June preliminary Pazz & Jop 2004 ballot

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Felt like posting what would be my Pazz & Jop list if the ballot were due today.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 21:23 (twenty years ago)

SINGLES:
1. David Banner "Crank It Up"
2. Westside Connection "Gangsta Nation"
3. Method Man f. Busta Rhymes "What's Happenin'"
4. Don Yute f. Ying Yang Twins "Row Da Boat"
5. C. Mob "Knuck if You Buck"
6. Courtney Love "Mono"
7. Skinny Pimp "We Came to Party"
8. Big and Rich "Wild West Show"
9. Toby Keith "Whiskey Girl"
10 Britney Spears "Toxic"

"Culo" f. Lil Jon probably belongs; sounded good when I heard the last half played on KS107.5. Other candidates: Tony Touch f. Sean Paul "Ay Ay Ay," J-Kwon "Tipsy," T.I. f. Mack 10, Trick Daddy, and Twista "Rubber Band Man Remix," Jin "Learn Chinese."

ALBUMS:
1. Courtney Love America's Sweetheart
2. Living Things Black Skies in Broad Daylight
3. The Hold Steady Almost Killed Me
4. David Banner MTA2: Baptized in Dirty Water
5. Mahjongg Machinegong
6. Icarus Line Penance Soiree
7. Will to Power Spirit Warrior
8. Country Teasers Full Moon Empty Sportsbag
9. Les Baton Rouge My Body - The Pistol

No doubt most of these won't be left standing in December. "Crank It Up" and America's Sweetheart probably would have ranked five or six on my ballot from last year. But this is pretty good for five months, especially singles. Haven't heard the Big and Rich album yet.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Here are my contenders, in no particular order, though I will say that, if the year ended today, I would definitely give the Big and Rich album 30 points. And since I like it more than any other album this decade, I can imagine giving it that many in December, as well:

albums
Archimides Badkar *Tre*,
Big & Rich *Horse of a Different Color*
Kenny Chesney *When the Sun Goes Down*
Crime in Choir *The Hoop*
Death Comet Crew *This is Riphop,*
DNA *DNA on DNA*
Living Things *Black Skies in Broad Daylight*
Montgomery Gentry *You Do Your Thing*
The Ponys *Laced With Romance*
Red Swan *After the Barn Goes,*
Kim Richey *The Collection*
Arthur Russell *The World of Arthur Russell,*
Warren Brothers, *Well-Deserved Obscurity*
Will to Power, *Spirit Warrior*
Gretchen Wilson *Here For The Party*
15.60.75, *Jimmy Bell's Still in Town*
*Monster Records: The Seventies Sampler*,
*The Third Unheard: Connecticut HipHop 1979-1983,*

singles
Big and Rich "Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)"
Big and Rich "Wild West Show,"
Jay-Z "99 Problems"
Toby Keith "Whiskey Girl"
Last Days of May "The First 7 Billion Miles"
Los Lonely Boys, "Heaven"
Courtney Love, "Mono"
Loretta Lynn featuring Jack White "Portland, Oregon"
Martina McBride "This One's for the Girls,"
Measles Mumps Rubella "Fountain of Youth,"
Montgomery Gentry "If You Ever Stop Loving Me"
Yolanda Perez con Don Cheto "Estoy Enamorada"
Red Swan "What Really Happened at Rose Lake"
Britney Spears "Toxic,"
Subterranean Masquerade "Observation Through Metamorphosis"
Gretchen Wilson, "Redneck Woman"
Ying Yang Twins featuring Lil Jon "Salt Shaker,"

chuck, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Albums that I'll actually be proud of voting for:
Nellie McKay, Get Away From Me
Streets, A Grand Don't Come For Free
Trouble Everyday, Days Vs. Nights

Albums that I could vote for since I'm actually bothering to keep them but, ugh, I'll be bummed if I can't find ten albums better than these:
Mission Of Burma, French Kicks, Sonic Youth, The Talk, Les Baton Rouge, Patterson Hood, Stereolab, Les Savy Fav.

Singles:
1) Britney Spears - "Toxic"
2) Usher - "Burn"
3) John Mayer - "Clarity"
4) J-Kwon - "Tipsy"
5) Liz Phair - "Extraordinary"
6) Ying Yang Twins - "Salt Shaker"
7) Modest Mouse - "Float On"
8) Missy Elliott - "I'm Really Hot"
9) Mario Winans feat. P. Diddy - "I Don't Wanna Know"
10) Beyonce feat. Lil' Flip - "Naughty Girl (Remix)"

You know my friend Rob told me about that Big & Rich album about three days before I read your review, Chuck. It's his favorite album of the summer...and he's a big Wilco/Big Star fan of the Jim DeRo school! Needles to say my curiousity is piqued.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago)

albums

1. streets
2. junior boys
3. wiley
4. tv on the radio
5. lil jon mixtape
6. world of arthur russell
7. infinite livez
8. dj/rupture
9. erlend oye
10. air

singles

1. lcd soundsystem
2. britney
3. ying yang
4. mya remix
5. mia
6. memphis bleek
7. snow patrol
8. usher
9. alicia keys
10. elephant man

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago)

dj /rupture album or the split-mix w/mutamassik?

