ILM is going away for 2 Weeks: SEIZE the opportunity now to make 1 DECLARATIVE STATEMENT, an INARGUABLE TRUTH (to you) that you'd like to SEAR into the FATUOUS BRAINPAN of your PABULUM-FETISHIZING fe

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KILLING JOKE AT THEIR BEST ARE BETTER THAN ANY BAND YOU CAN NAME

Go.....!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

that's a surprising statement.

― keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

surprising....yes...SURPRISING IN ITS NEAR-PERFECT, CRYSTALINE ENCAPSULATION OF TRUTH, YOU MEAN!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Taste is subjective. Opinions stated as fact are annoying.

― Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm really excited that I get to hear all about Big & Rich until the next Pazz and Jop poll from about 6 people, really I am, because they're already the MOST OVERRATED MUSICAL ACT AROUND who are truly BETTER IN THEORY THAN IN PRACTICE! you know who's better? Garth Brooks in that Dr Pepper ad.

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

That's the spirit, Gear.

Taste is subjective. Opinions stated as fact are annoying.

No, fun-hating thread-killing dicks like yourself are annoying.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 1 July 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

If Big & Rich win Pazz & Jop, I might start paying attention to P&J.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Siamese Dream is still one of the five greatest rock albums ever recorded. Take this time to listen to it again...err, for the first time.

(sorry Scott but its true)

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

but Alex, you built up the thread as something revelatory and then you just re-stated what you always say.

― keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Are Big & Rich their names, or is it a description of their music?

"No, fun-hating thread-killing dicks like yourself are annoying."

Sorry to thread-kill. Ok, I'll have a go...

THE SMITHS ARE FUNKY!

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

that was kinda lame.

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm merely doing my part, Keith.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

When it really comes down to it in the end, you realize that your most favorite band ever just isn't as good as you once thought.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not sure i've ever heard killing joke. well, other than that Nirvana song.

― keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The three greatest bands in the history of the universe are:

THE KINKS
BIG STAR
STEELY DAN

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The songs on Rites of Spring's "All Through a Life" EP sure are fantastic! Butt too bad about the ridiculous vocals!

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

That may be true in many cases, Elvis (many of my once-favorite bands -- though still dear to me -- just don't cut the mustard in hindsight), but that has never been the case with t'Joke. Yes, they put out the odd clunker album, but if you read my statement again (scroll up, please) you'll see I qualified it with ...AT THEIR BEST..., thereby clearing up any misconceptions (and excluding, say, the entirety of Outside the Gate from the assertion).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

KISSES, ILM! I LEAVE YOU WITH KISSES!

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― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

DURST ANNOYS ME LESS THAN BIG & RICH

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex I did see the "at their best" statement in your opener and I wasn't speaking to you and only you directly. I notice that over time, especially with career bands, the bits and pieces that you like about them prove to be an exception.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the bits and pieces that you like about them prove to be an exception.

Not necessarily, though. I mean, if the reason you really dig Rush is because of Neil Peart's flashy symbal-abuse, I'd imagine your interest has sustained the test of time.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex OTM

― Kate Bush (jed), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

JJ Cale made several very very good records

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex OTM

-- Kate Bush (colin_o_har...), July 2nd, 2004. (later)

She says, applying a hanky to her reddened tear-ducts.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

THE VINES ARE DUE FOR A CRITICAL RE-EVALUATION!

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

IN HONOR OF THE ILX SABBATICAL OF 2004, I WILL NOT BE WEARING PANTS FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS

― Evanston Wade (EWW), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

SKYNYRD

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

-Big Star suck hard
-Bark Psychosis is alright
-Disco inferno is a little better than average
-Talk talk have their moments
-Loveless is pretty good if you're in the mood for it, I guess
-Pink Flag is a normal, boring, first wave of punk album
-Jay Z would be lucky to fit into the top 100 rappers of the 90s, if that
-Big and Rich are distressingly generic
-Pink Turns to Blue is Husker Du's only good song

I had many.

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

That which is music, it is good.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 July 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Metallica is, like, gayer than Madonna.

― autovac (autovac), Friday, 2 July 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahahaha.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 2 July 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I JUST ATE A WHOLE CAN OF GARBONZOS

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 2 July 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Help me buy a new car, 'cause a friend of mine wrote it off.

A DRUMMER WITHOUT A CAR IS LIKE A ONE LEGGED MAN AT AN ARSE-KICKING CONVENTION

― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 2 July 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Pitchfork gets it right more often than the Village Voice, despite the latter having better writers!

