best-ofs and boxed sets where the artist's best-known song is replaced by an alternate version ...

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... thus almost blowing the boxed set!

1. Madness, "The Business" ("Our House" is represented by the crappy "stretch mix")
2. Echo and the Bunnymen, "Crystal Days" (inferior 12" version of "The Killing Moon")
3. Stevie Nicks, "Enchanted" (a live version of "Edge of Seventeen")

Let's think of more!

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure the Who boxed set has a bunch of instances of this.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a best of the Specials knocking about that DOESN'T HAVE GOST TOWN ON IT!

Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

The Who are hecka-guilty of this.

The `Stones compilation, Jump Back serves up a neutered rendition of "Miss You" (and probably a few other tracks).

The Rough Trade re-release of If I Die, I Die.. by the Virgin Prunes jettisons the original recording of "Baby Turns Blue" in favor of an unlistenable 'dance mix' (oh wait, that's not a best-of or box set, sorry).

There's a Fixx compilation which only boasts live renditions of the key tracks off of Shuttered Room.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The Police's Every Breath You Take had the awful "Don't Stand So Close To Me '86," which was matched in its awfulness only by the new video, starring the Revolving, Video Toastered Police.

phil dennison, Friday, 30 July 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man, don't remind me of that 'Stretch Mix'...

Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not exactly bad, but Kate Bush was apparently sufficiently embarrassed by her 17 year-old self's delivery of 'Wuthering Heights' to replace the original with a rerecorded vocal on The Whole Story.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

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Granted, it's not necessarily a "best of," but it LACKS "Eighties" entirely and staples on various "unreleased mixes" of various other tracks just to sucker in frothing completists like m'self. Bastids.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it just me or are the Who the worst compiled and reissued "classic" band ever? That most of the remasters don't have the singles appended as bonus tracks, thus requiring you to buy a crappy comp with a bunch of redundant tracks and even WORSE awful 70s and 80s Who on it!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

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Skynyrd's Innyrds!! It has an "alternate recording" of "Free Bird". Lame! But it was also the first appearance of the previously unreleased "Truck Drivin' Man", so yay!

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

my best of bill withers has unlistenable reworkings (by ben liebrand if i -ugh- remember rightly) of aint no sunshine and lovely day.

gaz (gaz), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Peel Slowly & See, right? they re-added the days of wine & roses bit to Rock & Roll. best known song is debatable.

autovac (autovac), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I think somehow I have about three Kinks best-ofs, none of which have /anything/ from Village Green Preservation Society...

caspar (caspar), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a New Order one w/ Blue Monday '88 instead of the orig. one?

Sasha (sgh), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

they re-added the days of wine & roses bit to Rock & Roll. best known song is debatable.

that's from "Sweet Jane". But that doesn't ruin the set at all.

King Kobra (King Kobra), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a New Order one w/ Blue Monday '88 instead of the orig. one?

The Best Of New Order:

True Faith-94
Bizarre Love Triangle-94
1963-94
Regret
Fine Time
The Perfect Kiss
Shellshock
Thieves Like Us
Vanishing Point
Run 2
Round & Round-94
World (The Price of Love)
Ruined In A Day
Touched By The Hand of God
Blue Monday 1988
World In Motion

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 30 July 2004 06:03 (twenty-one years ago)

The Chronicle series for James Brown, it takes seriously considered effort to release what is in effect a 7CD boxset and still only have a live version of Mother Popcorn available.

Still better than Startime

Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 30 July 2004 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

If 'Jump Back' does the same thing 'Forty Licks' does, it subs in the seven-inch (3.31) version of "Miss You" rather than the album version or the "disco mix."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 30 July 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there any New Order compilation with the original version of "Temptation"?

Also, the "wine and roses" bit was added to the "Loaded" reissue not the box set I believe..

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 30 July 2004 07:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Styx re-recorded "Lady" for their fine (tho not definitive) '95 best-of; too bad the singing wasn't as good as the original, but otherwise it's impressively faithful to the 20-yrs earlier original. Incidentally, reverting to the original and making a few other substitutions would result in said Best-Of emerging as the perfect compilation and probably the only Styx release you'd ever need.

Anybody remember Lynyrd Skynyrd's old "Gold And Platinum" collection? It had nothing at all (not "Freebird", even) from their first LP, substituting live versions of the best-known ones. And I've always wondered: why is that? If their first LP was on a different label that refused them use of the originals (as RCA did with Styx) it would be understandable. But ALL of Skynyrd's LPs, including the debut, were on MCA so WTF?

