Is there any specific musical grace note that works better for you than anything else? or maybe specific examples from certain songs.
(I'm sure this has been covered endlessly, but my search function is being an arse this morning)
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Patrick South (Patrick South), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)
for me? in "I heard her call may name", when lou reed says and then my mind split open, and then there's a gush of feedback going into the solo
― autovac (autovac), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)
Also loud trumpets, ringy snare drums, Fender Rhodes, etc.
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― common_person (common_person), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― maria b (maria b), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― scg, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― drew, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)
all else:hyper-distorted lo pass staticitty bitty amps overloaded to the point of tone dissolvesaturated arpeggiation circa 12-15 fret on les paul neck pickup (esp. in early 90s post-hardcore sensibility)fender jaguar with loose tremolo signalled slightly out of phase with live signalrandom echoplex loop-doodlinglo 808 filtrationcheap electronics through heavy ring modulationmelodic javanese gamelanhardcore bands with >2 drummers
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)
OTMFnM! The other day I had a drunken vision of Lil Jon producing a new AC/DC album and seriously have not been able to shake the audio image from my mind's eye.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― phil turnbull (philT), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)
Aye, this is the "Digital Love"/"One More Time"/"Music Sounds Better With You" thing that Kylie's producers aped on "Love At First Sight"?
Can somebody give me some recommendations of very similar tracks to these?
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― darin, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)
Steve Albini's drum sound.
Drum machines, especially the high hats.
Spiky-sounding hardcore punk guitars.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 29 July 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)
i'm also partial to chattering 808 and 909 hihats. see david caretta's remix of "moskow reise" for a good recent example.
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 29 July 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― jake b. (cerybut), Thursday, 29 July 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 29 July 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)
Well I was trying to be as particular as possible to avoid pulling a nickalicious of synth patches, you know, my list is kind of a "best of"
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 29 July 2004 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― tylero (tylero), Thursday, 29 July 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 29 July 2004 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 29 July 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)
my alltime favorite is very fast relatively clean electric guitar stums as best practiced by late period Unrest (runners up, The Velvet Underground songs that do this specifically on Live 1969, early period Wedding Present - some Urinals songs also qualify and have the added bonus of horrible equipment and recording techniques).
also dudes singing inna sissy high/falsetto voice so that I can sing along in a similar fashion also practiced by Unrest (runner up here is Big Star - again some Urinals songs weirdly qualify, sort of).
― artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 29 July 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Careful with that Almanac Eugene (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 29 July 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Less specifically: handclaps of any sort.
― Talent Explosion, Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)
There's plenty of apparent hard-rockers on The Who Sing My Generation that mostly rely on Nicky Hopkins' piano and have virtually zero guitar presence.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)
Heheheh... I know what you mean, gygax, but I feel the need to be a gearheady guitar player and come forward to point out that Champs don't have reverb.
Best sounds ever for me:
- The blast of clattery noise when an amp with a spring reverb tank gets kicked (search a lot of Ventures & other surf bands, the beginning of Pixies cover of "Cecilia Ann," etc.)
- Nasty overdrive that comes out of nowhere in an otherwise clean guitar sound, not because someone stomped on a switch but because the player's controlled enough to keep his or her touch light until it's time to dig the strings with the amp turned way up.
- Thickass flange on a guitar when it's only there for a couple measures, like the way Eddie uses the MXR in "Mean Streets."
- The Roland Funnycat or Ross Distortion-Phaser when played by someone who can control thickly phased fuzz.
- Simple, incredibly well-controlled, infinitely sustained lead guitar parts. (Or... Joey Santiago on a Les Paul.)
- In ascending order of preference: armies of synth strings, really big real string sections, mellotron(s). (Note I included my affinity for strings because it's true and so everyone doesn't think that I only like testosterone-laden guitar noises.)
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)
haha, why i wrote "champ" when i met "twin" is far beyond my knowledge but probably as my collection of shitty champs throughout my life has scarred their name into my brane.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)
*the piano pad patch on the Alesis QS8.1 on the third GM settings bank, run through a Russian reissue Big Muff Pi with the distortion at a quarter turn and the tone all the way to the left
*the 'juicy funk' patch (bank B, patch 8) on the Roland JX3P, with just a little wussy-ass compression (a la Digitech Comp/Sustain geetar pedal), run through a Hartke amp head with the sub frequencies cranked
*etc.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 29 July 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)
Heheheh. I held off making the comment about it having to be a Vibro-Champ to have tremolo too, but the Twin explanation very much clears it up, and I definitely agree with you except that I'd weight the Jaguar waaaaay above the sound of a Jazzmaster in that context. You gotta rock the fat single coils when you are drenching it all in spring reverb, natch.
