If "What Have You Done" by Wonder & Kano isn't good enough to finally warrant it's own thread, we're all in trouble...

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Big boys come good.

broken twig, Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

slsk is really no good for grime.. tried to find this a couple days ago and came up short...

m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Ummm....it's all over slsk!!

broken twig, Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Try now!

broken twig, Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

(and it's on Gabba Net)

broken twig, Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks! i'd temporarily forgotten abt gabba (but i'm still getting zilch slsk results)

m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The riddim's nice but Kano's flow is dull. I like the Skepta remix of "Love Is Here To Stay" though sick of DTI. "Girlfriend Story" by Gemma Fox f. Tinchey Strider is my favourite grimy rnb tune at the moment.

scg, Sunday, 25 July 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah "Girlfriend's Story" was great the one time I heard it! Does the Skepta remix of "Love Is Here To Stay" (a major fave of mine) just swap the underlying Meridian riddim with the DTI riddim?

(me I just want Terra Danjah to go round making countless melodic song versions of 02/03 minimal grime riddims - "Love Is Here To Stay" is like the grime equiv. of "No Letting Go" or "It's On" or "Thick & Thin"!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 26 July 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

or even 'ready she ready'

prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah of course but I meant one-off shimmery pop versions of otherwise full on dancefloor riddims.

"Ready She Ready" (a personal fave of mine obv!) is of course shimmery pop but that's just because Tubby T is a genius and not because of any change to the arrangement.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i see.

(terra danjah feat tubby t and some grime dudes inc demon i think - ready she ready rmx!!!)

prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i can never get anything like this on slsk either, but i'll add some more ilm users to my list ithinks

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"(terra danjah feat tubby t and some grime dudes inc demon i think - ready she ready rmx!!!)"

This is a joke/fantasy/cruel trick right?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Terra Danjah's "Dead" track I heard on Femme Fatale this week is hott!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

try me, steve.

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
tim, this thread was a long time agho, so if you havent heard it, heres the terra danjah mix of ready she ready i wasnt that into though....

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

and "Lately" has made vinyl. check www.rhythmdivision.co.uk and www.dubplate.net

martin (martin), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"Lately" is also called "What have you done" btw

martin (martin), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"What Have U Done" is one of the top tunes of 2004. caught the Rhythm Division listing last weekend thankfully. 'wonder' if there's any left by now...?

not wanting to sidetrack/derail but:
anyone know the story behind Femme Fatale and 1XTRA parting company?

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it was because of the increasing overlap between the different grimey UKG DJs...

martin (martin), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

hope she's doing well - I enjoyed her bubbly, breathless enthusiasm!

plus she was one of the strongest supporters of Jon E Cash / Black Ops (like anyone could be more so than Cameo?) and it was good that a female DJ would champion tracks that have otherwise been dismissed outright as misogynistic. not saying they're not, but the situation is a bit more grey than would call for kneejerk reaction.

similar scenario to that found in dancehall, hip hop and with other hardcore scenes/artists. the question is how could you make extreme art if forced to include a disclaimer? the old 'never let on'.

but this is a big topic which occasionally pops up on ILM/ILE and I don't want to detract from the great tune this thread's about.

Wonder was Dizzee Rascal's DJ for recent U.S. tour (Dizzee voiced Wonder's "What" for his album) and between sets in New York we were treated to classics like (his own) "What Have U Done" plus "Cock Back", "Jenny" and "Leave Me Alone" over big P.A. (best part of the show). I was disappointed that Mike Skinner couldn't readily confirm/i.d. Wonder when I asked, but that was after the show so he may have been knackered / out of it.

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Mike's very on it with grime, he was miles ahead of the pack with Dizzee and co (and that would have been around the time when Wonder was in Roll Deep).

martin (martin), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha yes and the remix of "Let's Push Thing's Forward" still has some of the best raps non-Dizzee Roll Deep have ever come up with! I don't think Wiley's ever sounded as great as he did there.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure he's (Skinner) lots on his mind - we can only wonder what it feels like, he'd just then hit UK #1 for the first of many weeks.

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

my vinyl of "What Have You Done" just arrived !

alright now we need a next tune to lust after
wonder what it will be (already got "So Sure")
this time of year is when tings usually heat up

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

DEATH TO THE ANNOYING FEMME VOCAL HOOK (ESPECIALLY IF THEY CANT REALLY SING)

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I know what you mean but this is part of the charm - adds to the eerie aura. if you want propa vocals there's always Girls Aloud n Annie!

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

tsk. hook is the best thing about it; sounds like it was rcoreded in some abyssal mountain canyon with a sweet sticky heavyness that plays off kano's necessarily dull tired lonely flow and that achey riddim. wading thru wedding, and anyway it's basically vice versa part 2, except you could chart a year's cocky grime hopes traduced with this

prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(cameo is part of a black ops sideproject thing; he too thinks it's a grey area, in fact he thinks those tunes are some sort of deeper wiser comment on that sort of issue, incredibly. but yawn whichever way u slice it really)

prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 4 September 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

too good.

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

even better in person - tune of the year so far for me
this and "War Wid"

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 6 September 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

not a huge fan of kano doing the tired slurry flows... prefer him when hes all raring to go like on ice rink or take you out but this beat is classique

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 6 August 2007 02:19 (eighteen years ago)


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