Billy Corgan (who once decried Big Black and Pavement as irrelevant music "to take drugs to") on the state of rock.

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"When everything is everybody’s, then nobody owns anything."

I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Billy, don't be a hero!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

what kind of drugs should someone do while listening to Big Black? The mind boggles.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Radiohead is constantly compared to Pink Floyd. I don’t think that’s a comparable comparison.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 19 July 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't Billy Corgan all into Jesus now?

Also I used to listen to a lot of Big Black in my heavily-sedated days.

adam (adam), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sad they didn't actually talk to Billy about Bright Eyes and the Rapture.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 19 July 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

what kind of drugs should someone do while listening to Big Black? The mind boggles.

l-dopa, natch

common_person (common_person), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

well, yeah.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

On the local nu-metal/alt-rock station they've started playing Polyphonic Spree! ROCK IS CHANGING

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 19 July 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I spent my GCSE time getting stoned a listening to Big Black and the Throwing Muses. Oh. That's why I'm fucked.

Gribowitz (Lynskey), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

OH OH OHO!!@!@@!!@@1 tHIS IS SO GUNYNYNYNNYNY FUNNNYYYYY

http://www.starla.org/articles/billlisa.htm


LR: Pavement had some nasty lyrics about you on one of their albums. Did the groovy, indie scene turn on you when you got popular?

BC: Sure. But my whole thing is that people don't fall in love to Pavement, people don't get up in the morning before they go to school and put on Big Black. They put on Smashing Pumpkins or Hole or Nirvana, because these bands actually mean something to them. It's the difference between music you put on to take drugs to, and music you put on to live your life.

I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Sure, but doesn't he get credit for refusing to sell those two songs as advertsing because they mean something to him, even if they mean nothing to us (me)?

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't imagine why Billy Corgan would think it's more flattering to compare his own band to Hole than to ANY other band

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 19 July 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Apologies to my buddy Ned, but Corgan is a fatuous jackass.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I still

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 19 July 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I should start waking up to "Today" every morning.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

um

"I still (heart) the Pumpkins though"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 19 July 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Sure, but doesn't he get credit for refusing to sell those two songs as advertsing because they mean something to him, even if they mean nothing to us (me)?

I found that amazing since his attitude circa Siamese Dream was "so what if I'm a sellout?"

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I should start waking up to "Starla" every morning. That would make me so much happier.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 19 July 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

>I found that amazing since his attitude circa Siamese Dream was "so what if I'm a sellout?"

It's one thing to say it, another to do it, I think. Corgan's said a lot of stupid stuff, and will continue to say stupid stuff, but I'm not sure he's actually done a lot of stupid stuff. At least, no stupider than anyone else. If he's turning down millions of dollars by refusing to sell his songs for ads, I say bully for him.

Of course, this is not to say he won't do it next year.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

This is possibly the first time in my life I've wanted Everett True to come along and give his thoughts about Billy Corgan

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

COMPARABLE COMPARISON

BILLY CORGAN LEARN WORDS PLS THX K BYE

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

On the upside, listening to Smashing Pumpkins stopped me dreaming of a future my parents couldn't possibly provide

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure he's actually done a lot of stupid stuff. At least, no stupider than anyone else.

Anybody else here dress like Nosferatu for a few years, one spent with Kenny Aaronoff making angry faces behind you? I don't think so.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

wait is it 1994 again? last night was a tad rough but i swear the mind says it's 2004

kephm, Monday, 19 July 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

If he's turning down millions of dollars by refusing to sell his songs for ads, I say bully for him.

I think that if he was in the position of being offered these deals circa Siamese..., he'd probably take 'em. Which is fine, it's not like I look to people like him for consistency anyway (or for consistency in general - it's the hobgoblin of small minds don'tchaknow?). But I do think it's incredibly easy for him to make statements like that about his not wanting to do ads with those songs because he's already a multi-millionaire anyway. I mean, if "Today" was so freakin' special, why dress up like an ice cream man in a video for it?

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

because ice cream is special too

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

no, ice cream is a pretty everyday kinda thing.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"what kind of drugs should someone do while listening to Big Black?"

Robotussin and malt liquor.

earlnash, Monday, 19 July 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

But my whole thing is that people don't fall in love to Pavement . . .

Don't tell Gygax!