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 2 July 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

MCLUSKY

― Shaun (shaun), Friday, 2 July 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

LOU RAWLS is far, far overdue for a critical re-evaluation and a greatest-hits-hyping on the order of what Candi Staton's been getting in recent months.

― Joseph McCombs, Friday, 2 July 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

UNIQUE THREE SHIT ON ALL IDM EVER AND THEY AREN'T EVEN IDM

― Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 2 July 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

TISM'S MUSICAL ABILITY DEFIES POPULAR OPINION

― The Ghost at Number Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 2 July 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

[i]MCLUSKY[/i]

This man speaks the truth.

― Maciej Kasperowicz (Maciej), Friday, 2 July 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, just cause I really, really want something to be real html code, doesn't mean it is.

― Maciej Kasperowicz (Maciej), Friday, 2 July 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

George Clinton led both
of the best two U.S. bands
AT THE SAME DAMN TIME

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Kiss and Steely Dan? *flees*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

David Fair is the greatest guitar player and dummer there has ever been or ever will be.

― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, jack.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

im just doin' what alex ordered.

also add, David Fair is one of the greatest artists and The Five Skunks is a superlative children's book.

― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm gay and single and ready to mingle!

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Give me a jingle, Fingal. Oh wait.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I am in awe of Alex from NYC's anger. It's a beautiful thing. Seriously, Alex is my kinda people.

― Sara Sherr, Friday, 2 July 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, how will I survive for two weeks without such anger in my life? Alex, can you email me once every couple of days and unleash some written bile about a subject of your choice? Thx.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

roxy music would've been a better band without the saxophone.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 2 July 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ONLY THREE HOURS LEFT TO EXHORT YOUR SCREEDS, PEOPLES!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh, six, actually.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was 4am our time?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

THE CURE'S "DISINTEGRATION" SOUNDS AN AWFUL LOT LIKE FELT'S "THE STAGNANT POOL"

err, parts, anyway.

― Evanston Wade (EWW), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont think i can go 2 weeks without hearing about nicky wire in a banana suit.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

or whatever that guys always going on about

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I STILL DON'T KNOW WHO THE FUCK NICKY WIRE IS, AND WHAT S/HE HAS TO DO WITH A BANANA SUIT!

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

NICKY WIRE PLAYS BASS FOR MANIC STREET PREACHERS. HE ONCE WISHED DEATH BY AIDS ON MICHAEL STIPE. HE ENJOYS THE COMPANY OF BANANA SUITS. EXACTLY THREE OF THESE FOUR SENTENCES ARE TRUTHFUL.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The Three Stooges could actually harmonize pretty well.

― jim wentworth (wench), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

That song with Huey Lewis and Gwyneth Paltrow has some nice harmonising also, yes

― mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The Oblivians did everything that Jon Spencer and Greg Dulli only wish they could have done with blues and soul.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was 4am our time?

4 AM Pacific Time. You are not on the Pacific, unless King Kong moved the city over here without you noticing. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear OTM

Oh and Devo is to skinny white music loving dorks what cheezy nü-country ballads are to 40something southern divorcés. And thats why I love them.

― Mike Salmo (salmo), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM sucks now and has turned into a carbon copy of every other rockist-ass indie boy music board on the web.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM needs more rock n roll, less indie noise!

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003KZF.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

No, no it doesn't! ILM needs both less "noise", whatever the fuck that shit is, AND far, far less fucking rock and roll.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't mean er, "rock and roll"

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000C9ZLD.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I mean ROCK AND ROLL

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000I7SM.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

They are both rock and roll you fool. First person to make argument for supposed distinction of latter using phrase such as "balls to the wall" or its semantic equiv. gets murdered by me.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

you rock Dan!

― mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh shit! I just thought of a fucking awesome feature that ILX should get someday! Search options so that someone (ie: me) can go through and make a massive list of words that he/she does not want to find in threads (eg: "Killing Joke", "The Vines", "The Smiths", "the blues", "rock and roll", etc.) and do searches such that ILX only displays threads that do not contain these words, and also ILX would automatically remember this massive list for me and I wouldn't have to even know that some of you assholes exist!

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

if video killed the radio star, the internet is fucking video's mother while he forces video to watch, "Clockwork Orange" style.

viddy well little brother, viddy well...

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Well you could pull it all in as XML and do just that

― mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

And this function should apply to individual posts instead of entire threads so that people could make use of threads such as "Recommend me something to download" and "Your favorite single of 200x". I'm getting all excited just thinking about it.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Dan, why not eat a big bowl of your own dung?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 2 July 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

the Strokes are detached, indie mopey fop rock, COmpulsive Gamblers/Oblivians are just straight out balls to the wall, take no prisoners music, the raw shit!

