Fleetwood Mac -- Search/Destroy

despite decades of AOR overkill, I still love the s/t '75 album and Rumours a whole bunch. sorry.

What about the Bob Welch era? I confess to liking Future Games.

I've been looking for some live material from that era for a long time - I had a tape once - destroyed about 20 years ago & haven't found a suitable replacement yet.

Since I love Tusk and I love Camper Van Beethoven, I thought "Well, CVB covering the entirety of Tusk should be great, then!". Unfortunately, this isn't the case. I'll give it a few more spins, but it was pretty disappointing. And don't be suckered in by the lure of multi-media content - it's kind of lame. There's not even any interface - just files. And there's even a file on there, left apparently by mistake, which (if you open it in a text editor) will show you the web browser history for the computer on which it was made (incl. some p0rn sites, *laugh*). C'mon people, that's just sloppy.

If it's FM in general that interests you, I'd go for the albums, as there's a whole pile of great non-radio tracks. Rumours (which at least they spelled correctly!) is the obvious starting point (that won't disappoint). Followed--controversial opinion alert!--by Tango in the Night (new agey, almost afro-poppish, with lots of synths--contains Nicks's awesome "Seven Wonders"), Fleetwood Mac (s/t), Mirage, and that's as far as I get. I'm willing to believe that Tusk is as good as some people say it is because the title track is magnificent--last time I heard it it reminded me of 112's "Dance With Me."

Destroy: "Little Lies", "Seven Wonders", "Big Love" (original version), "Tusk" (the song), "Stop Dragging My Heart Around" [Stevie Nicks w/ Tom Petty]

Destroy: "Dreams," "Don't Stop," "The Chain," etc.

And of course all of Tusk is fab.

alternatively wait for the next uncut wherein i review the current greatest hits comp.

Believe me, I have been.

Must go and buy Tusk.

D: most of the rest.

how about the coda to "Say You Love Me" -- "falling falling faaaaallling", perfect

' falling falling faaaaaling'

Sara really is one of the best songs ever.

Bare Trees
Heroes are Hard to Find
Kiln House
Penguin
Mystery To Me
Future Games

I have Bare Trees but haven't listened in a while. I remember liking it though; very mellow record. My local classic rock radio station actually played a track off it last weekend! I was randomly scanning the dial and checked them out for a bit -- they were in the midst of a "deep cuts" weekend.

Haven't heard the rest, but Mystery to Me has the totally awesome single "Hypnotized" -- definitely seek out that song if you haven't heard it, just beautiful. written by Bob Welch. And also further proof that Mick Fleetwood was a great drummer!!

i agree, but not *that* much shorter. there's really only two or three songs i would have jettisoned..

i like a lot of the stuff off of "mirage"

really, what's to destroy?

Lots and lots of talk about FM, post-75. But let's give the revival an explicit twist:

Pre-Buckingham-Nicks Fleetwood Mac: S/D

It's a shame that the revival never took off, as I might have gotten Future Games earlier.

It's really crazy...every time I think I've heard everything worth hearing by Fleetwood Mac, it turns out that I overlooked something. Anyway, Future Games: their prog rock, Pink Floyd-y album. Long songs, heavy Kirwan influence. I kind of wish they'd had another album or two in this vein (bits of Bare Trees fit that description, but only bits). Still trying to decide whether I prefer the title track, Woman of 1000 Years or Sands of Time.

I'm kind of sad that it looks (at least now) like the Fleetwood Mac reissue program is over. I'd kill to have Then Play On, Kiln House, Bare Trees, Future Games, and Mystery To Me remastered w/bonus tracks. (Also the sound of my Future Games CD is a little muddy...wonder if that's how the vinyl was or if remastering would help. On the other hand, the muddy sound does add to the spacy vibe, so maybe it's not all bad.)

As far as the question of Pre Buckingham-Nicks S/D, the answer as far as I can tell is that pretty much everything is essential. Haven't found an album yet that I don't like, and am now working on live stuff, boots, etc. Maybe the Live In Chicago isn't so hot, but I haven't heard that since I was like 12.