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Haven't seen any writing about the new Will to Power album yet.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago)

albums
1. Animal Collective
2. Devendra Banhart
3. Erlend Oye
4. Espers
5. Yoshida/Fujii - Erans
6. Felix da Housecat
7. Squarepusher
8. Nellie McKay
9. Pan Sonic - Kesto
10. Keith F Whitman - Antithesis

singles (not ranked)
LCD Soundsystem - "Yeah"
Britney Spears - "Toxic"
Beyonce - "Naughty Girl"
Justus Kohncke - "Timecode"/"The Answer is Yes"
Jay-Z - "99 Problems"
Loretta Lynn - "Portland, Oregon"
Scissor Sisters - "Laura"
Tube & Berger w/Chrissie Hynde - "Straight Ahead"
Motorcycle - "As the Rush Comes In"
Kelis - "Trick Me"
Felix da Housecat - "Rocket Ride"

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:20 (twenty years ago)

ALBUMS
1. The Streets, A Grand Don't Come for Free (Vice) 22
2. The Hold Steady Almost Killed Me (Frenchkiss) 16
3. The Mountain Goats, We Shall All Be Free (4AD) 14
4. Ghostface, The Pretty Toney Album (Def Jam) 12
5. United State of Electronica (www.usemusic.com) 10
6. Stereolab, Margerine Eclipse (Elektra) 6
7. The Necks, Drive By (Recommended) 5
8. The Fever, Red Bedroom (Kemado) 5
9. Sonic Youth, Sonic Nurse (DGC) 5
10. Matthew Dear, Backstroke (Spectral Sound) 5

SINGLES (alphabetical):
Sleepy Brown ft. OutKast: “I Can’t Wait” (Interscope)
Cécile: “Hot Like We” (Greensleeves)
Todd Edwards & Filthy Rich ft. Damon Trueitt: “Stormy Day (Dubstrumental)” (i!)
J-Kwon: “Tipsy (Radio Mix)” (Arista)
Courtney Love: “Mono” (Virgin)
LCD Soundsystem: “Yeah (Stupid Version)” (DFA)
M.I.A.: “Galang” (Showbiz, U.K.)
Mya ft. Chingy: “Fallen (Zone 4 Remix)” (Interscope)
Strictly Kev: “Raiding the 20th Century: A History of the Cutup” (MP3)
The Streets: “Fit But You Know It” (Vice)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago)

m: this thing i downloaded off adaml entitled the "58.46 mix"...it's probably not even from this year.

ghostface is fighting it out with air for the top 10.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:49 (twenty years ago)

I LOVE how you doodz are just READY at the drop of a hat! Right on!!!!

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:59 (twenty years ago)

I'm almost terrified by it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:59 (twenty years ago)

haha "ready." mine took like ten minutes to put together from memory and is probably not remotely accurate.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Will To Power's "Man Of Constant Sorrow" is off da hook.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:01 (twenty years ago)

I think I already voted for the LCD single last year. I couldn't wait.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:03 (twenty years ago)

8. The Fever, Red Bedroom (Kemado) 5

Yay!!! Matos. That might make mine, but It'll be a tight race with the Lansing-Dreiden album.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:05 (twenty years ago)

I think I already voted for the LCD single last year. I couldn't wait.

Heh, same here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:05 (twenty years ago)

I learned my lesson last year not to wait until Dec 6 to think about this stuff.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:07 (twenty years ago)

Is the Fever album good? I liked their EP.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:07 (twenty years ago)

Montgomery Gentry will probably make my list too. I haven't heard the Big & Rich album yet. I have to get my local record store to order it for me.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:07 (twenty years ago)

(ok obviously you think it's "good," but tell me more)

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:07 (twenty years ago)

haha and i have a LOOOOOOT of free time at work

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago)

The Fever album is great! Um, it's got the retro herky jerky post-punk dance fever but the songs are amazing. Every track is solid.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:09 (twenty years ago)

I've heard very few new albums since I last posted my best-of-the-year-so-far lists, so I'm not going to repost them here, though I now think the Janet Jackson and Magnetic Fields will almost certainly drop off the top ten. And WHEN OH WHEN IS ASTRAL GLAMOUR COMING OUT?!?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:10 (twenty years ago)

For the record, I like those Fever, Hold Steady, Icarus Line, Country Teasers, Les Baton Rouge, Courtney Love, Streets, and Nellie McKay albums (among many, many others released this year) in a "this is just fine, guess I'll file it on my shelf and probably pull it out again in a couple years" kind of way. (In fact, I've actually pulled a couple of those off my shelf already, and they were STILL good!)

chuck, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:13 (twenty years ago)

Am I the only one that's annoyed when artist anthologies are listed in "Best Of Year" polls? Sure, The World Of Arthur Russell is great, but it has nothing to do with 2004.

