Rough Trade Shops: Indiepop 1 - dissect and rejoice!

All the same, I don't half want a copy...so whaddya think?

I like lots of the records on there (and dislike lots of others) but it seems fairly unappealing just sat there in a big lump. They seem to have chosen the wrong song by a lot of the acts on there, but I suppose that's always the way.

Is it true that Matt Haynes has written the sleevenotes? That might be interesting.

Seriously - most of this is excruciating.

I wonder what sort of wedge you get for having a record on one of these? Minimal, I'm guessing.

2. Modesty Blaise - Carol Mountain
3. Popguns - Waiting For The Winter
8. The Monochrome Set - The Monochrome Set
13. Jesse Garon & The Desperadoes - Splashing Along
18. Pop Will Eat Itself - Black Country Chainstore Massacreee
19. I, Ludicrous - Preposterous Tales

2. Love Is All - Spinning and Scratching
5. Aberfeldy - Vegetarian Restaurant
6. The Pooh Sticks - I Know Someone Who Knows Someone Who Knows
Alan McGee Quite Well
7. This Poison! - Poised Over The Pause Button

TP! were good in a loud fast & scratchy way. I don't know Modesty Blaise, Aberfeldy or Love Is All.

I'll ask The Ludes - nowt much I shouldn't think

I own 3 of those (Monochrome Set, Josef K, AR Kane) but w.r.t. rather too many others, and as the Pooh Sticks once said, "I've got that on tape"

Sigh.

i've long since been of the opinion matt haynes is a fuckwit. nothing in recent years has led me to believe otherwise. anybody who wants to argue that he isn't is welcome to email me.

I think I have enthused about This Poison before, they are great. My other favourites from this selection would be V-Twin, June Brides and the Razorcuts, but I wish they had picked a different TVPs song...

Never heard of Juniper Moon... any clues?

A friend of mine who was really there (or thereabouts) commented: "I'm glad Primal Scream have been outed after the revisionism of their recent compilation" which I thought a fair point.

It's more an attitude that some bands started taking, probably in the early 90s. (Though probably that was when I started becoming aware of it.)

Strange that it's 95% British, and odd choices for the other 5%... no Flying Nun? And I'm still not sure it beats the "Gimme Shelter" video (though that had no MBV...)

Kate I know it's not clear but by yr definition I'd say that "indie" was a genre by 1985, everyone indie then knew that they were part of a genre with generic rules and boundaries. What they didn't know then was that this stuff really wouldn't cross over into the pop charts. This is almost certainly an age thing, isn't it? I hate it when that happens.

instead, as David R pointed out, we get Pristine Christine AGAIN
(lessee - the single itself, Stardust, Air Balloon Road, Shadow Factory, Sarah 100) hmm we really needed it on yet another comp, right?

Eggs? Pop Will Eat Itself? the horrible first twee inkilings of MBV? what were they thinking?

To do this without putting on The Hit Parade's "Autobiography" or Courtney Love's "Shaniko" anything by Confetti, Melody Dog, Softies, Tiger Trap, Orchids, Cobalt, etc is a sadly missed opportunity

I'll let you know, but I'm not giving up the day job just yet.
I was unaware of Matt writing the sleeve notes, but it's unlikely he had any sway in selecting the content. He seems like a reasonable choice, though most of his writing in Smoke is pretty annoying. Jim, your opinion of him is....well, he's fucked-up, rather than a fuckwit, but he's always been one to cut of his nose to spite his face. For a label that was once so answerable to the public, he seems so contemptuous of the same audience these days. No wonder all his bands left him!

Astonished to find that I only have 14 of the listed numbers, so i guess i'll be buying it.

The comp's out on 23rd August on Mute btw.

i own about half of the above, mostly on compilations, mostly on vinyl or tape.
a1, a5, a6, a11, a12?, a16, a17, a20, a21, a23
b4, b6, b7, b8, b9, b12, b13, b14, b15, b18, b20, b21

have listened to exactly 1 of them in the last 6 months.

Koogs if you weren't ashamed of me for something the world would end.

I'm sure I'm neglecting lots of stuff, but I'm at work and keep getting pulled away so this'll have to do for now.

I also have no idea how many cd's worth this is, so I'll just leave it as a list here.

Five? Which ones are they?

Look, did indie pop even exist here in the US? I sure can't think of any US indie pop songs.

Magnetic Fields, Eggs, Mary Lou Lord, Dressy Bessy, The Velvet Crush

Search these fine US-based purveyors of all sorts of indie poop: Harriet Records, Shelflife, Radio Khartoum, Matinee, TEENFREAKINGBEAT, etc etc etc

x-post (but not really!)

SHIT I FORGOT BEAT HAPPENING IN MY LIST! So that's 6 US bands.

Indie (i.e. independent record labels, small releases, etc.) was certainly a phenomenon by 1985, even if it wasn't a genre. In fact, what made a lot of the stuff good was that it was *not* a genre, it was more like a way of thinking or approaching music. A few years on, indie or indiepop or whatever had calcified into a genre, the cliches had been established and people seemed to be setting out to make Indie-sounding records, rather than making records they liked that just happened to have a certain sound. That's when I lost interest in it.