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, this is all so predictable. Sour grapes from a man whose time in the spotlight has come and gone (my own beloved Killing Joke are way guilty of it as well....there are countless interviews wherein Jaz bitterly spat about the music scene that failed to embrace the Joke after their initial impact). Corgan just needs to get over it and embrace his status as a dinosaur.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

but at least early Killing Joke made good music.

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

but at least early Killing Joke made good music.

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!

http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy/history/VonBraun/Celebrating.gif

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 July 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, Billy Corgan succeeds once again in not making me want to think about him.

Huck, Monday, 19 July 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.gigglebounce.com/conan/conanments/conbilly.gif

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

zwat? zwho?

kephm, Monday, 19 July 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I just assumed most Smashing Pumpkins songs were about ice cream, and in fact remain confused as to why more videos of theirs don't feature ice cream trucks. Did I miss something?

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

You're actually quite correct, Josh. This photo, taken in 1979 (of course), was the inspiration for the Pumpkins' finest song:

http://users.adelphia.net/~jrfisher/images/camping.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

who gives a shit what Corgan thinks? He made Siamese Dream, so I don't care what silly things he says.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Very edgy of Corgan to don that bikini. Media savvy lass, that one.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

sometimes i wonder just how out of touch music industry people are, and then i read a billy corgan interview.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

There's nothing more hilarious than a musician railing against the notion of what rock should be, while at the same time buying into tired old tropes.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 19 July 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude's been "out of touch" since at least Adore.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 19 July 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

was Adore their first record?

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 19 July 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

you just made me spew coffee. thanks a lot, gygax! my shirt is ruined.

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 19 July 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

:-D

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 19 July 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

So funny, so funny!

But really, Gish and Siamese Dream are actually pretty good!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 19 July 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i have never heard a smashing pumpkins album all the way through

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 19 July 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I meant I didn't think Corgan would have noticed that it's possible for Malkmus to write in someone else's voice. I phrased it poorly, but I was thinking more along the lines of Billy only thinking "Malkmus has a lyric that sounds like it's putting down Smashing Pumpkins, therefore Malkmus himself must feel that way."

Would he have any reason not to think that if he had somehow neglected to read the one issue of Artforum that might have shed some light on the subject? I mean, I understand the concept of writing in a different voice, but if a dude in one '90's alternarock band writes a song that references another '90's alternarock band, it seems like the simplest assumption would be that he's talking in his own voice, unless the singer gives you reason to think otherwise from the rest of the lyrics to the song, which I'm pretty sure Malkmus doesn't. Not catching an extremely obscure reference that maybe 20 or 30 people in the world (or however many people subscribe to Artforum) would get doesn't make Corgan the asshole.

St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I always thought the "I/They" bit was a sly commentary on the different levels of music stardom. Remember, this was right around the time when "alternative" styles were seeping into the mainstream. It seemed like Malkmus was proposing that Pavement circa S&E/CRCR didn't have much to do with the Smashing Pumpkins crowd, and vice versa. Though it must have also been fun to sing about how "I could really give a fuck" about the Smashing Pumpkins, knowing how steamed Billy would get.

Did Stone Temple Pilots ever comment on "Range Life?"

mike a, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Did Stone Temple Pilots ever comment on "Range Life?"

I read an interview with the guitarist (Robert DeLeo, I think?) who thought it was really funny and said Pavement was his current favorite band. "They do the most amazing slag on us in this one song" was the gist of the quote.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

NA - Malkmus mentioned the character in "Range Life" in more interviews than just the Artforum one. Nearly every Pavement interview at the time of Crooked's release mentioned it.

It seemed like Malkmus was proposing that Pavement circa S&E/CRCR didn't have much to do with the Smashing Pumpkins crowd, and vice versa. Though it must have also been fun to sing about how "I could really give a fuck" about the Smashing Pumpkins, knowing how steamed Billy would get.

That's interesting too because this was also around the time of the biggest hit Pavement would ever score: "Cut Your Hair."

I don't remember Albini saying anything bad about poor Billy. I would think those nice houses and the Ferrari would be enough solace for Mr. Corgan, to protect him from a guy who makes $24,000 a year.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

are any pavement songs truly coherent in their POV?

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Boo-yah! I make more than him! Suck on that, Albini!

St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Not sure if buy that Albini #. I bet he "claims" $24k/yr. Could you build a couple studios and afford top-line analog equipment and staff both studios AND exist on $24k/yr.? His annual income is most definitely net of his investments into his studios, personal businesses. Or am I being naive?