My list so far:
The Walkmen Bows And Arrows
Languis The Four Walls
Lali Puna Faking The Books
P J Harvey Uh Huh Her
The Fiery Furnaces Blueberry Boat
Ghost Hypnotic Underworld

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:15 (twenty years ago)

Am I the only one that's annoyed when artist anthologies are listed in "Best Of Year" polls? Sure, The World Of Arthur Russell is great, but it has nothing to do with 2004.

Well, contextually it can. Think of it this way -- when the original Nuggets came out, wasn't it a case where the time had passed but the impact was immense?

Right now I have no exact list but Fennesz rules the album roost. I have no idea what singles are anymore.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:17 (twenty years ago)

see what I mean? Nellie McKay goes into the top ten, at 7th, dropping Matthew Dear off. plus I suspect Kid606's Who Still Kill Sound? might have a place there as well; ditto the Helio Sequence record.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:22 (twenty years ago)

(Every time I see the name Lali Puna, I try to convince myself it is a Hawaiian steel guitar music, but I'm sure it isn't.)

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:22 (twenty years ago)

really looking fwd to PJ Harvey and the Fiery Furnaces, too

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:23 (twenty years ago)

fiery furnaces thing continues to give me a headache. why do i keep going back?

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:24 (twenty years ago)

Lali Puna is really fun to say over and over again.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:25 (twenty years ago)

it sounds dirty!

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:25 (twenty years ago)

albums will likely be (in no real order, and an incomplete list): walkmen, hold steady, mountain goats, fiery furnaces, courtney love, and eventually i'll get around to hearing the streets, sonic youth, the fever, etc etc etc (i'm so backlogged with new AND old albums to listen to at the moment but i expect i'll be hearing a lot of new records i like as the year rolls on).

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago)

matos, you're on slsk, right?

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago)

not anymore, cindy. I'm sure I can get a copy soon.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:28 (twenty years ago)

i keep having to tell myself its only june, and at least 3 or 4 of my eventual top 10 i didnt even hear until late in the year last year.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:28 (twenty years ago)

Ya know, the Beta Band might make my list.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:35 (twenty years ago)

But it's early yet.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:36 (twenty years ago)

I really need to check out the Fever. There's this song I've been hearing in random places and when I ask what it is they always say it's the Fever. Its the only song I've heard this year that I enjoyed but couldn't remotely figure out who it was.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:45 (twenty years ago)

Anthony, listen to The Fever and the Lansing-Dreiden album. I think you would like both of them.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:48 (twenty years ago)

I'll do my best!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:50 (twenty years ago)

actually once I move into my new apt in august and get internet at home I'll hopefully I'll get to take more chances, become more informed, find 10 albums I really really like, etc.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:51 (twenty years ago)

Albums (some kind of approximate order):

Ghost-Hypnotic Underworld
Electrelane-The Power Out
Lansing-Dreiden-The Incomplete Triangle (somewhere in here--haven't even listened to it all the way through yet)
The Fall-The Real New Fall LP (U.S. release due out this month)
Franz Ferdinand

And I don't know if I want to vote for reissues/comps this year. If I do:

Homosexuals-Astral Glamour
The Third Unheard: Connecticut Hip-Hop 1979-1983
Metal Boys and Dr. Mix CDs on Acute

And I'm resolved to vote for singles for the first time even though we don't have cable TV. Year so far (order approximate):

'Roses"-Outkast
"Maps"-Yeah Yeah Yeahs
"I'm Still in Love with You"-Sean Paul
"Disconnect the Dots"-Of Montreal
"Metrosexual Man"-Blag Dahlia (surprising song from this guy, though I'm not sure if I wanna vote for a song with the word "homos" in it)
"Matinee"-Franz Ferdinand
"Sparta F.C."-The Fall
"Extraordinary"-Liz Phair

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:55 (twenty years ago)

Good to see a vote for The Necks, Matos.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:56 (twenty years ago)

I SEE THE POP BUT WHERES THE JAZZ !??!?!?!??????????????

Johnny Dyani, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago)

Of the stuff I've heard so far from this year (not in order): The Streets, Lali Puna, Jason Forrest, Fiery Furnaces, Magnetic Fields, Dave Douglas, Ghost, Air, hmm...

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 00:02 (twenty years ago)

Chuck - The way to listen to the Courtney Love album is to program "Life Despite God" and "Mono" into the memory, set the player on repeat, play for half an hour, do this five times a day, occasionally interspersing, for variety, "All the Drugs," "Almost Golden," "Hello," or any of the other songs chosen at random. Do this every day for two months, though on some days you can choose simply to play "Life Despite God," with the repeat on, starting at 6:00 AM and going to midnight. Works for me.

