Bjork - Medulla

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My Underwear Is Melting (My Underwear Is Melting), Saturday, 31 July 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago)

I've been searching on Soulseek for weeks and everyone only has "Triumph Of A Heart" and "Desired Constellation" which are pretty meh. And those retarded glitchy web clips, but those don't count.

Sansai, Saturday, 31 July 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago)

From Amazon

Bjork is one of the most recognized stars in the world. She has sold millions of copies of her groundbreaking albums, she is an icon of cutting edge style, and she has received worldwide acclaim as an actress. Medulla, Bjork's first new studio album in three years, finds her delving deeper than ever before into her haunting and exhilarating sound and vision. Innovative as always, Bjork has this time built the songs on Medulla entirely from vocal tracks, with no instruments appearnig on the album, creating a soundscape unlike anything you've ever heard before. Special guests include Rahzel from The Roots, Mike Patton of Faith No More and Mr. Bungle, an Inuit throat singer, an Icelandic choir, the world's greatest human beatboxes and more

i don't know what to think about this

My Underwear Is Melting (My Underwear Is Melting), Saturday, 31 July 2004 22:26 (twenty years ago)

i can tell you what to think about this..

bjorkappella

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 31 July 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago)

damnit i can't find it anywhere on soulseek

My Underwear Is Melting (My Underwear Is Melting), Sunday, 1 August 2004 05:34 (twenty years ago)

me neither, all i've heard is the two songs previously mentioned, though i think "desired constellation" is quite beautiful ("triump" on the other hand reminds me of a radiohead b-side from amnesiac or hail to the thief - not a good thing).

Josh Love (screamapillar), Sunday, 1 August 2004 10:54 (twenty years ago)

it is underwhelming

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago)

(hey mark i saw yr book in my local cd store's very paltry lit section, hats off to yr distribution team!)(ps. have you been away from ilx or have i?)

m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I've dl'd a different version of "Triumph of the Heart" that has a bunch of bloopbleepery and shit. It's actually nice in a subdued kinda way, but I want MORE subdued, I want to hear this Bjorkapella.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:51 (twenty years ago)

yes, I was really looking forward to an actual a cappella record, but what I've heard so far has just been using voice as source material for pretty typically Bjork sounding electronic pop.

dleone (dleone), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago)

I like "The Pleasure is All Mine" and "Mouth's Cradle" so much more than anything I've heard from Björk in the past 7 years.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago)

"I like "The Pleasure is All Mine" and "Mouth's Cradle" so much more than anything I've heard from Björk in the past 7 years."

So... sharing is caring...

Sansai, Thursday, 5 August 2004 00:31 (twenty years ago)

I wish she'd do more stuff like Debut, you know

Also: "ew, mike patton"

Sonny A. (Keiko), Thursday, 5 August 2004 00:50 (twenty years ago)

Have you guys heard the Jad Fair mp3 album where he does this with the all-vocal backing tracks? It's batshit insane and free on his website:

Sunshiney Sunshine: A free album by Jad Fair

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 5 August 2004 01:08 (twenty years ago)

i don't know what to think about this

Think how fortunate you are that you found what you wanted on allmusic.com

Which Describes How You're Feeling All the Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 5 August 2004 01:15 (twenty years ago)

Or Amazon, as it were.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 5 August 2004 01:17 (twenty years ago)

Agreed with Melissa, disagreeing with dleone. Still hoping "Triumph of the Heart" is some remix of sorts. It's not BAD, by any means, but I don't get any emotion from it.

In fact, from what I've heard, THIS is how the hideous Vespertine should have sounded like, considering the concept Bjork was going for. Anyhow, marked improvement over that.

"Pleasure is all mine" is an instant favorite.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Thursday, 5 August 2004 02:11 (twenty years ago)

Can't find "Please Is All Mine" yet, but "Where Is The Line" (definitely a studio version) is quite good. Great percussion, cool oriental harp, and at the end Rahzel butts in: "Yo, Pete (wacky beatboxing)! Yo, Pete, (wacky beatboxing) there's a girl on the phone!"

Sansai, Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Actually, the song she's playing (sampling?) is a traditional Celtic piece called "Women of Ireland". I like the second half of "Where is the Line", but the first half doesn't do anything for me. Just sits there, and I guess I've heard that Celtic melody too much to pretend Bjork is being clever.

dleone (dleone), Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Dear me... Melissa, I understand how you felt about Vespertine now, because I don't like this new stuff atm.. though because it's Bjork the overwhelming urge is to assume that the rest of the album will be great...

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:35 (twenty years ago)

This album is out on my birthday. I'm going to make an effort not to hear any of it in advance, unless there is a single... the last album I did that for was Uh Huh Her, and that's magnificent.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:09 (twenty years ago)

vespertine >>>>>>>>>>> medulla

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago)

And he would know!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Vespertine=still possibly the worst thing ever.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 6 August 2004 01:05 (twenty years ago)

mark p, could you explain what you find so great in Vespertine? I'm not being pompous or an asshole, I am honestly wondering.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 6 August 2004 01:44 (twenty years ago)

As far as I know the best thing about Vespertine was the "Pagan Poetry" video where she's nekkid.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 6 August 2004 01:48 (twenty years ago)

"As far as I know the best thing about Vespertine was the "Pagan Poetry" video where she's nekkid."

