― thesplooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 08:54 (twenty years ago)
― Maneating Leopards of India (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 08:57 (twenty years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 09:10 (twenty years ago)
Life imitating Stella Street.
― Bob Six (bobbysix), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 09:10 (twenty years ago)
― dave amos, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 09:17 (twenty years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 09:19 (twenty years ago)
― persecution_smith, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 09:48 (twenty years ago)
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 09:59 (twenty years ago)
― Bob Six (bobbysix), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 10:48 (twenty years ago)
The Correct Answer:
His horribly mannered faux bloozeman crap on You Gotta Move (or "You gotta mow-mooww-moowooo--ow-ve!")
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:01 (twenty years ago)
that said, when mick dismisses that great tina turner performance in gimme shelter by saying, real derisively, "yeah... its nice to have a chick sometimes..." is possibly my favorite moment in that movie.
― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago)
― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:22 (twenty years ago)
"Emotional Rescue": The Curtis Mayfield impression at the start of the song is quite silly; but the Eric Burdon parody at the end is kinda amusing. Assuming it IS a parody. Isn't it?
"Ruby Tuesday" is okay except for the word "from" in the very first line. A laughably failed attempt to hit a really low note. But at least Richard Meltzer got some use out of it, citing it as a prime example of what he called an "unknown tongue" in his comedy triumph The Aesthetics Of Rock.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago)
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago)
― drew, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:22 (twenty years ago)
really? i don't hear it that way...sounds like a bad, somewhat condescending attempt at "authentic blues"
Great Jagger Hamming it up: "Miss You" esp. the talking rap gibberish in the middle....
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:24 (twenty years ago)
― thesplooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:33 (twenty years ago)
but the distance--measured in different subtle ways-- between the stones and their blues idols was practically the subject of their records of that era. no, he's definitely "hamming it up" (exaggerating certain aspects of the country blues style) but not in a parodic way, and only lightly ironic. listen to the way the slide guitar follows the vocal (or vice-versa).
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:37 (twenty years ago)
― drew, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:43 (twenty years ago)
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago)
― drew, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:12 (twenty years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:25 (twenty years ago)
― thesplooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago)
- "State of Shock" w/ the Jacksons
― MC Frosty Flake, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:05 (twenty years ago)
― LA75 (LA75), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:14 (twenty years ago)
Myself, I like "I Got to Move" a lot, I think it's a great performance. I mean isn't there a good bit of self-parody already in that Beale Street blues stuff? I think blues needs more of this kind of vocal.
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago)
― David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 00:58 (twenty years ago)
― Rock Bastard, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 01:24 (twenty years ago)
xpost
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 01:29 (twenty years ago)
What's his best vocal performance?
― if thou gaz long into the coombs, the coombs will also gaz into thee (WilliamC), Saturday, 6 February 2016 19:58 (nine years ago)
"Jigsaw Puzzle"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 6 February 2016 20:16 (nine years ago)
He consistently sounds like he is vomiting while singing.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 6 February 2016 20:17 (nine years ago)
"Almost Hear You Sigh"
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 6 February 2016 20:22 (nine years ago)
I've been spending a fair amt of drive time lately with the Singles Collection/London Years and coming to the opinion that he's much more about bravado/bluffing/selling the performance than about actual vocal skill. Am I wrong? Is that a "no shit sherlock" opinion to finally reach? Is "what is his best vocal performance" even a worthwhile question?
― if thou gaz long into the coombs, the coombs will also gaz into thee (WilliamC), Saturday, 6 February 2016 21:14 (nine years ago)
Angie.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 February 2016 21:16 (nine years ago)
angielet's spend the night togetherunder my thumb
i think he's at his best when he does the hollering thing (rip this joint, let's spend the night together). so many of my favorite stones vocal moments are when mick and keith sing together, though.
― lute bro (brimstead), Saturday, 6 February 2016 21:26 (nine years ago)
is any of mick's solo work worthwhile?