Also, when not in listening range of a stereo, walkman, or other music-playing device (such as a bassoon), quote Courtney lyrics to anyone willing to listen. E.g., "Oh God you owe me one more song so that I can prove to you I'm so much better than him" and "Run away, head's on fire, can't tell the difference between hate and desire" and "With all of my money, with all of my love, with all of my money, it doesn't feel as good as the drugs."

The way to listen to the Hold Steady album is to program the first three songs into memory and treat it like an EP.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 00:05 (twenty years ago)

1) Hold Steady-Almost Killed Me
2) Ghostface-Pretty Toney Album
3) Tego Calderon-El Enemigo...
4) Mountain Goats-We Shall All Be Healed
5) Magnetic Fields-i
6) Usher-Confessions
7) Nellie McKay-Get Away From Me
8) dj/Rupture-The Bidoun Sessions
9) Tanya Stephens-Gangsta Blues
10) David Banner-MTA2

Singles:
1) R. Kelly and Nick Cannon-"Gigalo"
2) Usher-"Yeah"
3) Ying Yang Twins-"Salt Shaker"
4) R. Kelly-"Happy People"
5) Cecile-"New Year New Fuck"
6) Britney Spears-"Toxic"
7) Usher-"Burn"
8) Memphis Bleek-"Just Blaze, Bleek and Free"
9) Lil' Flip-"Game Over"
10) Luta-"Land of My Birth"

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 00:41 (twenty years ago)

FUCK I forgot about "Happy People"

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 00:43 (twenty years ago)

Ned, got you. I thought when you said it's "not what it could be" that it involved some criticism of the new version.

Of course, the new SMiLE IS greater than the old, though! The new version was a fantastic project filled with great spirit. Part of the difference between the perception of the old, mythical SMiLE and the new version is that the old SMiLE is inaccessible, not only because it wasn't finished, but also because it belongs to the past. The new version, on the other hand, is real and not a myth. You can go see them play the thing live. Forty years from now, the new version will be inaccessible, too, and then it will seem all the more fantastic and precious.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 3 January 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

Interview with Neil Hagerty in Your Flesh ca. 1993:

YF: For me...the first Trux LP, or the second for that matter, is just one of those great, undefinable albums like Half Gentlemen, Not Beasts or the Cro-Magnon album or Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica...One thing that enters your mind as you listen is the "fly on the wall" thing. What happened? What were they trying to do? What was the creative process like, etc.

NH: "What happened? What were they talking about? What were the inspirations?"...which is just something like "What is going on in their brains?" That is what makes us and that is the thing that you can never touch.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 3 January 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

The new version was a fantastic project filled with great spirit.

Er...and the original didn't have 'great spirit'? Hell, anyone can entire a studio and feel all jazzed up and think, "Hey, we're going to record a great album here!" and the end result is a steamy shitball.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 January 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

"the great songs on this were great, and the others were expendable"

Jody, if you haven't heard it and you ever see it or can download it, pick up the cambodian comp that came out 5 or 6 years ago. i think it's called cambodia rocks. i think it's even better than the thai one. same era of stuff. similar styles. more out and out rock/psych.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 3 January 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

way ahead of you, seward. ;-)

Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 3 January 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

also my number three this year is:

3. Various Artists - Cambodian Cassette Archives: Khmer Folk & Pop Music Vol. 1 (Sublime Frequencies)

Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 3 January 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

"way ahead of you, seward. ;-)"

Cool! That's a great one, isn't it? If you need a mind-blowing early-60's French recording of Vietnamese hill people that is more psychedelic than the state of California in 1967, lemme know. It's trance in the raw at its finest. I could make you a tape. (when ned reads this he'll ask where his music is that i still haven't sent him, but we will ignore him. my new year's resolution is to be more prompt.)

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 3 January 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

yeh yeh, it's great to have Smile as the great elusive (I'm not gonna ditch the bonus tracks or boots). And it's good to have Smiley Smile, for that matter. But *this* Smile, the Brian Wilson Presents Smile, is good too, and it's got the spirit *and the momentum. It's not the grat elusive, it's just a damn CD. But a good one, and good Brian Wilson, in a way neither he nor anyone else (not even the Flaming Lips!) has ever quite managed before.

don, Monday, 3 January 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

"The new version was a fantastic project filled with great spirit."

"Er...and the original didn't have 'great spirit'?"

I wasn't saying that in the least.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 3 January 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

same here (maybe top 25-30). i'm supposed to hate shit like that but it's really irresistible.

Haha, JBR, I feel the same way! But I had slim pickins this year as far as stuff that I really really loved and was impressed by.

