― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 22 May 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)
also like the Ward 21 chorus: "we bun a playa haters everyday - yeah yeah!" and the orgasmic girlie "la di-da di-da" bit on Ninja Kid & Bajie Man's track.Zumjay's version has bizarro ancient Babylonian/Egyptian epic backing vocals.
― Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 22 May 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 22 May 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― djdee2005, Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 23 May 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― djdee2005, Sunday, 23 May 2004 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Sunday, 23 May 2004 08:51 (twenty-one years ago)
He's also fond of Nina Sky's "Move Ya Body" take on the "Coolie Dance."
Separately in the same NY Times issue there's a piece by Vibe magazine's Rob Kenner on Coxone Dodd's "Real Rock" riddim and how it's been used over the years, most recently by Sizzla.
― Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Sunday, 23 May 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― djdee2005, Sunday, 23 May 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 24 May 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 24 May 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)
I really like Doctor's Orders by Beenie Man & Cecile. Sounds like a hit to me, dancehall that could crossover to the indie rock crowd!
― JoB (JoB), Monday, 24 May 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)
my dedicated rock friends (of which there are thankfully few) are actually more receptive to dancehall than anything else i like. it's weird. maybe coz it's sort of reggae-ish.
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 24 May 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)
"Kelis's pussy big like GP prison yard!"
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)
I only heard it in a mix for about two minutes so perhaps that's why it didn't begin to annoy me so much.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)
But I'm really posting again to say: GUALA GUALA RIDDIM! Oh my I've been waiting for another dense synth attack ever since Mudslide and this fits the bill so fucking perfectly. Search Vybz's "Ride In", and I'll try to come back with more recommendations a bit later.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)
The golden age is *so* still in full effect.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 3 June 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 3 June 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 June 2004 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 June 2004 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― don (don), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― don (don), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)
But it still often strikes me that the mood of many of the riddims can be a bit emotionally neutral, even if sonically astounding and unerringly funky - there's little that creates an emotional connection in the manner of, to take random hip-hop examples, Raekwon's 'Heaven and Hell' or Nas' 'One Mic'. Which is why I was knocked sideways by the Chrome riddim (more particularly, Cecile's version of it, which gives the riddim a lot of room to breathe) and the bittersweet, decaying cyber-nostalgia mood it creates. Whilst I now LOVE a lot of the more upbeat tunes, is there anything else that diverges from the template emotionally in this kind of way (I'm sure there must be, but I've had little success in finding it)?
― baboon (baboon2004), Friday, 4 June 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)
Timetravel (esp. Vybz's "Send On")Sars (esp. Wayne Wonder's "You Make My Life Complete")
And Sizzla's best stuff often has an excess, a spillover of emotional content.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 June 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 5 June 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 June 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)
*at least that's what he sounds like, could easily be younger or maybe even a bit older.
― OCP (OCP), Saturday, 5 June 2004 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 June 2004 06:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 June 2004 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 June 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 June 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 5 June 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 5 June 2004 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)
Vybz Kartel - Picture Me & You (Blackout Riddim)Chico - Bunny Hop (Bellevue Riddim)TOK - Miss Hypie Hypie (Worried Riddim)Elephant Man - Party All Night (Big Jeans Riddim)Wayne Marshall - Careful (Blue Steel Riddim)Vybz Kartel - Gyal Yu Lovely (Chronic Riddim)Sizzla - That's OK (Chrome Riddim)Ce'cile - Last Night (Day Dream Riddim)Beenie Man - Doctor's Orders (Dancehall Rock Riddim)Vybz Kartel - Pay Bill No Mine (Frontline Riddim)Tanya Stephens - To The Top (Guala Guala Riddim)Calico - When We Roll Out (Bwoila Room Riddim)Ms Thing - Mi Ah Go Laff (Mad Guitar Riddim)Vybz Kartel - Ah Ah (???)Mad Cobra - Lock It Down (Pearl Harbour Riddim)Vybz Kartel - Tight Pum Pum/Giggle (?? Giggle Riddim?)Capleton - Blazing Hot (Perilous Riddim)Elephant Man - Get On Up (Thrilla Riddim)Assassin - Nuff Gal (Mad Swing Riddim)Mr Vegas & Irishman - Never Leave You Lonely (Red Alert Riddim)Calico & Ce'cile - It's On Tonight (Safe Sex Riddim)Bling Dawg - Do Your Thing (Simm Card Riddim)Capleton - Seek & Search (Wrought Iron Riddim)Elephant Man - Summer Bounce (Summer Bounce Riddim)Ce'cile - 9 Night (Typhoon Riddim)TOK - Sex On My Mind (Maybach Riddim)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 June 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 June 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 5 June 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 June 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)
And I'm glad you seem to like "Sex On My Mind".
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 June 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)
same riddim has one of Sizzla's better over-the-top out-Capleton rants (he almost laughs at one point)which is good cos I usually prefer his crooning
Busy Signal out-Marshall's Wayne with "There I Go" which increasingly brings a smile
― Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 5 June 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago)
― stelfox, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:39 (twenty years ago)
Chico - Wrapped Up
(left click, I'm using you-send-it)
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 06:20 (twenty years ago)
ooh, and look what else is coming soon:http://www.greensleeves.net/pics/grezcd4006.jpg
still digging the dancehall rock CD loads, esp. first five songs
are the MayBach 365 or Spanush Fly rhythm albums worth checking out?