How fortunate you revived this, cuz I was gonna post:

Fleetwood Mac Plots Return -- With Or Without Crow

i'm certainly interested - i still think say you will was a great return to form

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU, YOU MAKE LOVING FUN!

I love this band, hence my name.

I wish LB had done more outside producing

I wonder how much money you'd have to throw at him to get him to produce an album

Sheryl Crow? Yuck.

I have Future Games on vinyl and yes I recall it having a muddy sound.

John, you were born too late. Had you been hanging around John Stewart in the late seventies, you could even have gotten Stevie to sing harmonies!

(however, how the fuck Dream Academy got him to produce and play on a track will remain a mystery. Anyone got stories?)

i don't reckon he'd be that expensive - it doesn't seem like he's ever been in demand (or is he just not a gun for hire?)

Buckingham seems like the kind of guy who, after hearing your demos, would mumble, "Mm, yeah, great, lemme think about it," then not return your phone calls for months. Meanwhile, he's adding eight million guitar overdubs and crazy harmonies.

yeah I think the deal with Buckingham as producer would be you'd have to cede total control to him. not all producers are like that and most artists can't handle it because they have been raised to think that The Artist must have The Vision etc

maybe I should call Lindsay up though and see if he's got some time in June

(however, how the fuck Dream Academy got him to produce and play on a track will remain a mystery. Anyone got stories?)

This sounds like a shot at Dream Academy. I like Dream Academy!

Anyway, Future Games: their prog rock, Pink Floyd-y album. Long songs, heavy Kirwan influence. I kind of wish they'd had another album or two in this vein

you've heard the drogonfly single, right? recorded right after welch joined i think. so spacey. the welch/kirwan lineup is my favorite

maybe I should call Lindsay up though and see if he's got some time in June

please do this

i note that he is now label-less as well. another job for four a d?

Linsey Buckingham is label-less? That's outrageous, unless it's by choice. Was it?

oh, i guess dragonfly was before welch joined, i was fooled by that youtube video. great song anyway

Ok I worship the band. But whoever wrote that 1995's Buckingham/Nicksless Time was worthwhile owes me the 60:19 that allmusic says it took me to listen to this Olive Garden rock. Seriously - remember that $15/plate dinner you had after some boring milestone in your life? The one with funky breadsticks, the "authentic" entrée created by corporate committee, the glass of wine you didn't like much but drank anyway cuz it conferred class upon you? No? Exactly! That's this album which even Mick and the McVies probably don't remember, though I bet Dave Mason and Bekka Bramlett (who learned little from ma and pa) have fond memories. So, yeah destroy.

Now watch - some freakshow will come out of the fleetwoodwork and tell us we're missing out on the good vibrations from Behind the Mask.

you know i don't even think i've heard a single note of behind the mask or time. burnette and vito can eat my asshole tbh

It'd probably taste better than this album.

ba-da-dum. *cymbal crash*

Here's a question for people more knowledgable about the Mac than I (ie, everyone): where is the awesome "Ricky" that Lovefingers posted way back from? I can't find it on any FM album, at least not with Allmusic.

b-side of little lies?

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/fleetwood_mac/little_lies___ricky/?rate

I've read good things about this new Buckingham live album.

Now watch - some freakshow will come out of the fleetwoodwork and tell us we're missing out on the good vibrations from Behind the Mask.

The two McVie singles from BTM are decent boilerplate ("Save Me" was actually a Top 40 hit).

xpost. There's this video on Youtube of the Burnette and Vito band doing "Oh Well" that's kind of hard to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fId2ZithE88&f

Have we seen this?
I firmly believe this is the best thing McVie gave the universe.

Yeah that's nice. Sounds even more sad & desperate than the album version. I just wish they'd let us see her face, though.

A pretty wonderful late Peter Green era concert has just popped up on Wolfgang's Vault. Early '70 in London. It sort of freaks me out how much neat stuff has surfaced on that site.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFkxv93JvR5/