Mainstream rock has gone further down the crapper (I don't get the Switchfoot appeal, I just don't) and even independent stuff is very "meh." Punk did okay -- albums by The Fight and Lars' Bastards and Hot Snakes and Social Distortion narrowly missed my Top 10. I really liked half the Gretchen Wilson album and half the Gram Rabbit album. If we could vote on half albums that kicked ass, I'd have had a *much* easier time making up a list.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 3 January 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

Had I voted, it would have been for

ALBUMS

1. Xiu Xiu -- Fabulous Muscles (18 pts)
2. Felix da Housecat -- Devin Dazzle and the Neon Fever (15 pts)
3. Beef Terminal -- The Isolationist (13 pts)
4. Oren Ambarchi -- Grapes from the Estates (11 pts)
5. The Arcade Fire -- Funeral (10 pts)
6. Death in Vegas -- Satan's Circus (9 pts)
7. Orbital -- Blue Album (7 pts)
8. Jake Fairley -- Touch Not the Cat (7 pts)
9. Tim Hecker -- Mirages (5 pts)
10. März -- Wir Sind Hier (5 pts)

I haven't made up a singles list -- the list I sent in for the ILX poll had some non-singles on it -- but hey, it's a fake ballot anyway.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 3 January 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)

what is Marz, barry?

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 3 January 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

They're spiff, they are.

Tell me more about März

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 January 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

März were sort of my Animal Collective this past year ... perhaps you're like me, and you enjoyed the three minute pop songs on "Sung Tongs" but got bored with the six and seven minute hippie noodlings. So, retain the campfire feel of those sparkly three-minute Animal Collective songs, but add some glitch and Mouse on Mars-y electronic squiggling, together with some cheeky German lyrics, and you've got März (Albrecht Kunze and Ekkehard Ehlers).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 3 January 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

Yes, that was the thread that compelled me to check them out!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 3 January 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

Marz is like a foggy Sunday afternoon in Pet Sounds Memorial Park, with a (Philip Glass-designed)carousel, that trails 360 degrees of anxious melodies in the leaves, all indian summer long. Getting more und more anxious: "Wir Sind Hier, Wir Sind Hier!" ("We're Still Here, We're Still Here!" Yes, you are, it's okay! Fahn Fahn Fahn!

don, Monday, 3 January 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

(actually "wir sind hier" = "we are here")

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 3 January 2005 04:19 (twenty years ago)

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Sun City Girls - Carnival Folklore Resurrection Radio 11/12 -
Abduction (10 points)
2. The Gris Gris - The Gris Gris - Birdman (10 points)
3. Monoshock - Runnin' Ape-Like From the Backwards Superman - S-S (10
points)
4. Isaiah Owens - You Without Sin Cast the First Stone - Case Quarter (10
points)
5. Jay Munly - Munly & the Lee Lewis Harlots - Alternative Tentacles (10
points)
6. Konono No. 1 - Lubuaku - Terp (10 points)
7. The Homosexuals - Astral Glamour - Hyped 2 Death (10 points)
8. Witchcraft - Witchcraft - TMC (10 points)
9. Hearts of Darknesses - Music For Drunk Driving - Schematic (10 points)
10. Comets On Fire - Blue Cathedral - Sub Pop (10 points)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot has been recorded as follows:

1. Ari Up - "True Warrior" - For Us
2. Lady Sovereign - "A Little Bit of Shush" - White Label
3. psi - "Golden Showers" - Evolving Ear
4. Drop the Lime - "1 For the Team" - Broklyn Beats
5. Nurse With Wound - "Having Fun With the Prince of Darkness" - United
Durtro/Jnana
6. Circle - "Circle/Elcric" - Fonal
7. Connoisseurs - "UV" - Dis-Joint
8. Pedestrian - "The Toss and Turn" - Anticon
9. Diamatregon - "Charognard" - Paragon Int'l/Agonia
10. Stromba - "Giddy Up" - Fatcat

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Monday, 3 January 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)

A relatively tame ballot from me, but it's how I felt:

Joseph McCombs, your votes have been recorded.
Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand - Domino (27 points)
2. Scissor Sisters - Scissor Sisters - Universal (15 points)
3. Prince - Musicology - NPG/Columbia (10 points)
4. - Parkinsong Volume One: 38 Songs of Hope - Ryko (10 points)
5. Morrissey - You Are the Quarry - Attack (7 points)
6. Modest Mouse - Good News for People Who Love Bad News - Epic (7 points)
7. Tears for Fears - Everybody Loves a Happy Ending - New Door (7 points)
8. Thrills - Let's Bottle Bohemia - Virgin (7 points)
9. Jamie Cullum - Twentysomething - Verve (5 points)
10. Van Hunt - Van Hunt - Capitol (5 points)


Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot has been recorded as follows:

1. Franz Ferdinand - "Come on Home" - Domino
2. Modest Mouse - "Float On" - Epic
3. R. Kelly - "Happy People" - Jive
4. Starsailor - "Four to the Floor" - EMI
5. Killers - "Somebody Told Me" - Island
6. Von Bondies - "C'Mon C'Mon" - Sire
7. Alicia Keys - "If I Ain't Got You" - J
8. Blondie - "Good Boys" - Sanctuary
9. Scissor Sisters - "Mary" - Universal
10. R.E.M. - "Leaving New York" - Warner Bros.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 3 January 2005 06:30 (twenty years ago)

