age 15 album.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Good thing, Ned.
My brother is still not able to hear someone say 'good times' with adding 'drums!' afterward. Apparently a line from that album.
My first ever MTV experience was watching the video to 'Pour some Sugar on Me.' I was/am from Canada. I actually would like to buy a copy of that album; it's probably really cheap now.

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

This is one of the few albums from the hair-metal era that I like.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

2) The main guitar melody on "Dogs of War" -- pure glam descend/power of command/inexpressible this-is-IT focus.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess this is all insisputably the beat Def Lepard album?

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

3) ONE LUMP OR TWO?????

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

4) Tying into Dan's reference, the fact that it's actually an industrial-pop album most of the time. Turn the vocals gutteral and make all the guitars ugly synth noises (instead of pretty synth noises) and HOLY MOTHER OF GOD.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

5) laughing your ass off like fucking crazy the first time you see the british version of the 'pour some sugar on me' video

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

6) WHAT'S THAT SMELL???

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

3) The intro to the same song: flanged drums!

(x-post -> now #5. I'm talking about "Gods of War".)

(Isn't it "Guitar! Drums!"?)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

7) the supersheen call and response "AND I WANT - AND I NEED" at the end of "animal"

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess this is all insisputably the beat Def Lepard album?

I'd have to say so, you'll find disagreements of course. But I dunno...

8) Goddamn is the start of "Love Bites" weird and queasy. It's a power ballad but it isn't.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

perhaps I'm showing my age, but I much prefer PYROMANIA. They didn't get much better than "Photograph" as far as hooks go.

steeve mcqueen (steeve mcqueen), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

10) the way between "pour some sugar on me" and the crue's "home sweet home" you have like five years at number one on dial mtv.

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

11) The momentous intro to "Women"

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, "Gods of War," I goofed up there, d'oh!

Number 7 OTMFM.

12) the buildup to the chorus of "Run Riot" is so fucking great -- the missing fake-rebellion-as-anthemic-noise link between Sweet's "Teenage Rampage" and the Prodigy's "Firestarter."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

LADY MS LUREX TO THREAD DAMMIT

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

12) That they all gave themselves titles like "Wing Commander"

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

13) the way "pour some sugar on me" was kept outta the number one spot by a power ballad (cheap trick's "the flame") so the lep went "oh, so it's like that huh? DEPLOY POWER BALLAD" and next thing you know "love bites" is the number one single.

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

14) Mutt Lange. I mean, that goes without saying.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

15. Great liner notes.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

16) ARMAGEDDON IT.. ARE YOU GETTING IT?

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

17) "ARE YOU EXCITABLE...ARE YOU EXCITABLE...AREYOUEXCITABLEAREYOUEXCITAREYOUAREYAREARAAAAAA..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

17) All the saccharine-dripping fruitcake call-and-response pre-chorus shit in "Hysteria": the "I gotta know tonight/It's been a lonely night/ . . ." stuff as well as the "I'm just another guy/You're just another girl/It's just another night" stuff, always punctuated by Elliot's post-Alvin "Ooooh"s.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually we're up to number 19 with that last one, next one needs to be 20!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Lep's "Rocket" vs Smashing Pumpkins' "Rocket".
I know this is a Def Leppard appreciation thread, but I've got to side with Billy & Co. It's close, though.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

they're closer than you think!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

20) Speaking of "Rocket," how great is the video midsong break to T. Rex? Now that's a goddamn homage worthy of the name.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

AH NOOOOOOO FLASHBACKS FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL


and i hated the drum sound.

Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

21) The first low vocodered "She's so dangerous" in "Don't Shoot Shotgun".

TS: Lep's "Rocket" vs Smashing Pumpkins' "Rocket"

DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

22) YAY THAT DRUM SOUND! Rick Allen loses an arm, Lange gets millions in digital drum technology to fool around with = echoing domination from the heights.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

22) oh god that weird ass 'rooowww, Rooooow, ROOOOOW' backward (?) part of the guitar solo, such awesomeness

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

23) might be one of the most over-produced albums EVERRR

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm just another guy/You're just another girl/It's just another night" stuff

Oh wait, this one is actually in "Love and Affection".