― lute bro (brimstead), Saturday, 6 February 2016 21:27 (nine years ago)
I love "Throwaway."
He wrote and sang several good songs on Wandering Spirit.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 February 2016 21:29 (nine years ago)
he's much more about bravado/bluffing/selling the performance than about actual vocal skill.
This definitely seems to be the case in live performance. While the studio "Rip This Joint" is one of his great performances, he did little more than lazily shout roughly in the vicinity of the key when singing it live (and they played it in a lower key live; presumably, he didn't want to/couldn't sing at the top of his range every night).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 6 February 2016 21:53 (nine years ago)
Yes, it's the no shit sherlock opinion. Mick is basically the best ever. Miss You, Brown Sugar, Moonlight Mile, Let's Spend the Night Together, Under My Thumb, Play With Fire, Heart of Stone, Out of Time...
Yes, he makes fun and respects no one or anything. It's the voice of irreverence and it was glorious for like ten years straight at least.
― simmel, Saturday, 6 February 2016 22:31 (nine years ago)
Anything where he says the word "Hot."
― pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Sunday, 7 February 2016 04:15 (nine years ago)
i love the end of "all down the line" where he's yelping away as if to physically drag the song back up from the fade.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:57 (nine years ago)
I love Jagger but he's clearly a very average (not to say bad) singer. but a great, exciting and fun performer !this reminds me of a story from the sessions when MJ and... MJ recorded "state of shock" together. if I remember correctly, Jackson was shocked (!) to see how limited a singer Jagger was in the studio and wondering "how did this guy become such a famous singer !" (not sure of the exact quote !)
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 8 February 2016 09:48 (nine years ago)
That's a very different sort of understanding of a good singer. Jackson is a freak who can't emote to save his life. This in itself is sometimes powerful but it's certainly not due to his "range" or something like that. I mean, every reality show contestant these days has a "better voice" than Jagger. Doesn't make any of them better singers. The whole premise of this thread only makes sense if you acknowledge that Jagger is an all time great. His "worst" vocal performances are notable for a reason (they are the exceptions).
― simmel, Monday, 8 February 2016 10:05 (nine years ago)
oh I totally agree that Jagger is a great frontman with a very personal(and great) way of singing (but I disagree about Jackson not being able to emote...).
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 8 February 2016 10:18 (nine years ago)
Jackson can emote, but it is "from a book" (see "She's out of my life')
Jagger's singing on "State of Shock" is pretty bad, straining for the notes, etc.
Would not like to hear Michael Jackson singing "Memo from Turner" (Oh, OK, maybe just once)
― Mark G, Monday, 8 February 2016 10:32 (nine years ago)
as for "from a book", what do you mean ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 8 February 2016 10:53 (nine years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5035TY5RSpg
― Mark G, Monday, 8 February 2016 14:03 (nine years ago)
I do too but it's broader than "Dead Flowers."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:09 (nine years ago)
I love everything about "Dead Flowers" except the vocal. I can't stand the golly gee whiz gulping frog accent Jagger tries to pull in the open lines. he's more affecting on the chorus, but the verses remain ghastly.
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:13 (nine years ago)
jagger reminds me of nigel tufnel there
― nomar, Monday, 8 February 2016 17:14 (nine years ago)
"Jackson is a freak who can't emote to save his life."
what about human nature? liberian girl? people always wheel out shes out of my life in these discussions. MJ might not be able to emote like marvin gaye but hes not some broadway ham.