No joke, Josh in Chicago! He's just SO fucked up, it makes me cry every time I hear it. And you don't think the chorus is pretty? And his whole conversational singing style is put to excellent use here. I like it lots better than all those "God gave me a new car and cured my cancer" songs later on the CD.

dr. philth (he's in the alley) (josh langhoff), Monday, 3 January 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

[that last in re R. Kelly's "3-Way Phone Call" and Josh's skepticism]

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 3 January 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Blood Brothers - Crimes - V2 (20 points)
2. M.I.A./Diplo - Piracy Funds Terrorism, Vol. 1 - Hollertronix (20 points)
3. Morgan Geist - Unclassics - Environ (20 points)
4. - DFA Compilation #2 - DFA (8 points)
5. Alicia Keys - Diary of Alicia Keys - J-Records (6 points)
6. My Chemical Romance - Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge - Reprise (6 points)
7. The Intelligence - Boredom and Terror - Omnibus (5 points)
8. Michael Mayer - Touch - Kompakt (5 points)
9. Atreyu - The Curse - Victory (5 points)
10. Big & Rich - Horse of a Different Color - Warner Brothers (5 points)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot has been recorded as follows:

1. Britney Spears - "Toxic"
2. Gretchen Wilson - "Redneck Woman"
3. Franz Ferdinand - "Take Me Out"
4. Zack de la Rocha - "We Want It All"
5. Liquid Liquid - "Bellhead"
6. Teedra Moses - "You Better Tell Her"
7. Bloc Party - "Banquet"
8. Nina Sky - "Move Your Body"
9. Annie - "Heartbeat"
10. Atreyu - "Right Side of the Bed"

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 3 January 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Your depressingly boring Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Junior Boys - Last Exit - Kin (15 points)
2. Animal Collective - Sung Tongs - Fat Cat (14 points)
3. Mylo - Destroy Rock'n'Roll - Breast Fed (13 points)
4. M.I.A./Diplo - Piracy Funds Terrorism, Vol. 1 (12 points)
5. Lucien'n'Luciano - Blind Behaviour - Peacefrog (11 points)
6. - DFA Compilation #2 - DFA (9 points)
7. Madvillain - Madvillainy - Stone's Throw (8 points)
8. Arthur Russell - Calling Out of Context - Audika (7 points)
9. Erlend Oye - DJ Kicks - !K7 (6 points)
10. Electrelane - The Power Out - Too Pure (5 points)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot has been recorded as follows:

1. Art Brut - "Formed a Band" - Rough Trade
2. Justus Kohncke / Meloboy / Frei - "Hot Love" - Kompakt
3. Heloise and the Savoir Faire Dancers - "Odyle"
4. Knife - "Heartbeats (Rex the Dog Mix)" - Rabid
5. Annie - "Chewing Gum" - 679
6. Dungen - "Panda" - Subliminal Sounds
7. Scissor Sisters - "Tits on the Radio" - Polydor
8. Ghostface - "Tush" - Def Jam
9. Soft Pink Truth - "Do They Owe Us a Living?" - Tigerbeat6
10. Morrissey - "The First of the Gang to Die" - Attack

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 3 January 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

aw, it's not that boring! I like that you picked "Tush."

miccio (miccio), Monday, 3 January 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

OMG anyone who puts Heloise and the Savoir Faire Dancers on their list is anything but boring!!!

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 3 January 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Clouddead - Ten - Mush (15 points)
2. Tatsuya Nakatani - Green Report 12 - H+H (14 points)
3. Arcade Fire - Funeral - Merge (13 points)
4. Baghdassarians/Baltschun/Bosetti/Doneda - Strom - Potlatch (12 points)
5. Xiu Xiu - Fabulous Muscles - 5RC (11 points)
6. Dälek - Absence - Ipecac (9 points)
7. Jim Fox - The City the Wind Swept Away - Cold Blue (8 points)
8. Tracy & the Plastics - Culture For Pigeon - Troubleman (7 points)
9. Keith Berry - Buddha's Mile - Authorised Version (6 points)
10. Subtle - A New White - Lex (5 points)


Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot has been recorded as follows:

charlie va (charlie va), Monday, 3 January 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

Because I was bored, here's a tally of the P&J voter final ballots for albums posted on this thread. First number in parentheses is the point total, second is vote total. And I make no claims for accuracy.