24) "Hysteria" and "L&A" blend into one giant smeared-out falsetto ballad epic.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It's taken 20 years for me to discern any melodies at all in the oceanic whooshing and wind-whipping of this record. As a Def Leppard album I dud it, but as a triumph of production over band it's classic.

High N' Dry for this teenybopper.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

25) Hysteria:Ian::Loveless:Dr C

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

26) haha better drum sound than Loveless

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"All the saccharine-dripping fruitcake call-and-response pre-chorus shit in "Hysteria": the "I gotta know tonight/It's been a lonely night..."

It's actually, "I gotta know tonight/If your alone tonight"...;)

I memorized the lyrics from my brother's Hit Parader when I was in junior high. It doesn't get much better than "Hysteria" for power ballad goodness.

kickitcricket, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"If you're alone tonight"

kickitcricket, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Mutt Lange is a genius as I only recently realised/appreciated properly

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Dud. I'm as big a Chuck Eddy (and Ned Raggett!) fan as you'll find, but I just can't imagine why Chuck felt it deserved an entire book, because 90% of it absolutely refused to imprint itself on my memory. (Any one of their previous three, particularly Pyromania, is more worthy of praise.) Simply inferior to all its obvious sources of influence, and probably the single most lifeless "heavy metal" artifact I've ever tried to listen to (and once owned). Goes in one ear, and...nothing. I just don't get it.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

27) *Weird guitar noises* "AN-I-MAL"

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

28) I need to go buy this album on my lunch break now.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

28) "Skin on skin ... let the love begin!"

Conor (Conor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm as big a Chuck Eddy (and Ned Raggett!) fan

! Why I'm flattered, but I don't think I've quite deserved to be spoken of in the same breath. ;-)

30) To perhaps answer Myonga's point -- as I said it's an industrial-pop album in ways, but more to the point it's a pop album straight up. A huge over-the-top one of course, but that's precisely its appeal for me at least, it's a place where x ALWAYS equals x. Literally half the album became singles that charted, and while that doesn't rival all but two songs off Thriller going top ten, say, it's still something. So it CAN catch, but I think thinking of it as a heavy metal album, quotes or no quotes, actually isn't the best or only way to regard it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Now available on all your favourite streaming services

http://teamrock.com/news/2018-01-19/def-leppard-now-on-streaming-services-announce-hysteria-uk-and-ireland-tour

groovypanda, Friday, 19 January 2018 10:48 (seven years ago)

!

Johnny Fever, Friday, 19 January 2018 12:58 (seven years ago)

Great that finally worked out for them. (The band obv, screw the label.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 January 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)

yessssssssss

Spottie, Friday, 19 January 2018 16:39 (seven years ago)

I'm a HUGE Def Leppard fan ("Hysteria" is my favorite album), and I'm so glad their catalog is finally available digitally.

With that said, I've got to say the recent Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction news for Bon Jovi kinda bugged me, so I put together a detailed "face-off" comparing the 2 bands to show which one is REALLY more "worthy" of the honor.

I think you'll find it interesting...Feel free to share it!

"Bon Jovi, but not Def Leppard? For Shame Rock & Roll Hall of Fame!"
https://www.nostalgiclogic.com/bon-jovi-not-def-leppard-shame/

Nostalgic Logic, Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:17 (seven years ago)

posting the same post on two different threads is about as necessary as a drummer having two arms

del griffith, Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:12 (seven years ago)

MEAN

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:27 (seven years ago)

it can be frustrating dealing with dismissive co-workers, those who are very comfortable routinely doing the same inefficient thing over and over. These folks have simply “accepted” the way things are done, and the most effort you’ll get from them is when they challenge your new ideas.

i am a skinematographer (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:31 (seven years ago)