Foreigner's "Records" substitues a live "Hot Blooded." David Bowie's "Changesbowie" has a remixed "Fame". The Police recorded a brand-new version of (I think) "Don't Stand So Close To Me" for their hits collectioni. And all those comps (in theory & in pracice) SUCK SUCK SUCK! I wish to praise compilations that have absolutely NOTHING new on 'em: No brand new songs, no remixes/alternate takes, no non-LP singles, nothing. Moderate fans can happily buy them; and HUGE fans can happily ignore 'em, and not be grudgingly forced to pay a lot for one or two otherwise unavailable tracks. All those rarities should be given their very own collection.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The Pulp one, then? All the 'single' versions, and one new track that really should have been a single but wasn't. Man, if they'd included a b-side compilation as a second CD, it would have been huge. But it didn't and so it wasn't.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

jedmond - the chronicle series - these 7CDs - exatly which ones are they, the Foundations Of Funk comps from a few years back? Not got Startime yet, got LOTS of 1960s/1970s James Brown though, wondering if i *need* it (beyond boxset fetishism)

stevie (stevie), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

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cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:40 (twenty-one years ago)

'Sex, America, Cheap Trick' has two instances:

A massively superior version of "I Want You To Want Me" and an alternate version of "If You Want My Love" with an extra bridge.

Beats all the upthread cases where a worse version appears.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The Best Of New Order
... a better example is "Substance" -- take your pick of re-recordings/remixes : Confusion, Temptation, Ceremony, Bizarre Love Triangle.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)

hows about htose cheapie compilation sets you see and you look at the credits and theres a little asterix says "performed by a reconstituted band" or somesuch nonsense seems to happen with motown etc.

gaz (gaz), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"hows about htose cheapie compilation sets you see and you look at the credits and theres a little asterix says "performed by a reconstituted band" or somesuch nonsense seems to happen with motown etc".

mmmh, i like those comps...we sell lots of that stuff in the store. and I feel like a small criminal everytime it happens.

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)

madonnas immaculate collection. most of the like a prayer songs were remixed.

thesplooge (thesplooge), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

marco: are any of the new versions betterthan the old vers?

gaz (gaz), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The X compilation "Beyond and Back" has a couple of these, and it's not always a bad thing -- the version of "I Must Not Think Back Thoughts" on the comp doesn't fade out, and it's 1000x better for this.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Immaculate Collection is the worst fucking excuse for a greatest-hits record ever.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 30 July 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I doubt it's the "best known song", but on Collection of Great Dance Songs by Pink Floyd has a redone version of "Money". Now that I think aboot it, the version of "Another Brick in the Wall" on that collection is a different take than the album version, as it has a longer intro.

Vic Funk, Friday, 30 July 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

the colourbox compilation CD is such a great example of this i didn't buy it.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I got hosed on a Badfinger compilation that Virgin was hawking late last year in its megastores: although it didn't say so on the exterior packaging, all the songs had been re-recorded by what I gathered to be a group of homeless men, one of whom may have been in the band at some point in history. Wretched, vile recordings with no vocal acuity whatsoever.

Joseph McCombs, Friday, 30 July 2004 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

my brother, after i introduced him to the joy of astrid gilberto, bought a best of cd by her in florida, and was aghast at the disco cheese version of girl from ipanema. so was I. There are many horrors on that cd as well. brrr.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I bought a "best of the Three Degrees" and it had that "rerecorded/reconstituted" bullshit. And the "reunited" band ruin every track with loads of awkward late 80s production. I bought it off Spun.com and couldn't really return it, but oh man it's the first cd I've ever actually thrown into the garbage can.

Horrible. And completely annoying.

rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The Everly Brothers' Greatest Hits is a notorious offender, and a lot of subsequent comps feature the bad Warner Brothers re-recordings, too. Caveat Emptor.

But what about "Sinatra's Sinatra" on Reprise? More hooray than boo, I say.

briania (briania), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

cinniblount OTM

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The Who has a billion poorly-thought comps but do they really have some with re-recorded/alternate versions of songs? I didn't know they had alternate versions of their singles, unless you're just talking live versions, and do those really wind up on greatest hits albums?

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a Neil Diamond CD box thingy which has loads of live versions of classic early stuff - I imagine for contractual reasons - not that the live versions ain't good...

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

thing is - ythose boxes have stuff on that you can't get anywhere but p2p

gaz (gaz), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the original Temptation is on the Retro box set.

The Who replaced many of the early tracks (eg. Substitute) with live versions because of the Shel Talmy dispute. It's OK though, because you can tell Roger Daltrey's doing his 'marching up and down' dance.

The new Lou Reed 1 CD NYC Man has remixes at the end. I don't know if they replace the originals though.

The Supremes box set replaces quite a few famous tracks.