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

$24K a year is his salary from Electrical, not a measure of what has been invested in Electrical. Plus since he lives there, I'd bet he pays a nominal rent (if any). A lot of Electrical's earnings have been, since the beginning, ploughed back into the studio (which could not have been built without a revolving credit line).

are any pavement songs truly coherent in their POV?

what's so incoherent about "Range Life?"

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

also gygax! perhaps it's a good idea for small businesses and/or privately-owned businesses to separate business and personal finances?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, okay, that is net of his royalties and back catalog and touring/merch. licensing income.

Do you think Albini is the type of guy who could live with debt (ie, knowing he owes something to somebody)? I certainly don't!

Like some genius once sang: "Boy, you gotta pay your dues, before you pay your rent"!

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

again, $24K is his salary from Electrical. I have no idea how much he earns from Shellac appearances, royalties, etc. (although for the one Shellac show I booked, their fee was based on the rate that Albini and Weston charge as engineers - which again is not their salary).

Do you think Albini is the type of guy who could live with debt (ie, knowing he owes something to somebody)? I certainly don't!

No, he does not seem like the kind of person to want to carry personal debt, but I stress (yet again!) that Electrical's finances are separate from any individual that works there.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, you're positive he financed both studios through institutions and not through personal expenses?

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

HStencil, CPA to the Grudgeful Indie Superproducers

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hstencil's Excel spreadsheets are full of emoticons

I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, you're positive he financed both studios through institutions and not through personal expenses?

I don't know about the studio in his former house on the Northwest Side, but I doubt that that was financed in any way besides personal debt and/or savings (he did have a day job up until 1986). Since he sold that house to a friend, I doubt there were many proceeds he could've used from the sale towards building Electrical, which is a multi-million-dollar facility. In other things I've read by Albini, he has mentioned revolving credit from financial institutions as being essential to starting new studios, so I'm assuming he's talking from experience.

In my experience, Steve is anything but a grudgeful person.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel kind of ashamed about this, but I think my only knowledge of Steve Albini is that he produced In Utero, to my mind the greatest Nirvana album. So he gets props for that. I know he's supposed to be a big asshole, but so was Cobain.

Richard K (Richard K), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

He likes This Heat!

artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Billy Corgan is always right about everything. Except his claim that Nirvana, Hole, and the like were positive forces in music.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Two of my friends are huge Shellac fans and Steve, Bob, and Todd have been extremely nice and gracious to them....one time they went to a show in Indiana and Steve gave them $60 (or something like that amount) out of his own pocket because they had been following them around on a brief midwest tour....I met him once and he was very polite....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Billy Corgan is always right about everything.

So the world really is a vampire?

St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I met him once and he was very polite....

he was very polite even though he played my college! Poor guy, dumb college kids all around.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

wasn't the Electrical # posted on buddyhead for a while, with a little line like "call that fucker albini up and ask him why he wouldn't produce the icarus line!" or something equally fun.

i called. and promptly blanked on what i had made up to ask ol' steve.

eedd, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

the phone number is probably on the web site, and more than likely you'll get funnyman Jon Novotny instead of Steve.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i bet that's who answered in a very angered tone...
maybe that's what threw me off. the angrah!!!11!

edde, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, more of the same old rock star mythology that plagues our world. I think the main problem with rock is pretentious douches like Viceroy of Bullshit Billy Corgan.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

this is my favoritest thread ever

j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

He also doesn't seem to realize that daring talent is usually cordoned off. I'd hardly call him an original and daring voice. You'd have to be cloistered to think Smashing Pumpkins redefined what's possible in rock music.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

they pioneered the double album with Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ha.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Billy Corgan should be sent to the front. And then abducted and ritually beheaded.

OK, not I'm just being needlessly caustic.


James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

WHY R U TALKING ALL ABOT HAS BEEN DINOSAR GUYS KLIKE BALDY ORGONE AND STEPHANIE MILKMOUSE WHEN FRANZ FERDINDinAND IS HEAR TO ROCK OUR WORLDS. THEY ARE THE FUTURE OF ROCK AND NOT JUST ROCK THE FUTURE OF MUSIC AND ART ENTERTAINMENT!

Antoine, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Cute.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm....i wish there was a funny email written by this girl who likes Franz Ferdinand....who am I kidding, though? That's just a crazy pipe dream.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Billy Corgan should be sent to the front. And then abducted and ritually beheaded

When I am king he will be first against the wall.
Wakka wakka wakka!