Promo photo for the forthcoming tour is textbook 'men who look like old lesbians' tbh.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Sunday, 21 January 2018 13:09 (seven years ago)

Love bites, Animal & Hysteria are all still 10/10

i know kore-eda (or something), Sunday, 21 January 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)

Here in Greenville, as the second year of Trump dawned, Stormy Daniels spread out a taupe fleece blanket on stage, dropped to her knees, arched her back and began to squirt a bottle of lotion onto her chest to the sound of “Animal” by Def Leppard, as the president’s face flashed on video screens behind her.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:12 (seven years ago)

Love bites, Animal & Hysteria are all still 10/10

And Armageddon It too surely

groovypanda, Monday, 22 January 2018 09:13 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

Euphoria hitting the spot this morning. Not as familiar with this album but it seems more of a successor to Hysteria than Adrenalize was

chonky floof (groovypanda), Friday, 7 August 2020 10:41 (five years ago)

two years pass...

The way the first verse of Sugar is just these massive Tackhead Test Dept jackhammer beats and nothing else for 11 seconds

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 24 November 2022 17:58 (two years ago)

I remember reading that the snare sound is this pile of sampled hand claps and just about everything but acoustic snare.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:00 (two years ago)

Probably why it sounds like tissue paper

a blunt toothcomb (Matt #2), Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:20 (two years ago)

The way the first verse of Sugar is just these massive Tackhead Test Dept jackhammer beats and nothing else for 11 seconds


Yes. This album is incredible, I really fell for it hard the last couple of years.

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:52 (two years ago)

I think if this album had failed commercially it would have inspired a hipster hair metal reevaluation in the 2010s

“uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Friday, 25 November 2022 01:56 (two years ago)

The album that came after Pyromania. Nothing else.

Part of this is personal; Pyromania was the soundtrack to my 8th Grade, the album that burned the brightest as I tried to learn about hard rock music without the benefit of a Kiss-loving older brother or sister, the biggest gateway for all that came afterwards.

But the thing about gateways is that you move onto other things from them, and by the time Hysteria came out I was past radio fare (actually was probably dealing with that familiar stupid adolescent rebellion towards what I once loved) and was into underground stuff and the burgeoning thrash scene was as "mainstream" as I was willing to go with. Hysteria was a blip on my radar.

But part of this is more objective, since Pyromania shits over Hysteria no matter what criteria one wishes to employ.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:20 (two years ago)

"number of songs with puns in the lyrics"?

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:23 (two years ago)

two years pass...

7372726) they yell in harmony, it’s so cool.

brimstead, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 01:43 (four months ago)

Is Mutt in that wall of shout mix, too?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 08:33 (four months ago)

Years ago I was randomly listening to Billy Ocean's "Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car", which I must have heard a thousand times in 1988 (along with "Hysteria"). It came to the "I said open the door/get in the back ..." call and response section and suddenly the light bulb went off in my head. That was the moment when I realized it was a Mutt Lange production (which I never knew before) that used the same massed vocal production techniques as "Hysteria". My mind was blown.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 08:42 (four months ago)

Same in the Cars and Foreigner. Listen to, say, "Hello" or "Urgent," respectively.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 10:14 (four months ago)

A few Shania Twain songs like "I'm Gonna Getcha Good" have that same call-and-response. The hallmarks of a Mutt production are being big and bright, and having those vocal stacks

Vinnie, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 10:28 (four months ago)

I need a playlist of all of his stuff

calstars, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 11:13 (four months ago)

It's called "life."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 11:25 (four months ago)

Just found this one on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5mMK085PGn71nQHfZdNcZz?si=GlULBXnZQvawhuWdS7pQlA&pi=8rx_q6KaTpi4R

Several surprises on there for me: he produced "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)"?

