Boomkat says: 'Jeez, this is good. I remember picking up "Scum", perhaps the best known Bark Psychosis release, when I was still in my teens working the xmas holidays at Virgin Megastore on the Totenham Court Road in London. At the time I couldn't quite believe what I was listening to - a 21 minute epic that seemed to be recorded in a warehouse, abstract found sounds seeping into a mix of incredily rich instrumentation and a quiet/loud ambience that must have preceeded its time by a good 5 years. Only Talk Talk employed a similarly opulent, brave, dense layering of textures - creating a sound that seemed to tower above anything else available to my eager ears. Since then, and we're talking a good 10 years or so, Graham Sutton veered off into the heady underworld of Drum & Bass (as a DJ and under his Boymerang alias), looking at the darkside fron an entirely different perspective. Hard to fathom, then, quite how he's managed to resurrect Bark Psychosis without a hint of desperation or uncertainty. Codename : Dustsucker is an incredible listen - a blend of everything he sparked off and all the slight generic revolutions that have taken place since. It's post-rock re-invented, electronica re-written, soundtrack music writ large and new - and without question one of the most astonishing records of the year. If you're into Talk Talk, Hood, Tortoise, The Remote Viewer, My Bloody Valentine, To Rococo Rot, or if you just want to hear life-changing music from one of the scene's greatest unknown operators - we implore you to check this out without delay. Magnificent.' (not that i take their opinion v seriously....)
― Robin Goad (rgoad), Monday, 26 July 2004 06:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 26 July 2004 06:42 (twenty-one years ago)
I'd say I'd write something about it when I've listened to it enough, but I'm crap at writing. Maybe I'll just give it a mark out of ten.
― Keith Watson (kmw), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)
"it’s easy to feel that ///Codename: Dustsucker doesn’t really exist"
That's a good way of putting it. I've been having to check myself. It's kind of like a new MBV record that's actually happened.
― Keith Watson (kmw), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 26 July 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 July 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― frankE (frankE), Monday, 26 July 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)
However, they don't sound anything like their name.
― Keith Watson (kmw), Monday, 26 July 2004 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― frankE (frankE), Monday, 26 July 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 26 July 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 July 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 26 July 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)
Having said that, I can't really even type either as I've knocked back a load of booze. I've decided I'm celebrating the release of the new LP by listening to it loads and drinking.
It's really great. That's probably the best rock journalism I can manage.
― Keith Watson (kmw), Monday, 26 July 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 26 July 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 26 July 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)
God this is so gorgeous, I can't believe it. It's spinning in my shitty kitchen Philips CD player for the second time now and I am already overwhelmed. It's moody, atmospheric stuff with some jazzy elements like a trumpet and piano. Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden isn't too far. Some weird electronic and not so electronic sounds but not too many. Rather dark than bright. Rather monochromic than black and white. Rather a maelstrom than a cataract. Music that draws the listener in and embraces him without asking him. There are beats but they are hardly danceable. I could bathe in this relaxing ocean of blue forever. Maybe my new favourite album of this year. Though it is definitely too premature for such a bold statement. And Riot on an Empty Street is a masterpiece almost impossible to best.
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)
if i didn't know german i'd really be intrigued by the two word lyrics of the last song called "rose". "traum" is one of those words in the german language which sound so fucking great when you don't know what they mean and which sound even greater when you do. this track is like a justification of the german language.
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 07:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)
I even submitted a review of it to Grooves for the next issue, hopefully they'll run it and some Yank electronica fans will latch onto it.
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)
Give me time.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)
for real? and i know Andy K has had a copy for almost a year. (-;
― echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)
here is the bp c or d thread with some more impressions of the album at the end.
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)
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Keith M -- I agree, it is not as good as "Hex". It is very different from "Hex", so maybe this is like comparing apples to oranges, but really, if I had to choose one over the other this very instant, I would unhesitatingly grab "Hex".
But that's a typical pattern for me -- preferring the fragile, under-produced first album of many bands in this genre to the "everything but the kitchen sink" production-crazy second album.
If you prefer Pale Saints' "Comforts of Madness" to their follow-up "In Ribbons", and if you prefer the Boo Radleys' "Everything's Alright Forever" to their folow-up "Giant Steps", then you've probably got the same tropism that I do!
I do really like the first part of "Dustsucker", and have been playing it over and over since I got the album, but I always seem to hit a musical roadbump after the song that makes me think of David Sylvian. Instead of letting the album finish, I back-space it and start the whole album over again. Something about those last few songs feels more like a fade then an ending. But maybe I'll warm up to them when I listen to them again -- if I can stop myself from starting over, that is!
― stripey, Friday, 27 August 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)
This post is about my misinterpretation of the lyrics of "400 Winters", which I briefly mentioned on the C/D thread ...
Here's the lyrics as printed on the booklet, which I'm assuming is the "authoritative version" -- even though it doesn't quite synch up with the singing in some parts :
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Loose rein. Let us rest Where words speak nor confess Always beside always besides For one another winding west we seek and grow apart Blood disappears where deeds begin you never stop nor start Turn out the silent glare turn out the silent stare 400 winters never count Sleep never rusts a final sign of things to come, you can not lay your hand upon it's only ever more it's only ever more ...