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Back to the front
you will do what I say, when I say
Back to the front
you will die when I say, you must die
Back to the front
you coward
you servant
you blindman

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that from "My Neck, My Back"?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I'M NT CUTE AND I'M NOT A GIRL I AM A MAN WHO LIKES FRANZ FERDINAND! U R ALL STOOPD

Antoine, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, no it's Trina

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

worst fake googler ever

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Ya get nothin' for nothin'
If that's what ya do
Turn around bitch I got a use for you
Besides you ain't got nothin' better to do
And I'm bored

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Back to the front
you will do what I say, when I say
Back to the front
you will die when I say, you must die
Back to the front
you coward
you servant
you blindman
-- M@tt He1geson (matt@game[remove]informer.com), July 20th, 2004.


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Is that from "My Neck, My Back"?
-- Curt1sss (sevenxvii...), July 20th, 2004.

If you want to know, that's "Disposable Heroes" from Metallica's classic Master of Puppets album.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the phone number is probably on the web site, and more than likely you'll get funnyman Jon Novotny instead of Steve.

-- hstencil (hstenc!...), July 20th, 2004.
i bet that's who answered in a very angered tone...
maybe that's what threw me off. the angrah!!!11!

-- edde (e...), July 20th, 2004.

try living with him.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

An unforeseen future nestled somewhere in time.
Unsuspecting victims no warnings, no signs.
Judgment day the second coming arrives.
Before you see the light you must die.
Forgotten children, conform a new faith,
Avidity and lust controlled by hate.
[the] never ending search for your shattered sanity,
Souls of damnation in their own reality.
Chaos rampant,
An age of distrust.
Confrontations.
Impulsive habitat.
Bastard sons beget your cunting daughters,
Promiscuous mothers with your incestuous fathers.
Engreat souls condemned for [all] eternity,
Sustained by immoral observance a domineering deity.
Chaos rampant,
An age of distrust.
Confrontations.
Impulsive sabbath.
On and on, south of heaven [x 4]
Lead: king
The root of all evil is the heart of a black soul.
A force that has lived all eternity.
A never ending search for a truth never told.
The loss of all hope and your dignity.
Chaos rampant,
An age of distrust.
Confrontations.
Impulsive habitat.
On and on, south of heaven [x 4]

I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

living with him?!!!

eek.

no thank you, sir. i believe i'll stick with my gf.
and the cats.

they're bad, though. and she gets PMS, so, that's sorta the same, right?

yeah...
i know.
it's not.

eedd, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

no woman with PMS can match the full fury of Novotny when angered. Trust me on this one.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I once saw a rawk documentary that had several long excerpts from an Albini interview, and he told the tale (all deadpan) of how, the day after Jerry Garcia died, someone printed up fliers with the Dead logo and - "Call the Dead hotline and express your thoughts and feelings about Jerry's passing!" - with Albini's home number. And spread 'em all over a park in Chicago where lots of hippies hang out (or something to that effect). Albini said (with a hint of a smile) how he had admired that maneuver.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahahaaaaaaaaaa

I bet he was oh so sympathetic to the plight of the mourning deadhead.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

An unforeseen future nestled somewhere in time.
Unsuspecting victims no warnings, no signs.
Judgment day the second coming arrives.
Before you see the light you must die.
Forgotten children, conform a new faith,
Avidity and lust controlled by hate.
[the] never ending search for your shattered sanity,
Souls of damnation in their own reality.
Chaos rampant,
An age of distrust.
Confrontations.
Impulsive habitat.
Bastard sons beget your cunting daughters,
Promiscuous mothers with your incestuous fathers.
Engreat souls condemned for [all] eternity,
Sustained by immoral observance a domineering deity.
Chaos rampant,
An age of distrust.
Confrontations.
Impulsive sabbath.
On and on, south of heaven [x 4]
Lead: king
The root of all evil is the heart of a black soul.
A force that has lived all eternity.
A never ending search for a truth never told.
The loss of all hope and your dignity.
Chaos rampant,
An age of distrust.
Confrontations.
Impulsive habitat.
On and on, south of heaven [x 4]

-- I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (zon...), July 21st, 2004.

Your ways are mysterious, Jon.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

does aaron dilloway like pavement? i bet john olsen doesn't.

benton, #1 fan (jackcole), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

jen echo knows for sure.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)


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