― StillAdvance, Monday, 8 February 2016 17:17 (nine years ago)
I love "Dead Flowers" and "Dear Doctor," so I enjoy Mick's fake country voice sometimes, but the vocal on "Far Away Eyes" feels too self-consciously parodic while also seeming lazy ... it's the spoken lines that ruin it for me; it's like he can't be bothered to maintain a consistent fake country accent for the duration of the song
now that I think about it, I hate the fake reggae vocal on "Cherry Oh Baby" even more
― Brad C., Monday, 8 February 2016 17:32 (nine years ago)
I love 'the way you make me feel' by Jackson. Opening lines are about him working a job 9 to 5 as if he ever had a normal day job in his life.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:41 (nine years ago)
why are we talking about fucking Michael Jackson on this thread
― Οὖτις, Monday, 8 February 2016 17:44 (nine years ago)
uh no one here is attracted to him.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:47 (nine years ago)
Because Jackson said Jagger was a limited singer.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)
I'm assuming Jagger had a relatively normal childhood, he learned how to be emphatic to others, he has bandmates, he's social, so social he fucked half the people he met in his twenties. He acts emotion on his performances either through experience or emphaty.
Jackson didn't have too much experience with the real world, he never left the spotlight. The only way he knew how to connect to people was thru performance, there's no genuine experience or emphaty on what he sings but he does get emotional when performing.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:55 (nine years ago)
That's true. xxxp Human Nature is a beautiful song but not because of Michael. He seems to be baffled by this human nature. Guys like D'Angelo and Hayden Thorpe can pull of the sort of threatening falsetto that would make those "apple, let me take a bite" lines land way better. Michael doesn't have it in him.
― simmel, Monday, 8 February 2016 18:07 (nine years ago)
i wouldnt really use their backgrounds/backstories to justify an opinion on their apparent deficiencies as emoters. but im happy to leave it there as this is about the great vocalist that is sir mick.
― StillAdvance, Monday, 8 February 2016 18:08 (nine years ago)
i believe we had this same conversation about "raspberry beret"
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 8 February 2016 18:10 (nine years ago)
pop music is all about making the inauthentic feel/sound authentic
― StillAdvance, Monday, 8 February 2016 18:27 (nine years ago)
projection will get you everywhere
I don't remember having that conversation, Brad, but it's also my favorite Prince song. Prince feels more tongue in cheek with the theme though
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 18:27 (nine years ago)
StillAdvance it won't if it doesn't. Michael can't act like a sexual being and Mick can't be a good ol' boy. The best actors are those that have a certain range of roles they are comfortable in. Fuck that method actor versatility imo.
― simmel, Monday, 8 February 2016 18:40 (nine years ago)
I don't mind Jagger's fake country voice, at the very least I find it laugh-out-loud hilarious, particularly on 'Far Away Eyes' and 'Let It Bleed' ("we awl need... somewown... we can llllean own!") - it's usually his falsetto that really rubs me up the wrong way, particularly on 'Emotional Rescue' (although I don't mind it on 'Heaven')
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Monday, 8 February 2016 21:03 (nine years ago)
I'm not a fan of Emotional Rescue but his falsetto is brilliant on Miss You and I Just Want To See His Face and I'm sure I'm forgetting something major.
― simmel, Monday, 8 February 2016 22:00 (nine years ago)
I love "Heaven.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:03 (nine years ago)
"fool to cry" -- i kinda like that one, even though it is a little embarrassing
― tylerw, Monday, 8 February 2016 22:05 (nine years ago)
I love "Heaven.― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, February 8, 2016 10:03 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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It's one of the most underrated Stones tracks ever, IMO.
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:09 (nine years ago)
and it's barely a Stones track: Wyman on synth and bass, Charlie, Jagger on guitar.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:09 (nine years ago)
Yeah. Although there's shitloads of Stones tracks that have different combinations of personnel or someone playing an instrument in place of the "usual" band member (Keith playing bass on some tracks, Jimmy Miller playing drums etc.) - the Stones never really were a group where all members were present at all times on every track in the studio.
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:13 (nine years ago)
'Play With Fire', for example... Phil Spector plays bass on it!
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:14 (nine years ago)
"Too Much Blood" is Jagger w/Sly & Robbie and Jim Barber, Keef's guitar tech who was instructed to "play like Andy Summers...".
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:46 (nine years ago)
'orrible wasn't it
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:48 (nine years ago)
"...burying the bones..."
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:53 (nine years ago)
Let's Work
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 8 February 2016 22:59 (nine years ago)
"Far Away Eyes" currently playing on the radio made me seek out this thread.
