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this is not merely a question of ordinary sublimity. i move tha wil oldham has left us with new partner, ohio river boat song, i see a darkness, raining in darling and agnes queen of sorrow, and that there is no-one in competition with this.
the beatles wrote mnay fine things but nothing, to my recollection, that reached that pitch of catharis. joy division had transmission and love will rear us apart, which is good given the years they had to work in. dylan had like a rolling stone and and blowin, and mothers will have managed at least two but my recollection is ravaged by drink.

nominate the competition, you old sods.

― matthew james (matthew james), Saturday, 5 June 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

apologies for my incredible spelling.

― matthew james (matthew james), Saturday, 5 June 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

dylan had much more than like a rolling stone. dylan had blonde on blonde. and so much more.

but i agree, i cant think of a more amazing songwriter at the moment than oldham.

― tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Saturday, 5 June 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

blonde on blonde is good, but is that question of reaching that very rare pitch whih i think dylan has done less.

― matthew james (matthew james), Saturday, 5 June 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

the rolling stones

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 5 June 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

simon turner

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 5 June 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

love will rear us apart - nice typo :)

― willem (willem), Saturday, 5 June 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

SMOKEY ROBINSON

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Saturday, 5 June 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The best current songwriter, and my favourite ever, is Bill Callaghan.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 5 June 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

although Will Oldham co-wrote one of top 3 songs ever.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 6 June 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

love will rear us apart

"turn away on your side"...

― Bimble (bimble), Sunday, 6 June 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

ugh this thread is so indie i could puke

anyway, i'll play ball:

Neil Young
Paul Westerberg
Dan Bejar
M Ward
Patterson Hood / Mike Cooley
Alex Chilton

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 6 June 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Way to move it outside the "indie" realm, roger.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 6 June 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Songwriting and indie go hand in hand because they are both worthless

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 6 June 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

jaymc - I SAID i'd play ball. And only because the two 'indie rockersTM' on my list are pretty fucking brilliant as far as I'm concerned and to ignore them would be as absurd as, say, I dunno, claiming that Will Oldham and Bill Callahan are 'amazing songwriters'

Nothing against them, I like both, but the hit and miss ratio is SO Drag City, no?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 6 June 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

without wanting to state the blindingly obvious saying that Bill Callaghan is hit and miss then listing M ward is a bit pointless. all songwriters are hit and miss and the best ones especially are. I'll take a bill Callaghan miss over most things though.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 6 June 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

For such a Bill Callahan superfan, you seem to problems spelling his name.

Unless it's this guy you're talking about.

― The Yahoo yahoo, Sunday, 6 June 2004 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

smokey robinson counts.

― matthew james (matthew james), Sunday, 6 June 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

heh - i have never actually noticed that! *blush* i suppose Callaghan is the way it is most commonly spelt in the UK.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 6 June 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

R KELLY jesus

― jeremy jordan (cruisy), Sunday, 6 June 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Leonard Cohen
Lucinda Williams
Tom T. Hall
Tom Waits

― Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Sunday, 6 June 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

waits and cohen definately.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 6 June 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Randy Newman
Todd Rundgren
Van Morrison
Brian Wilson
Ray Davies

― jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 6 June 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't quite understand this question, but as for people who might just maybe possibly provide competition for will o in the cathartic songwriting competition, i humbly offer

hank williams
ray davies
goffin and king
prince
joni mitchell
pj harvey

i'm thinking there are maybe possibly 1 or 2 or 378 others, but i'm too tired to summon their names right now.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 6 June 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

David Berman owns Will Oldham.

― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 6 June 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Songwriting and indie go hand in hand because they are both worthless
-- Sonny A. (newaddres...), June 6th, 2004.

I'll take that bait. Stupid-head.

― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 6 June 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Charles Thompson.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 June 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

David, I hate you

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 6 June 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

No I'm just kidding i love you

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 6 June 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

you stupid indie

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 6 June 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

cole porter
rodgers/hammerstein

i'm thinking there are maybe possibly 1 or 2 or 378 others

my thoughts exactly

― jake in portland (cerybut), Sunday, 6 June 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeff Barry is the greatest songwriter the world has ever known. He's had a hand in most songs I've ever really truly loved.

― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Sunday, 6 June 2004 08:34 (twenty-one years ago)

static from playa

― m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 6 June 2004 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeff Lynne of course.

― strom, Sunday, 6 June 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Alice Cooper

Bernie Taupin

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 6 June 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Burt Bacharach

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 6 June 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Merle Haggard and Dolly Parton

― Avi (Avi), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Dolly Parton seconded.

Jimmy Webb.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Chuck Berry
Bryan Ferry
Rodgers & Hart
Sam Cooke
Otis Redding
Buddy Holly
Irving Berlin

― Burr (Burr), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

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