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 2 July 2004 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't say the Strokes are necessarily mopey.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 2 July 2004 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Did I say mopey? I meant dopey. Unlike say the Deadly Snakes, who are true pistols-at-dawn, run-for-cover ROCK N ROLL

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 2 July 2004 06:15 (twenty-one years ago)

GABBA IS BETTER THAN WHATEVER *YOU* LIKE

― boom! i fucked your hard-drive (don), Friday, 2 July 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Alex aren't you getting sort of old?

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 2 July 2004 07:00 (twenty-one years ago)

By which I mean "you are the fucking antithesis of everything interesting and worthwhile in this world you hopeless cunt. Fuck off."

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 2 July 2004 07:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez, this is what happens to a PLUR kid the morning after, I take it?

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 2 July 2004 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

quick, call me a "cunt" before ILX goes down!

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 2 July 2004 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I Like ... (no it's gone!)

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 2 July 2004 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

If I might interrupt, I'd like to return things briefly (and a little seriously, though I know being serious is nearly a sin on ILM) to the glorious title of this thread. I think Ned had the right idea when he tried to answer that impressive title with a profound statement about music.

Nietzsche said "Without music, life would be a mistake."

Okay, seriousness over. Continue.

― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 2 July 2004 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear you are a cunt!

(I resolved to see ILX off with a salvo of scandalous flaming)

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 2 July 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

THIS IS THE HOME OF THE VAIN!

get thee hence, or suffer the consequences!

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 2 July 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh no! You didn't say it! This is the home of the vain the home of the vain where are the obligatory...uh...never mind.

― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 2 July 2004 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

TURNS OUT BLACK PEOPLE DO LIKE TO ROCK AFTER ALL

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 July 2004 08:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The Delgados new album is out 20th September. I'm rather looking forward to it.

In the meantime - I've heard The Futureheads album. It is gonna rock ya.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 2 July 2004 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The Futureheads albums is out July 12th, same day as Dogs Die In Hot Cars' album, and 'Some Girls'. It's going to be a very good day.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 2 July 2004 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)

double x post

LOL! How appropriate since they gave birth to rock in the first place! Jeez. Great song, though. That bass line is so powerful M.E.S.'s presence is barely needed. Oh I know, I know blasphemy, give me a break, it's the one song that might cause me to say that.

Seriously that link is like a miracle before my eyes, though. Is this really the surrogate ILM we've all been hoping for?

This is great, I can post any damn fool drunken thing I want and won't regret it in the morning because it won't be here then!

Heard something good by The Futureheads on Peel once...will investigate.

― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 2 July 2004 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)

giving birth to a rock must really hurt

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 July 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

van der graaf generator are the best band that ever has been or ever will be, f3wlz!!!11

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Melissa is ace and should restart Quicksilver Shapeshifter and complete her 2003 reviews

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The new Embrace album is going to be very good indeed and I no longer feel guilty about liking them because I am at balance with my appreciation of their goodness and my decrying of their faults.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm...I think giving birth to a rock is one thing and giving birth to a rock that rolls is another. What do you think?

Embrace. Actually never have given them a fair go, I'm afraid. Must rectify.

― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Bear in mind that I like them for almost entirely different reasons to their other fans.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

At 10 p.m. last night I saw a repeat of "Dennis Miller Live" that I needed to see, if only to drill the message he delivered into my head. He said something along the lines of "Don't compromise yourself. Like what you like, despite what critics might have to say about it." I needed to hear that because I had thought for many years that because the music criticisms I was reading tended to skew against what I most enjoyed musically, that my musical tastes must be shit, that I wasn't supposed to really, seriously explore all sorts of other musical horizons and worlds, that I should stick with what I knew and loved because there was no hope for me. I was really angered, as well, but most of the effect of reading negative review after negative review was that "serious music listeners" would never take me seriously if I pursued what I in my heart of hearts most appreciated musically, so I shouldn't even bother going exploring musically.

I pledge to stop being like this. I will become a more adventurous music listener. I will demand to be taken seriously by everyone. I won't apologize for liking what I do or not having the wide depth or breadth of knowledge musically that practically every single one of you has. I will not do any of these things because I will not compromise myself one second longer.

I like what I like and it's a part of the total package that is me. This is my new personal slogan. Pass it along.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 2 July 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

See ya in two weeks, people. I love you all! :P

― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Friday, 2 July 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

ALL IRON AND WINE FANS ARE NOT BEARDO'S

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Friday, 2 July 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

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