... And here what I _thought_ they were singing, which turns out to be very, very, very far off track, even though in an odd way, it makes as much sense as the words above do ...
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It's rain, let us rest ; We won't speak, nor confess.Always beside, always besides --Far from another blinding lust.We'll seek then grow apart ...
Let's wait, let us rest, Let's make no contact --Always beside, always besides --For one another, altough worldy-wise . We'll seek then grow apart ...
Thought disappears where it's begun --We'll never stop nor start.Don't have to sit and glare ;Don't have to sigh and stare.
400 winters never countAnd sleep never ends.If what inside are things to come.You can not lay your hand upon ...
It's only ever more.It's only ever more.
It's sunny ever more.... sunny ever more.
400 winters never count,If what inside are things to come.You can not lay your hand upon,If what inside are things to come.
It's only ever more ...It's sunny ever more ...
― stripey, Saturday, 28 August 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)
Now I've gone and scared everyone away :)
― stripey, Friday, 17 September 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)
i was euphorialistic when Dustsucker came out but it doesn't have lurking classic written all over it like Hex does
x-post - must get Independency+ i demand Hex to be reiussed! Jess H., what u say 'bout that?
― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)
― van der who (van smack), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)
― Popli Kid, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)
haven't seen this on a best of decade list yet, prob top 10 for me
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 11:04 (sixteen years ago)
Wait until all the best of decade lists are published.
― exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 11:18 (sixteen years ago)
New album in four years!
― The Marty Funkhouser Dance Machine (van smack), Friday, 18 June 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)
Heh.
― jaymc, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)
sb'd you for that
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)
New album in two years
― van smack, Thursday, 9 August 2012 04:45 (thirteen years ago)
Well you do play the long game.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 August 2012 04:52 (thirteen years ago)
Thought it was 'Game Over' though.Or was that just the early years compiled?
Could they do with a better comprehensive Che era compi? One that was more chronological, maybe going onto the next label too? Trying to think how long a Che compi would be. Just looked at discog on Rateyourmusic and should cover the 3rd Stone stuff too.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:00 (thirteen years ago)
Could they do with a better comprehensive Che era compi?
Wasn't that Independency?
― Tim F, Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)
Had just been talking about them last weekend since somebody who was part of the Claremont ave protest they were in was on the Solidarity Camp.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)
Looks like it was indeed Independency. Don't have that one, not sure you can still get it. I wound up with the 2 later compis cos I think it was difficult to get back at the beginning of the millennium.So maybe needs a reissue?
― Stevolende, Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)
Yes it does, it's excellent (as good as Hex).
― Tim F, Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:07 (thirteen years ago)
Graham is living in Buenos Aires at the moment, he appears to be pretty off the radar at the moment, but I think he is recording bands out there.
I wouldn't think there's any kind of reissues coming soon. He hasn't spoke kindly about Third Stone in the past and was pretty unhappy with Game Over.
― Ginger at the Gates of Dawn (MaresNest), Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)
spoken, duh
― Ginger at the Gates of Dawn (MaresNest), Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)
Think I was linking it with Disco Inferno who had a compi of somewhat similar stuff put out last year and A.R.Kane who have one coming in October. Assume it sold to the same people when first out. So might do well if released now. but maybe just wishful thinking anyway. can't afford the £21+ that it's going for on Amazon. Do have the other compis but would love that 3 piece era's material together.
SO people know where Graham is. Does anybody have any idea about John Ling who apparently pretty much disappeared, but may have just moved so no longer on radar of people I knew who used to see him in gig audiences.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 9 August 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)
Graham's a really nice chap, he packed up and moved to Argentina maybe a year ago or more to be with his g/f (it appears)
― Ginger at the Gates of Dawn (MaresNest), Thursday, 9 August 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)
Hex to be reissued!
http://www.normanrecords.com/records/117958-bark-psychosis-hex
― Barnaby, Hardly, Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:07 (thirteen years ago)
Is this going to be an official release or is this another bootleg reissue? Anyone know anything about Vinilissimo records?
― van smack, Thursday, 25 October 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)
Hmm . . . I'd like to replace my battered up record of this so I hope it's genuine.
Vinilisimo have released much though, recent titles include Television's 'Adventure' and Barrett's 'Madcap Laughs' so I think this is probably dubious. Will probably be CD sourced, which is fucking stupid and pointless.
― Internet Alan, Friday, 26 October 2012 08:55 (thirteen years ago)
Hmm. The jury is out.
http://www.discogs.com/label/Vinilisssimo
Tried to visit their website but got a malware warning.
― Barnaby, Hardly, Friday, 26 October 2012 09:36 (thirteen years ago)
Are people buying the Dustsucker album at these astronomical prices on discogs? $200-300 my goodness. Anyone know what ebay prices have been?
I'd consider dumping one of my lp's if that is what the going rate is.
― van smack, Sunday, 14 February 2016 17:21 (ten years ago)
the vinyl or the cd? I have two copies of the cd
I did look for bark psychosis vinyl recently and it wasn't pretty
― akm, Sunday, 14 February 2016 17:27 (ten years ago)
I mean the vinyl.
― van smack, Sunday, 14 February 2016 17:31 (ten years ago)
Have a look at http://www.popsike.com, which archives ebay sales.
It appears to have sold for £80 in November and $97 in May.
― Barnaby, Hardly, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 11:54 (ten years ago)