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)
Things I like include:
Univibe pedals, like Hendrix used @ Woodstock & elsewhere in '69.Bagpipes - can't get enough of 'em! The shenai (or whatever it is the Master Musicians of Joujouka play) is equally strident & pleasantDouble Drumming - Just mention that a band has two sets of traps & I'm instantly curious (tho I've never completely warmed to the Dead or the Doobies)Random electronic/synth noise, like Eno/DikMik/Ping Romany used to play. Theremin, oscillators and all that sorta junk that I wouldn't have a clue how to operate, other than the ON/OFF switch.There's no such thing as "too much wah-wah"
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 29 July 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Thursday, 29 July 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)
Terry Riley's (Rhodes?) keyboard sound.
Tamboura drones, anywhere, any time.
Moog bleeps, bloops, gurgles.
Larry Young's organ sound in Love Cry Want.
Miles' electrified muted trumpet.
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Thursday, 29 July 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)
Dissonance.
Alice Coltrane's harp.
Birdsong, either sampled or notated a la Messiaen's Catalogue d' Oiseaux.
The harpsichord. Listen to Ligeti's "Continuum."
Autechre's high-pitched tones.
Minor keys, esp. in the piano.
The Asian Pentatonic Scale.
Vocal choirs. Talk Talk's "I Believe In You," Nono's "Prometheo," Phillip Glass's "Knee 3." The banjo.
Thom Yorke's voice.
The textures in Radiohead's Amnesiac.
Eerieness. A la Penderecki.
Pastoral folk. Vashti Bunyan.
And I could go on and on.
― Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Thursday, 29 July 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mil (Mil), Thursday, 29 July 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Chris O'Connor (Chris O'Connor), Thursday, 29 July 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 29 July 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)
Electronically processed vocals a la Diamanda Galas and Britney Spears.
Tamboura drones (seconded, *knowing winks at Dave Segal*), listen to Alice Coltrane's use of them.
Hrvatski's exquisite programming choices.
Violin drones a la improv. Takehisa Kosugi / microtonal / indian Tony Conrad (hear: Four Violins)
Henry Flynt's drones. (You're My Everlovin')
The Books, the whole organic folk / field recordings pastiche.
The sound of swirling violins. Hear Messiaen's Turangalila Symphonie.
VIOLENCE a la Les Rallizes Denudes and Koenji Hyakkei.
Evocative electronics or field recordings interrupting folk songs, a la Extradition's Hush record, Linda Perhacs' demo version of "Chimacum Rain."
― Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― jess, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Subtle melody changes, like 3:09 to 3:10 in Autechre's "Rae"... And 1:28-1:32 in "Like Spinning Plates" by Radiohead.
― Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 30 July 2004 04:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― jess, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― OleM (OleM), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marc roy steinstien, Monday, 22 May 2006 05:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Russo P Jewitt, Monday, 22 May 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)
i like high pitched magical sounding synths
― janice (surm), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 04:35 (fifteen years ago)
Whenever a guitar snarls like a cougar/jaguar/whatever. Fucking badass, i love it.
You here it a lot in between verses in this song from MBVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVj-fc1M_D0
― oohhh weennnddddyyy weennnddyy what went wrrrooonnnnggg (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 05:07 (fifteen years ago)
also i just really dig sensual female voices that don't belt, but soothe. on that contrary, i hate all female vocalists who are known for their voices soley (amy winehouse, duffy, etc, etc, etc)
something very arousing to me about sleepy girls who just mumble things... here's another example!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ZSyGadDcc
or i guess i just really dig shoegaze. doesnt take too much thinking to realize i don't dig ride/chapterhouse/male-dominated shoegaze bands at all.
― oohhh weennnddddyyy weennnddyy what went wrrrooonnnnggg (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 05:10 (fifteen years ago)
handclaps of any sort.
― Talent Explosion, Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:31 PM
otm
― 156, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 05:28 (fifteen years ago)