1. M.I.A./Diplo - Piracy Funds Terrorism, Vol. 1 - Hollertronix (166) (14)
2. Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat - Rough Trade (94) (8)
3. Big & Rich - Horse of a Different Color - Warner Bros. (89) (5)
4. Junior Boys - Last Exit - Kin/Domino (88) (8)
5. Streets - A Grand Don't Come for Free - Vice/Atlantic (86) (6)
6. Kanye West - The College Dropout - Roc-A-Fella (81) (8)
7. Dizzee Rascal - Showtime - XL (77) (9)
8. Ghostface - The Pretty Toney Album - Def Jam (63) (6)
9. Brian Wilson - SMiLE - Nonesuch (60) (4)
10. Homosexuals - Astral Glamour - Messthetics/Morphius (59) (5)
11. Sonic Youth - Sonic Nurse - Geffen (53) (6)
12. Various Artists - DFA Compilation #2 - DFA (51) (5)
13. Madvillain - Madvillainy - Stones Throw (49) (5)
14. United State of Electronica - United State of Electronica - Mannheim (48) (4)
15. Gretchen Wilson - Here For the Party (44) (4)
16. Erlend Øye - DJ-Kicks - !K7 (36) (4)
17. RJD2 - Since We Last Spoke - Definitive Jux (34) (3)
18. Annie - Anniemal - 679 (33) (3)
18. Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand - Domino (33) (2)
20. Mountain Goats - We Shall All Be Healed - 4AD (32) (4)
20. Animal Collective - Sung Tongs - Fat Cat (32) (3)
20. Arcade Fire - Funeral - Merge (32) (3)
20. Hold Steady - Almost Killed Me - Frenchkiss (32) (3)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

(Re: MIA/Diplo. Note that an album that recieved a total 166 points would've placed at #79 in last year's poll.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

maybe i don't need SMILE cuz blueberry boat is my SMILE.

Argh, I made a similar remark in my P&J comments -- don't hate me, Scott, if Chuck prints it!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Wait, I also said something similar to what Ned said, too! *cries*

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

Except without all the Tolkien business (which is awesome, btw).

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

Here's what mine would be at the moment:

1 Joanna Newsom - The Milk-Eyed Mender (Drag City)
2 Stina Nordenstam - The World is Saved (A Walk In the Park/V2)
3 Annie - Anniemal (679)
4 Mirah - C'mon Miracle (K)
5 Lucien-N-Luciano - Blind Behaviour (Peacefrog)
6 M.I.A. - Schwarzweiss (Substatic)
7 Triola - Im Fünftonraum (Kompakt)
8 Moodymann - Black Mahogani (Peacefrog)
9 Charalambides - Joy Shapes (Kranky)
10 Junior Boys - Last Exit (Kin/Domino)

1 Francois De Roubaix - Le Monde Electronique (Universal)
2 Michael Mayer - Speicher 2 (Kompakt Extra)
3 V/A - Groove On Down: Disco/Boogie Cuts (Soul Brother)
4 M.A.N.D.Y. - Get Physical 2nd Anniversary Compilation (Get Physical)
5 Mansun - Kleptomania (Parlophone)
6 Ellen Allien - My Parade (Bpitch Control)
7 Arthur Russell - Calling Out of Context (Audika)
8 Ivan Smagghe - Suck My Deck (React)
9 Akufen - Fabric 17 (Fabric)
10 V/A - Trax 20th Anniversary Collection (Trax)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 9 January 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

1. M.I.A./Diplo - Piracy Funds Terrorism, Vol. 1 - Hollertronix (166) (14)

talking to nick from pfm/vv, I realized I forgot M.I.A. on my pazz and jop and he swapped it in for me last week - so that's another five points for that LP from ballots in this thread. 171 total.

scott pl. (scott pl.), Sunday, 9 January 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)

Scott, what does the MIA/Diplo replace on your list?

In any case, incorporating ballots by Pete Scholtes, James Blount and Jess Harvell that were posted elsewhere, we get...

1. M.I.A./Diplo - Piracy Funds Terrorism, Vol. 1 - Hollertronix (172) (15)
2. Dizzee Rascal - Showtime - XL (117) (11)
3. Streets - A Grand Don't Come for Free - Vice/Atlantic (111) (8)
4. Junior Boys - Last Exit - Kin/Domino (103) (9)
5. Big & Rich - Horse of a Different Color - Warner Bros. (101) (7)
6. Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat - Rough Trade (94) (8)
7. Kanye West - The College Dropout - Roc-A-Fella (81) (8)
8. Madvillain - Madvillainy - Stones Throw (74) (6)
9. Various Artists - DFA Compilation #2 - DFA (69) (5)
10. Ghostface - The Pretty Toney Album - Def Jam (63) (6)
11. Brian Wilson - SMiLE - Nonesuch (60) (4)
12. Homosexuals - Astral Glamour - Messthetics/Morphius (59) (5)
12. Hold Steady - Almost Killed Me - Frenchkiss (59) (5)
14. Sonic Youth - Sonic Nurse - Geffen (53) (6)
15. United State of Electronica - United State of Electronica - Mannheim (48) (4)
16. Various Artists - Rio Baile Funk: Favela Booty Beats - Essay (45) (4)
17. Gretchen Wilson - Here For the Party (44) (4)
18. Devin the Dude - To Tha X-Treme - Rap-a-Lot (42) (5)
19. Erlend Øye - DJ-Kicks - !K7 (36) (4)
20. RJD2 - Since We Last Spoke - Definitive Jux (34) (3)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 9 January 2005 04:19 (twenty years ago)

