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The Greatest "secret" band competition.It's pretty funny cuz it reminded me of ILM. I don't think I know the dude. Does he post on here?

http://www.jericsmith.com/secretbands.htm

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:12 (twenty years ago) link

There is probably a thread on it already, isn't there? Go ahead, link away. I know I would.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

There is no Raunchy Young Lepers = to hell with it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:14 (twenty years ago) link

I like the end result of his project.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:16 (twenty years ago) link

Much as I like Swans and all...

I note he also has this:

The Worst Rock Band Ever

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:17 (twenty years ago) link

Plus, I love reading Swans-vs-Gudalcanal Diary. Hahahaha!!

How come no one on ILM came up with that one!?

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

That worst band one looks good too. He's got smashing pumkins going up against Staind.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

This was kinda neat! I gotta try something like this with my record collection one of these days.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

Back when I was in the hospital a lot as a kid (I had about six operations on my right ear) I created a game involving pencils with the names of every NFL team that would take me about an hour to finish. This reminds me enough of that that I find this really endearing. If I'm ever sick for weeks again I might just do this.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:24 (twenty years ago) link

pencils with the names of every NFL team

ON them. I think there were 24 at the time or something.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:25 (twenty years ago) link

this is horrible.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:25 (twenty years ago) link

I admire the effort involved.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:26 (twenty years ago) link

And I like that he calls them "secret" bands!!!

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

This is actually the type of thing that makes me glad for the web, in that in past days he would have tried to get it published and trees would have died.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

hey at least it's not up ILX's Ally

(sorry)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:28 (twenty years ago) link

I've never heard Sweep The Leg Johnny or Tragic Mulatto.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:29 (twenty years ago) link

This is great:

"I could explain in more depth the diversity
and impact of the Residents' contributions to modern music, but I'm gonna
save that for the next round, when they're likely to go against someone
slightly more formidable than BeBop Deluxe, who are worthy, but not that
worthy."

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:31 (twenty years ago) link

Clutch is really big in this town (never heard them myself). There's a lot of guys I know who would be glad they made it so far on this thing. Kicked Felt's ASS!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

the Sun City Girls fit this right on.

David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

Jandek too

David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:36 (twenty years ago) link

I wanna hear the new Clutch.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:39 (twenty years ago) link

actually the Worst Band Ever thing just killed all my goodwill towards this dude.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:39 (twenty years ago) link

Also, Faust CRRRUUUSSSSHHHHH the Flaming Groovies. I mean, even using his own standards, Faust are for my money the best art band, and Flaming Groovies are just an okay garage band.

Why do I still get mad over subjective opinions? I am insane

David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

This guy is a fucking moron. No different than the guitar magazine muso who believe that Television is the only worthwhile band from NYC77 because they're "real musicians".

The Buzzcocks vs. Wire: Both English bands emerged in the rush of "We can do that" enthusiasm inspired by the Sex Pistols' (and other, lesser punks) assaults on musical sensibilities in the UK, circa 1976-77. Both of their debut albums (Wire's Pink Flag and The Buzzcocks' Another Music in a Different Kitchen) took the basic idiot punk idiom and carried it into far more thoughtful places. But over the years, the Buzzcocks never strayed too terribly far from the snappy verse/chorus/energy of punk, while Wire left that behind in pursuit of some of the most challenging music ever to be issued under the name of "rock." Discounting the one album issued under the name "Wir," Wire have also managed to keep their basic line-up intact for nearly 30 years, while the Buzzcocks have formed, broken up, reformed in a variety of permutations over the years. That consistency and continuity (even when they don't play together for years at a time) is part of what makes Wire so exceptional and extraordinary: these guys know how to play with each other, and the noises they make together are truly greater than the sum of their respective parts. The greater band: Wire.

Dude, did you ever HEAR the "Wir" album? I rest my case.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:44 (twenty years ago) link

Both bands went through significant personnel changes early on, leaving the dBs (primarily) in Chris Holsapple's hands

HAHAHA! Moron.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:48 (twenty years ago) link

I really should have read the actual text before praising this thing. I still like the playoffs concept.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:48 (twenty years ago) link

Wire vs the buzzcocks is a toughy though. hmmm...

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:49 (twenty years ago) link

I still think some of them could be on ILM easily.

Throwing Muses-vs-Bongwater for instance. Hahahahahahah

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:51 (twenty years ago) link

"actually the Worst Band Ever thing just killed all my goodwill towards this dude."

otm.

"Why do I still get mad over subjective opinions? I am insane "

as an american it is your moral duty to impose your opinions upon others.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

There's much more to cricitize on the guy's blog

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:57 (twenty years ago) link

I can't read the worst band thing on this computer. My computer is old and sad like me. I was on my beloved maria's computer when i first looked at this thing. He had a lot of hair bands on there.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:57 (twenty years ago) link

Why are his blog posts broken up with what appears to be a picture of Pete Tong's zombie's eyes?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:59 (twenty years ago) link

man, this guy is really lame:

Nirvana vs. Pearl Jam: Phew!! The grand pappies of grunge slugging it out in the first round. Again, another heresy alert: if you've been reading this blog for a while, you've read my Anti-Nirvana screed. I pity Kurt Cobain (and even more pity his child), but he and his band were only as good as Dave Grohl and Butch Vig made them. Pearl Jam are very, very annoying, but they get points for evolving and taking on new challenges. But they're still annoying. The suckier: Nirvana.