No Young Marble Giants?

are there better indie pop comps w/this same idea, but better execution i could pick up?

Its a travesty that the Vaselines track is the dreadful Molly's Lips rather than the fizzy ribena pop of Son of a Gun.

I don't know. I guess I was expecting more of a Belle and Sebastian kinda thing.

Like a fool, I've stuck with Primal Scream all along, but I still think that All Fall Down is their last really good record. I would buy it if both sides were there. I think it is a Good Thing that it is available again, but they can stick it up their arses anyway.

Somebody somewhere must be interested in the Jesse Garon track because it was produced by Douglas Hart of Jesus and Mary Chain fame. I think he just pressed 'play' and 'record' at the same time.

Surely it is time for a Fizzbombs/Rote Kapelle axis compilation.

Yay! The omission of Orange Juice from the RT parade of usual suspects almost seem so conspicuous as to constitute a diss!

The Flatmates - I Could Be In Heaven

this song is so ace. especially the "woooo!" toward the end.

here's what's on mine:

"va_-_one_too_twee_(an_indiepop_retrospective)-3cd-2004-rentboy

Compiled lovingly from lotsa old, worn and hard-to-find
vinyl 7s and 12s - and some not so old (but still hard-to-find) CDs
I hope you love all this stuff as much as I do, it's an integral
part of my history. I was raised on the stuff...

hugs,
rents

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CD 1
Another Sunny Day - Anorak City
Shop Assistants - All That Ever Mattered
Black Tambourine - Throw Aggi Off The Bridge
Talulah Gosh - Bringing Up Baby
Pop Will Eat Itself - Like An Angel
Jesus And Mary Chain - Upside Down
The Vaselines - Son Of A Gun
Action Painting! - These Things Happen
The Loft - Up The Hill And Down The Slope
The Go-Betweens - Lee Remick
The Bodines - William Shatner
Josef K - Sorry For Laughing
Orange Juice - Falling and Laughing (7 inch version)
Bubblegum Splash - Just Walked Away
14 Iced Bears - Come Get Me
Autoclave - Dr Seuss
The Soup Dragons - Whole Wide World
Unrest - Winona Ryder (xx Version)
Blueboy - Popkiss
The Flatmates - Happy All The Time
St Christopher - All Of A Tremble
Biff Bang Pow! - Love's Going Out Of Fashion
The Pastels - I'm Alright With You
The Rosehips - Room In Your Heart
The Orchids - Caveman
Shonen Knife - Twist Barbie
The Sea Urchins - A Morning Odyssey

CD 2
The Hit Parade - Autobiography
The Groove Farm - The Best Part Of Being With You
The Springfields - Sunflower
Strawberry Story - Ashlands Road
Razorcuts - I'll Still Be There (Single Version)
Tiger Trap - Supercrush
Blast Off Country Style - All She Wants To Do Is Ride Her Bike
Tsunami - Brickbook Building
Beat Happening - What's Important
Marine Girls - Honey
The Clouds - Tranquil
The Sugargliders - Ahprahran
The Lucksmiths - Untidy Towns
The Chesterfields - Love Mountain
The Weather Prophets - Like Frankie Lymon
Miaow - When It All Comes Down
Westlake - Rings On Her Fingers
Lois - Press Play And Record
Sundress - Give Your Heart Another Day
Choo Choo Train - High
Wake - Carbrain
Louis Philippe - Lazy English Sun
Notre Dame - Sur Ton Repondeur
Television Personalities - Goodnight Mr Spaceman
BMX Bandits - Serious Drugs
The Jasmine Minks - Cold Heart
The Wedding Present - My Favourite Dress

CD 3
Heavenly - I Fell In Love Last Night
The She-Brews - Leave All Your Old Loves
Magnetic Fields - 100,000 Fireflies
Tuscadero - Nancy Drew
Belle And Sebastian - String Bean Jean
White Town - Hair Like Alain Delon
Cobalt - Saturday
Allen Clapp & His Orchestra - Something Strange Happens
Le Mans - ¡Oh Romeo Romeo!
Confetti - Yes Please!
Even As We Speak - Falling Down The Stairs
The Softies - I Love You More
Screen Prints - Evening Feel
Rocketship - Hey Hey Girl
Courtney Love - Shaniko
The Siddeleys - Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes)
Honeybunch - Mine Your Own Business
Opal - Empty Box Blues
Primal Scream - Velocity Girl
Revolving Paint Dream - In The Afternoon
The Pooh Sticks - Sweet Baby James
Felt - Bitter End
Melody Dog - Futuristic Lover
Hopkirk & Lee - Free Arthur Lee
The Clientele - Saturday
The Field Mice - Between Hello And Goodbye"

this has been the soundtrack to a lot of my summer so far and made me fall in love with indie pop all over again

at the risk of being inundated with requests - send me a slsk msg and i'll let you grab it

but still nowhere near as good as it should've been