I know the obvious like Tigerbeat, Warp and Carpark, but what are some of the other better ones?
― SugarBeats 001, Thursday, 17 June 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)
1. hand on the plow2. inperspective3. areal4. aftershock
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)
~scapeKomplottKrankyPlanet µTraum
― harshaw (jube), Thursday, 17 June 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)
WTF?
That's just plain wrong, everywhere.
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)
If by that you mean that at the moment Areal is doing more interesting things than Warp, I suppose that's arguable. On the whole, however (as was suggested above in calling it one of the "worst"), Areal is a pubic hair behind Warp's toilet bowl, at best.
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 17 June 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 17 June 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 17 June 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 17 June 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 17 June 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 17 June 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Thursday, 17 June 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 17 June 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 17 June 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)
You know I'm right.
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)
if you want to know about good dance labels...
1) ARCOLA!!!
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)
CLASSICboards of canadamira calixother people placebroadcastprefuse 73reqlfo
DUDautechre (x2)squarepusher (x2)plaid (x2)jimi tenor two lone swordsmen (x3)chris clark (x2)tortoise (x2)red snapper prefuse 73 vincent galloaphex twinantipop consortiumbeansreqmerzbowluke vibertnightmares on waxbrothomstates
that's a classic:dud ratio of about 1:3 ... or about 25% hits. not looking too good for warp =( ... mind you i didn't put in savath+savalas or !!! because i'm still on the fence about them.
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)
Unless you want to claim Motown is shit because 70 to 04 doesn't match its 60s output.
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)
bottom line is that none of those strongo-approved labels would exist if it hadn't been for Warp.
is absurd.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Which is why none of those labels sell product thru Warpmart, acknowledge stylistic inheritance, etc etc etc
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm going to disagree with that too. Warp *never* had a monopoly on 'IDM' (except by defining and reifying that awful term). Those releases are more representative of what was going on at the time, rather than definitive. Kompakt or Areal are *not* direct descendents.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)
I do think that dismissng it out of hand is a pathetically obvious hepster pose that refuses to acknowledge its historical importance or the great work it's released during its lifetime.
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)
I agree with you on this btw - Aftershock is *the* label at the mo' like Locked On used to be, or Social Circles in '01/early '02. I'm waiting for Aim High to make a counter-attack though. (waiting to *read* about it anyway. My love of Aim High and Aftershock is really just a theoretical extrapolation on the say four tracks each I've actually managed to hear).
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Davis Miles (Da ve Segal), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)
Ideological? :-O
Surely not?
It's not like I akshully disagree with yr contempt for obviousism, strongo, it's just that I think there are worthier targets elsewhere.
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)
calling it "best label ever" is probably defensible, though i can think of several other labels that could live up to that claim, too.
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)
1. reinforced2. locked on3. moving shadow4. sub base5. formation
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)
PAY ATTENTION
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)
1. locked on2. reinforced3. sub base4. moving shadow5. formation
my omniscience told me.
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)
etc
and re: Warp - there's lots of great stuff on Warp, even lately. But if you try to hold any "experimental" label up to a bright light, you'll find a bunch of not-so-great releases. that's part of what makes them experimental. they take chances. sometimes those chances succeed, sometimes they fall flat. but unless you're just licensing the better stuff other labels took chances on (ala Hooj) then you're probably not gonna have a really consistent catalog. I think the ratio of consistently good to experimental chances taken is highest with a label like Warp. That's why they get the props.
― rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)
Re Warp, 25% is a very good ratio!
― Curt (cgould), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)
strongo: have you heard the second release on hand on the plow? what do you think of it? the first release seemed really promising. also-i think you overstate areal's goodness. granted, ada is just about my favorite artist right now, but the rest seems to pale in comparision (may be proximity to her, though!).
i would mention environ, festplatten and sub static aside from some others already mentioned that i'm particularly interested in right now.
― Sam Benson (Sam Benson), Friday, 18 June 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)
areal...well, mostly i listed it because i was totally baffled by the love for bis neun but the new comp really blew me away. i'm sure tomorrow it will be another label...
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 June 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 18 June 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)
hand on the plow shitkatapult
always top:
mille plateaux + MP imprints kompaktperlonscape ...
― bojan (bojanm), Saturday, 19 June 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)
:(
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 19 June 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 19 June 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)
I like Touch a lot, too.
― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Saturday, 19 June 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 19 June 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 19 June 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 19 June 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 19 June 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)
1. arcola2. ann aimee3. DFA4. playhouse5. dust traxx
and if ronan gets to mention roule i'll mention crydamoure (who seem to be defunct, i guess)
― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 19 June 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)
why are all the French producers such lazy bastards. I mean come on ARCHIGRAM it's been 2 fucking years. Everytime I play Carnival at work someone asks what it was, and instantly gushes about it. It really is one of my favourite records of all time.
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 19 June 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Saturday, 19 June 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― oom, Saturday, 19 June 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)
OK colin here goes...
1) espressowerk2) ear pimp3) tortured4) neue heimat5) creme organization6) television
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 20 June 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)
and how come nobody has mentioned R&S records??? check the discog, they rival warp for back-in-the-day goodness.
― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Sunday, 20 June 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 20 June 2004 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 20 June 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 20 June 2004 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 20 June 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)
ANYWAY:
1.) outsider2.) bassbin3.) synaptic plastic4.) aim high5.) perlon (i guess)
― strng hlkngtn, Saturday, 9 July 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 9 July 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)
(not that I even buy vinyl... those are just labels that have inpsired some amount of trust that more releases on them may be as good. Labels that don't inspire this, or seem uneven in quality, perhaps 'cos I haven't investigated enough - Rephlex, CCO, Shitkatapult, Kanzleramt, Orthlong Musork, Leaf).
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 9 July 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 9 July 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)
bureau and molecular funk guerilla look promising but havent put out much yet
great labels that are defunct / whose current output i dont care much about: hymen, hushush, mille plateaux, force inc, frisbee, 12k, touch, ash international
― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Saturday, 9 July 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 9 July 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 9 July 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
KompaktBasic Channel FamilyCadenzaMy Best FriendWBFirmEchocord
2nd tier: Fumakilla, Mental Groove, Playhouse, Perlon, Bpitch, Caduceus, Get Physical, Areal, More Down Than Out
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 9 July 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)
― Kevin Erickson, Monday, 15 August 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 15 August 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 15 August 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 19 August 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)
-- Michael F Gill
Mental Groove... my crew :) nice one Michael
― blunt (blunt), Saturday, 20 August 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)
― blunt (blunt), Saturday, 20 August 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)
Offhand, and this could change in an instant - and we're just talking CURRENT (even though I take recent/mid-term successes into account, in light of occasional recent lapses):1. Perlon2. Bpitch Control3. Playhouse4. Frend am Tanzen/Musik Krause5. Freundinnen
Freunddinen have the least output of any of them, but of all labels I'm excited about, it's them - between the early Isolee single and the recent Motivii:Tuntematon, that's enough for me.
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:06 (twenty years ago)
― Ste (Fuzzy), Saturday, 20 August 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)
for the beat less oriented LUCKY KITCHEN COMMUNE-DISC CUT TOUCH
― Jacobs (LolVStein), Saturday, 20 August 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)
― beatles fan, Saturday, 20 August 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)
untouchable
― beatles fan, Saturday, 20 August 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)
― beatles fan, Saturday, 20 August 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)
― beatles fan, Saturday, 20 August 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 21 August 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)
― c7n (Cozen), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)
― Yawn (Wintermute), Monday, 28 November 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)