― visiting, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 17:33 (two weeks ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cohCR3rUh0
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 April 2025 17:53 (two weeks ago)
i like him on "faraway eyes" — though I do wonder if there are outtakes where mick plays it more straight? He obviously did not think he could really do C&W style vocals without making it a joke.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 18:02 (two weeks ago)
It's mimicry, it is, it's parody...
- Mick Jagger, 1978
Mick feels the need to get into these caricatures. He's slightly vaudeville in his approach. Far Away Eyes is like that. He did it great every time except for the final take. It's good when he does it straight 'cause it's funny enough without doing a pantomime. It's the SOUND version of what he was doing wrong VISUALLY. When he sings it as a caricature it sounds like it would be great for a show. You expect Mick to walk out in his cowboy duds on an 18-wheeler set (laughs). Or sing it into his CB as part of his skit.
- Keith Richards, 1979
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 April 2025 18:21 (two weeks ago)
the other day i listened through the entirety of "It's Only Rock 'N' Roll" for the first time. i think "Luxury" is probably the worst Stones song I've ever heard and definitely a candidate for worst Jagger vocal performance. makes you cringe to the core
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 20:08 (two weeks ago)
9 years later it's still Let's Work for me. That song and Mick's vocal stink to high heaven.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 22:31 (two weeks ago)
I encourage you to listen to "Ruthless People" again.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 00:12 (two weeks ago)
You're all such lovely peopleDancing gaily round the floorBut if you have to fightPlease take your trouble out the doorFor now I say with sorrowUntil this time tomorrowWe'll bid you all a fond adieuOn with the show good health to you!
The way he sings "Tomorrow" to rhyme with "Adieu" - if he just left it it would have been fine, but "tomorrow-oooooooo" ?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 09:26 (two weeks ago)
whole "love you live" album
― foghat leghorn (doo rag), Friday, 25 April 2025 05:35 (one week ago)
whole "dirty work" album
― foghat leghorn (doo rag), Friday, 25 April 2025 05:36 (one week ago)
"Winning Ugly" and "Hold Back" are two of his best vocals.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 April 2025 09:18 (one week ago)
"Fight" is a terrible vocal, but it's made worse by Jagger deciding "the less time I spend on a Stones lyric the better it is, I'll save my inspiration for Primitive Cool".
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 25 April 2025 15:08 (one week ago)
That's not one of the album's good songs. The rest of the album, particularly the two I mentioned, have some of his most incisive lyrics -- he rarely tried so hard again.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 April 2025 15:12 (one week ago)
I'm an Undercover fan, but something happened between the two albums that what they had at their fingertips wasn't there anymore/
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 25 April 2025 15:14 (one week ago)
Mine, to quote the Empress Jadis, is a high and lonely destiny.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 April 2025 15:28 (one week ago)
You'll always have Xgau with you
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 25 April 2025 15:38 (one week ago)
Just listened to "Cherry Oh Baby" for the first time bcs of this thread and it's...not as bad as I was expecting, tbh. It could almost fit into Black Market Clash.
― fetter, Saturday, 26 April 2025 12:54 (one week ago)
i think "Luxury" is probably the worst Stones song I've ever heard and definitely a candidate for worst Jagger vocal performance. makes you cringe to the core
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 21:08 (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Jagger's vocal is more irritating here than Cherry Oh Baby (which I really enjoy). Lux-ya-REEEH. Thankfully at some point he stopped trying to do a 'reggae voice' for reggae songs.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 28 April 2025 13:36 (one week ago)
Left that to Sting.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Monday, 28 April 2025 13:44 (one week ago)
Hah, I love "Luxury," mostly for the song though - a cheeky song about exploitation which seems appropriate.
― birdistheword, Monday, 28 April 2025 20:28 (one week ago)
So what is up with his hyper articulated vocal affectation on "Mother's Little Helper"? The song itself is kind of a riff on the Kinks.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 19:28 (one week ago)