I think the Jimi Hendrix box set contains nothing but.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

little known fact : new order's best of with 'run 2' allegedly on it, does not in fact contain 'run 2' or anything like it. it's actually 'run'.

they screwed up the tracklist at (the) factory.

piscesboy, Friday, 30 July 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i have the run 2 single and that's always puzzled me cos it's defeinitely not it

rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

There's an Altered Images Best Of that uses lots of 12" dance mixes rather than the more familiar 7" mixes of the singles. 'I Could Be Hap-Hap-Hap-Happy'. it's like clare's developed a stutter.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The seven inch is on there too, isn't it?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The Supremes box set replaces quite a few famous tracks.

Yeah, but within the confines of a box set i think that's okay. I mean, if you bought the box, chnces are you have a greatest hits already, and are looking to go *deeper*...

Worse offenders are the Ultimate Collection series they did in 1998, which substituted odd remixes and alternate takes for no reason i could adequetly understand (though they all sounded pretty good).

stevie (stevie), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Louder Than Bombs: Inferior versions of "Stretch Out and Wait" and "These Things Take Time".

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

jelmond: ANSWER ME!

stevie (stevie), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I read in Newsweek or something similar that, instead of releasing the original tapes, Brian Wilson is re-recording all the tracks for the Smile boxed set that's supposed to come out in September. I submit that, even without having heard it, "Good Vibrations" will be the worst remake ever.

jedidiah (jedidiah), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Dud!

(What? Isn't this a C/D thread? ;) )

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 30 July 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Why does every Smiths CD have a different version of "Ask"??

Maxwell von Bismarck (maxwell von bismarck), Sunday, 1 August 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Louder Than Bombs: Inferior versions of "Stretch Out and Wait" and "These Things Take Time".

'Stretch Out and Wait' is the original B-side version, no? It was The World Won't Listen that provided a new alternate version, which I agree is slightly nicer.

Similarly with 'These Things Take Time' - the version there is the original studio version as found on the B-side of 'What Difference Does It Make'. The one on Hatful Of Hollow is the Peel Session.

Why does every Smiths CD have a different version of "Ask"??

I didn't know this, but I haven't got any of the WEA compilations. How are they different?

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 1 August 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Who has a billion poorly-thought comps but do they really have some with re-recorded/alternate versions of songs? I didn't know they had alternate versions of their singles, unless you're just talking live versions, and do those really wind up on greatest hits albums"

Thirty Years of Maximim R&B has live versions of "Substitute" and "See Me Feel Me" and edits of "Seeker", "Who Are You" and a couple of other tracks. It has a LOT of problems beyond these too if I remember correctly, but these leap out from the tracklist.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 1 August 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a Happy Mondays best-of that I got in the mid-'90s, which is pretty good except for a HORRIBLE remix of "Kinky Afro".

Shady Loch Lenin (haitch), Sunday, 1 August 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

The Sisters of Mercy's A Slight Case of Overbombing - "Temple of Love 1992" (this is superior to the original)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 1 August 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Then there's the little heard "Alice (1993)" which is also pretty damned good.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The Prodigy - Experience is basically a greatest hits album and has alternate (inferior) versions of the singles Fire, Everybody In The Place, Charly and Wind It Up, and lacks G-Force, Android and We Are The Ruffest.

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

that Wire comp of stuff from the first 3 records starts off with a live version of "12XU"

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

B-b-b-but Siegbran the Expanded edition of Experience rectifies almost all of those problems!!!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 1 August 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

There's an expanded version?

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 1 August 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit there is!

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 1 August 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

And then there's Eric Carr's new vocals on "Beth", released on some KISS Greatest Hits compilation about fifteen years ago. It wasn't Kiss' best-known song, but it was certainly Peter Criss'.

And "Don't Stand So Close to Me '86" to thread, to thread, to thread.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 1 August 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Well at least the Police have the excuse that they were originally re-record everything. A dubious excuse, perhaps, but...

On a related note, I was so pissed when Husker Du's live compilation came out with no "Makes No Sense At All". The liner notes came up with some pathetic excuse (a la "oh, this was the way the band really was, and isn't this oh so interesting?").

Joshua Houk (chascarrillo), Monday, 2 August 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

orbital, "satan" (used the awful spawn soundtrack w/ the metallica-turd instead of the wonderful green album version)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 2 August 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

the beach boys endless summer from the 70s has the album version of "help me rhonda" rather than the superior single version.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Monday, 2 August 2004 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

War's "Low Rider" is easily my choice...or it WOULD be, if only that little 12-note riff was actually a horn; but I think it's only harmonica with an echo. (I THINK.)

So instead, I'll praise Sam and Dave's "Hold On,,,I'm a-Comin" for its beautifully simplicity and James Brown's supertight "Mother Popcorn".

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 2 August 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

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Uh, SORRY about that...I should've posted that to the "Best Horn Riff" thread. Whatever WAS I thinking?!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 2 August 2004 06:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I love it when that happens. I sat here for a second trying to remember two different versions of "Low Rider". "A harmonica?" I asked myself...

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)


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