― zebedee (zebedee), Saturday, 16 October 2004 13:35 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Saturday, 16 October 2004 13:36 (twenty years ago)
So, where to start?
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 16 October 2004 14:09 (twenty years ago)
There are actually two Spanish Fly riddims - last year's one by UK producer Seani B which spawned Tubby T's awesome "Ready She Ready", and the new Greensleeves riddim album one which, from the snippets I've heard, isn't nearly as good.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 16 October 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago)
Tantrum - i'd start with the greensleeves biggest ragga dancehall anthems 2003 comp. if there's nothing on there that grabs you, probably not much point in going any further. if some tracks do grab you, then check out other work by the same DJs (i.e. vocalists) and/or the same producers. good luck!
― zebedee (zebedee), Saturday, 16 October 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago)
― ryan kuo (ryan kuo), Monday, 29 November 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago)
― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:54 (twenty years ago)
― stelfox, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 12:38 (twenty years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 25 December 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 30 December 2004 10:23 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 30 December 2004 10:25 (twenty years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 30 December 2004 11:22 (twenty years ago)
― stelfox, Thursday, 30 December 2004 12:41 (twenty years ago)
― Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)
― Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)
― djdee (djdee2005), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)
― steve-k (Steve K), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)
― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)
― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)
― stelfoxx, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)
― djdee (djdee2005), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)
― djdee (djdee2005), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)
― stelfoxx, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)
― djdee (djdee2005), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
1) the forbidden dance rhythm
2) the tok album
3) the bionic ras rhythm
4) the fowl fight rhythm
5) the my swing rhythm is actually growing on me, too
― stelfox, Monday, 25 April 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 April 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)
First he was talking about Sizzla signing with Damon Dash's hiphop empire and then-"I haven't had a chance to listen or write about dancehall as much as I would have liked to for the past 2 years, but I'm convinced that this year is going to be a really interesting one. As Buju would say, here why:
-Soca no-names and non-Jamaican neo-dancehall divas are burning up the summer charts. -You can now hear reggaeton playing in a Mill Valley Baskin & Robbins.
If you count the Caribbean influence on grime and crunk--that latter thing is a debate I'm dying to fire up, but not here--dancehall has conquered hip-hop in death by a thousand hybrids. And yet dancehall artists still might not win. Again, here why:
-Sean Paul's followup appears to be stalled. -Baby Cham's album is still not scheduled.-Ele and Vybz never caught flight.-Beenie Man is missing in Aruba.
The question is: did our dancehall heroes do it to themselves, or is everyone else just moving a lot faster?
And now everyone is supposedly talking about roots again. But forgive me, because this is my sound, but I gotta say this: I Wayne is not the real thing, Jah Cure can't tour for another decade, the Marleys (even those whose mother is not named Rita) always get a free pass from foreign, and all of these dudes have women problems. How long will this last?
More questions for a hot summer day."
― steve-k, Friday, 12 August 2005 12:42 (nineteen years ago)
― steve-k, Friday, 12 August 2005 12:49 (nineteen years ago)
I'm out-of-touch with dancehall these days. What do you folks think, what do you recommend? Do you agree or disagree with Jeff C.? I need a gatekeeper for the genre!
― steve-k, Friday, 12 August 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago)
Did this discussion just move to a new thread?
― Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)
The new issue of the Beat magazine('world' music mag from Los Angeles) is their annual dancehall issue. I'll have to read that to get some new ideas.
― steve-k, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago)
― jermaine (jnoble), Friday, 2 September 2005 09:41 (nineteen years ago)
also WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU PEOPLE TO TELL ME ABOUT THE JUNKO RIDDIM.
― James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:13 (nineteen years ago)
http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2JQY4DKVURZQG2RMPU54RR84YZ
― James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 00:10 (nineteen years ago)
― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:19 (nineteen years ago)
I see that Kelefah Sanneh at the NY Times is excited about the ThrowBack Giggy comp on VP (sun 11-20-05 NY Times). VP's website describes it: "Left Side & Esco present the Throwback Giggy a hot new ride on a retro riddim. Inspired by the ‘Coca Cola Bottle’ riddim of early ’90s fame.... Featured tracks include the current hit from performing duo and riddim producers Left Side & Esco “Tuck In U Belly” plus hardcore verses from Elephant Man on “Play Hard Fi Get” and “Tight” plus Vybz Kartel with “Tight ***** Gal Dem”.
― curmudgeon Steve (Steve K), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago)
― one time gaffled 'em up (one time gaffled 'em up), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago)
― curmudgeon steve (Steve K), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 04:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 04:28 (nineteen years ago)
― one time gaffled 'em up (one time gaffled 'em up), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 04:41 (nineteen years ago)
― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 01:43 (nineteen years ago)