"but he and his band were only as good as Dave Grohl and Butch Vig made them"

dipshit.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Korn is pretty good, actually, once you get past their odious public persona. They innovated (there wouldn't be as many 7-string guitars in your local music shop if they hadn't taken 'em to the mainstream)

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

I almost posted the 7-string thing myself!

If he was 17 all would be forgiven

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:04 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, i thought he was younger until i saw the actual picture of him on his blog.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:06 (twenty years ago) link

I can't necessarily work up much objection to his final worst band ever, despite the overall lameness of his opinions on other topics.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:10 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I have to agree. The Crue suck. Vince Neil = my least favorite rock star ever. Besides maybe Sir Frederick of Durst.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:14 (twenty years ago) link

This guy is a fucking moron.

Telecom yr just miffed sp3 got cut first round :)

Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:15 (twenty years ago) link

The only one I like less than Vince Neil is Tommy Lee.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

Tommy Lee's a dumbass and a wife-beating asshole, no doubt, but something about Vince Neil is incredibly smug and disgusting to me.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:18 (twenty years ago) link

true, plus that whole Hanoi Rocks thing.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:18 (twenty years ago) link

Motley Crue Vs. Swans! Please someone write this up where the Crue wins, then send it to him. I'd do it but I'm going for mediterranean food in like 15 minutes.

Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:19 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, I wouldn't do it, cos I don't know shit about motley crue. Just a thought.

Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

Motley Crue repels all boarders, that's all you ever need to know.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:21 (twenty years ago) link

From his worst all time list:

...we eliminate vocal groups (N'Sync, Boys II Men, etc.); if a group's members don't or didn't at some point provide the primary instrumentation for their music, then they really don't deserve scrutiny for all time worst band. It's kind of a gimme that groups backed by anonymous session musicians are gonna score higher on the suck scale.

YEAH, LIKE THOSE LAME MO-TOWN HACKS

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

oh christ.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:34 (twenty years ago) link

Money says he eventually tracks the links and comes here to complain.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago) link

He should be flattered! Um, kinda.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:39 (twenty years ago) link

Money says he eventually tracks the links and comes here to complain

Bring him on! We outlasted the DMB fans.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

but could we outlast insane clown posse fans? i woudn't be cocky if we were to be up against them. they're all like 17 and hopped up on meth.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 4 June 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago) link

If by meth you mean jolt cola and pixie sticks, then yes, they're crazy meth fiends.

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 4 June 2004 01:11 (twenty years ago) link

haha you don't live in my area do you? their fans here tend to be scary white trash types.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 4 June 2004 01:12 (twenty years ago) link

basically the "wigger" (i don't like that term but..) equivalent of pantera fans.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 4 June 2004 01:14 (twenty years ago) link

Do you live in Michigan?

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 4 June 2004 01:48 (twenty years ago) link

He concludes that Black Flag was better than the Mekons. I am gonna jump out this window now.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 4 June 2004 02:06 (twenty years ago) link

Hey Miccio, where do you live? I ask because Clutch are pretty big in my neck of the woods too, which I guess is pretty understandable since I live thirty minutes away from their birthplace (Germantown, Md.) and thirty minutes from their current home (Charles Town, WV or thereabouts)

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 4 June 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

Ned wrote:

> Money says he eventually tracks the links
> and comes here to complain.

You would have won the bet if you didn't add the words "to complain" at the end of the sentence: I tracked the links, I am here, but I don't have anything to complain about, since I don't get mad over subjective opinions. I guess I might even be flattered. Um, kinda.

I've been getting "you suck" letters in response to my music criticism for about 20 years now . . . so I'm sorta numb to 'em at this point. This current round is kinda ironic, since I actually gave up on print music criticism last year . . . see:

http://www.metroland.net/arts_feature.html

I hadn't heard of ILM, but y'all seem to generate a lot of content and traffic . . . there's a lotta good stuff on this site that I see as I forage around . . . so I'm off to explore.

Oh, and, yes, Elvis, I do own and am quite familiar with the Wir album.

And, just for the record, I can't stand Television (the band), and I think Clutch are the best live band I've seen in the past few years, hands-down, although their fans are, indeed, a bit on the scary side up here in Upstate New York.

JES, Friday, 4 June 2004 11:17 (twenty years ago) link

not read all .. but i'm down with the shriekback vs swans. its a precise description of my opinions on both bands with whom i held in high regard. though i have to say i fond myself revisiting jam science a lot more than anything by the Swans these days .

mark e (mark e), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:28 (twenty years ago) link


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