Vinnie, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 11:44 (four months ago)

That song has such big gaps after each line of the pre-chorus and chorus, wonder how he resisted throwing in a vocal stack of "it's not worth dying for"

Vinnie, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 11:48 (four months ago)

dang I really really love this album

7372727) “when you get that feeling (when you get that feeling) when you start believing (when you start believing)” -> one of the best evocations of falling in love ever

brimstead, Saturday, 29 March 2025 00:49 (four months ago)

otm - it’s my all-time favorite Def Lep song!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 March 2025 01:46 (four months ago)

It's called "life."

a+

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 March 2025 01:55 (four months ago)

It really is the best album

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Saturday, 29 March 2025 04:07 (four months ago)

Such truth.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 March 2025 04:21 (four months ago)

Whoa, I didn’t know he worked on those classic AC/DC songs

whisper of milk (morrisp), Saturday, 29 March 2025 05:10 (four months ago)

my go to (non def lep) alb for that mutt sound is waking up the neighbors. sadly, it’s very good, and feels v much like hysterias cousin. thought I’d died and gone to heaven, depend on me (the middle section til the end), if you wanna leave me, is your momma gonna miss ya, vanishing, do I have to say the words, all I want is you, don’t drop that bomb, not guilty… could draw a nearly direct line to most hysteria tracks from those

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Saturday, 29 March 2025 07:29 (four months ago)

They don’t really get talked about anymore, but those two albums Mutt Lange produced for The Boomtown Rats sound excellent. I think he produced The Fine Art of Surfacing right around the same time he did Highway To Hell

I really don’t listen much to Def Leppard, but “Animal” is just a massive, incredible song that 100% earns its awesomeness. Joe Elliot OTM: “If you can’t handle the responsibility of a hit single, don’t write one."

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:10 (four months ago)

my go to (non def lep) alb for that mutt sound is waking up the neighbors. sadly, it’s very good, and feels v much like hysterias cousin. thought I’d died and gone to heaven, depend on me (the middle section til the end), if you wanna leave me, is your momma gonna miss ya, vanishing, do I have to say the words, all I want is you, don’t drop that bomb, not guilty… could draw a nearly direct line to most hysteria tracks from those

― lil $CHUB (Spottie),

"Can't Stop This Thing We Started."

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 March 2025 09:43 (four months ago)

Gonna have to get in the mindset that I’m listening to a mutt Lange album and not a Bryan Adams one

calstars, Saturday, 29 March 2025 11:15 (four months ago)

I got through maybe 5 songs on waking up the neighbors while raking up my yard this morning pre-coffee. Yeah sounds like hysteraua’s half brother. Closer than a cousin. Mutt must have been smiling when he put it together.

calstars, Saturday, 29 March 2025 23:05 (four months ago)


"Can't Stop This Thing We Started."


For sure, I kinda left off the big hits but that one def has the feel.

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Sunday, 30 March 2025 17:28 (four months ago)

do I have to say the words

lol this song, i just adored it as a boy. still something touching about the shape of the chorus - the questions sung like interlocutions between that big lead guitar hook.

glum mum (map), Sunday, 30 March 2025 17:55 (four months ago)

yeah it kinda squirrels its way to its chorus

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 March 2025 18:06 (four months ago)

That’s my fav one

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Sunday, 30 March 2025 18:53 (four months ago)

I got in the car twice today. The first time “Hysteria” was on the radio when I turned on the engine and the second time it was “Pour Some Sugar on Me.”

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Sunday, 30 March 2025 20:01 (four months ago)

the guitar solo in the title track is kind of a curveball, right? you would expect some screechy pyrotechnics but it kinda sounds like it should be on a replacements or crowded house album or something.

brimstead, Sunday, 30 March 2025 21:11 (four months ago)

Yah def more of a guitar break than a solo

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Sunday, 30 March 2025 23:00 (four months ago)

Cranking this album today ... forgot how much "Armageddon It" rules.

alpine static, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 20:14 (four months ago)

Yeah it's one of the more straightforward songs and yet probably also my favourite ?? After "Rocket" at least

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 21:44 (four months ago)

C'mon, Steve ... get it!

alpine static, Thursday, 3 April 2025 02:04 (four months ago)


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