Incoporating Scott's vote, that brings MIA/Diplo to 177 points from 16 votes, placing it at #73 were this last year's poll.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 9 January 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

I gave MIA/Diplo 16 duders too actually

Nick Sylvester, your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Madvillain - Madvillainy - Stones Throw (17 points)
2. Animal Collective - Sung Tongs - Fat Cat (16 points)
3. M.I.A. / Diplo - Piracy Funds Terrorism Volume 1 - Hollertronix (16 points)
4. Annie - Anniemal - 679 (10 points)
5. DFA Compilation #2 - DFA (10 points)
6. Shugo Tokumaru - Night Piece - Music Related (5 points)
7. Erlend Øye - DJ Kicks - !K7 (8 points)
8. Dizzee Rascal - Showtime - XL (8 points)
9. Death From Above 1979 - You're A Woman, I'm A Machine - Vice (5 points)
10. Wolf Eyes - Burned Mind - Sub Pop (5 points)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot has been recorded as follows:

1. Annie - "Heartbeat" - 679
2. LCD Soundsystem - "Yeah" - DFA
3. M.I.A. - "Galang" - XL
4. Excepter - "Vacation" - Fusetron
5. Liars - "There's Always Room On The Broom" - Mute
6. Annie - "Chewing Gum" - 679
7. Britney Spears - "Toxic" - Jive
8. Gwen Stefani - "What You Waiting For?" - Interscope
9. Lady Sovereign - "Cha Ching (Cheque 1, 2) (Main Mix)" - 679
10. Prince Po - "Hold Dat Remix (Produced By Richard X)" - Lex

Nick Sylvester, Sunday, 9 January 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

Hey Nick, do you have any way of checking whether the change I made to my singles ballot was recorded? Because IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN. Because I made a RETRACTION. Right? Okay.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 9 January 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)

I'll check tomorrow, but if you emailed chuck about it I'm almost positive he made both the change and the undo. dude's pretty on point.

Nick Sylvester, Sunday, 9 January 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Scott, what does the MIA/Diplo replace on your list?

Showtime - which I think I had listed at No. 7 but was in a group of four w/five points each.

scott pl. (scott pl.), Sunday, 9 January 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Excellent, thanks, Nick.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 9 January 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

So this MIA/Diplo thing is really good, then.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 9 January 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

1) "Funeral"--Arcade Fire
2) "Almost Killed Me"--The Hold Steady
3) "Milk-Eyed Mender"--Joanna Newsom
4) "Desperate Youth, Blood-Thirsty Babes"--TV on the Radio
5) "Good News for People Who Love Bad News"--Modest Mouse
6) "Franz Ferdinand"
7) "Life On the Fly"--Azita
8) "The College Dropout"-- Kanye West
9) "Shake the Sheets"--Ted Leo and the Pharmacists
10) "Funny Farm"--Pipi Skid

MV, Monday, 10 January 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)

MV you are the indiest person ever!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 10 January 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

Even my hip hop is indie, Tim.

MV, Monday, 10 January 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

The Thread Where We List The People Who Put Kanye As Their Token Rap Album on an indiecentric top 10 2004 list

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 10 January 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

I like that you listed Azita, at least: that was my #12.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

"The Thread Where We List The People Who Put Kanye As Their Token Rap Album on an indiecentric top 10 2004 list

-- Michael F Gill (rain19...)"

Well, except Pipi Skid is rap.

MV, Monday, 10 January 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Hey Chuck - Did anyone put "George W. Pussy" or Afroman's "Wack Rappers (Industry Diss)" in their singles ballot? I'm genuinely curious.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

I haven't noticed any of those Joe -= but we are far from done with the compiling and tabulating.

chuck, Monday, 10 January 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...
OK, tabluating ALL the ballots posted here or linked to, the top singles are:

1. M.I.A. - "Galang" - XL (14 Votes)
2. Britney Spears - "Toxic" - Jive (12 Votes)
3. Annie - "Heartbeat" - 679 (9 Votes)
3. LCD Soundsystem - "Yeah" - DFA (9 Votes)
3. Gwen Stefani - "What You Waiting For?" - Interscope (9 Votes)
6. Big & Rich - "Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)" - Warner Bros. (8 Votes)
6. Jay-Z - "99 Problems" - Roc-A-Fella (8 Votes)
8. Usher feat. Lil Jon & Ludacris - "Yeah" - La Face (7 Votes)
9. Snoop Dogg feat. Pharrell - "Drop It Like It’s Hot" - Startrak (6 Votes)
9. Gretchen Wilson - "Redneck Woman" - Epic (6 Votes)

Again, for scale reference, a single with 14 votes would've placed #48 in last year's poll.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 7 February 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)


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