Nah, that was pretty gross, it looked like she hadn't bathed in days.

I just like massive-sounding choirs and orchestras playing sleepy, "stereotypically" pretty melodies along with glitchy percussion. It's got some rough spots ("Heirloom" is terrible, the second-to-last one is rather dull and trying too hard), but overall I think she accomplished what she set out to do, I enjoyed it, and I don't think people are willing to accept that it's [i]supposed[/i] to be v"frozen"-sounding.

Sansai, Friday, 6 August 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago)

Melissa - explain how "Everytime" is good and "Hidden Place", "Undo" and "Aurora" aren't. My breath is bated.

And "It's POP, that makes it okay!" isn't gonna work.

Sansai, Friday, 6 August 2004 02:56 (twenty years ago)

it looked like she hadn't bathed in days.

has she ever looked like she has?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:15 (twenty years ago)

he's right, it's a terrible video and there's no hotness about it.

And Vespertine is seriously underrated, yeah.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:45 (twenty years ago)

He probably is right. I only saw it once in the middle of the night when I was drunk and anyone naked on TV looks good.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:51 (twenty years ago)

I will forever associate Vespertine with 9/11, as I bought it on 9/10 and listened to it often that whole week.

||amateur!st|| (amateurist), Friday, 6 August 2004 04:21 (twenty years ago)

I think vespertine is heartbreakingly beautiful. but this new one has me very suspicious. I still hold onto the belief that she can do no wrong, but everyone else I've ever felt that way about has let me down eventually, so...

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 6 August 2004 05:09 (twenty years ago)

The good songs on Vespertine ("Cocoon," "Undo," "Unison," "It's Not Up to You" and maybe "Pagan Poetry") + the good songs on Medulla ("Who Is It," "Oceania," "Where Is the Line," "Triumph of a Heart," "Pleasure Is All Mine" and maybe "Mouth's Cradle") = best Bjork album ever. But far be it from her to make a consistently great album, anyway.

Rich, Friday, 6 August 2004 05:20 (twenty years ago)

does this mean you have medulla?

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 6 August 2004 05:23 (twenty years ago)

Melissa - explain how "Everytime" is good and "Hidden Place", "Undo" and "Aurora" aren't. My breath is bated.

That is such a cop-out, Sansai. There isn't such a thing as an objective "good" in music, technical complexities aside.

What I find interestingly amusing is the fact that Mel and I were two of the very few people in the planet who despised Vespertine outright. And now that we're finding this to be a noticeably marked improvement over the latter, everyone's kinda "meh" about this one. Ah, musical preferences. Such a complex subject.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 6 August 2004 05:44 (twenty years ago)


And Vespertine is seriously underrated, yeah.

UNDERRATED? In what planet? Did you miss the sea of praise? Did you know that it's her best-selling album yet?

If anything, Vespertine is an extremely overrated, formulaic un-effort.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 6 August 2004 05:50 (twenty years ago)

uh, did you read this thread?

maybe the mainstream critics liked it, but very few others did.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 6 August 2004 05:55 (twenty years ago)

I read this thread, all right. Still an overrated album.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 6 August 2004 05:58 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I might actually not get this, and I was getting all the Homegenic singles and stuff 4 years ago... Bjork was the coolest stuff around when I was 17, but I never listen to her anymore. huh. I'm kinda sad about it.

derrick (derrick), Friday, 6 August 2004 06:39 (twenty years ago)

Melissa - explain how "Everytime" is good and "Hidden Place", "Undo" and "Aurora" aren't. My breath is bated.

"Everytime" is kind of a nostalgia thing for me. It has the same piano tone as a lot of old Enya songs that I liked when I was like 8. It has that dumb overused Pachelbel's Canon structure to evoke emotion. And it's so quiet for a big pop ballad. There's no big swelling moment. I think it's its quietness that gets me. It sounds so small and broken coming out of the radio.

As for all those Björk songs? I feel nothing. I can barely remember them. And I've heard them so many times. The prettiness of Vespertine is so vacuous. I love strings. I love choirs. But not layered on like colored frosting on an angelfood cake. The album just makes me feel physically ill, as if I've just gorged myself on packages of nutrasweet.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 6 August 2004 07:44 (twenty years ago)

"Did you know that it's her best-selling album yet?"

Is that true? I find that quite bizarre. Who was left to cross over to?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:44 (twenty years ago)

Yeps, Tim Finney. I find it quite bizarre as well. I'm fond of your nickname, by the way.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:51 (twenty years ago)

um...

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Even if it's your real name, it sounds good.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:55 (twenty years ago)

Well thank you then.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.orchestralibrary.com/instruments/Timpani.jpg

I used to be play the timfinney in the symphony.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:18 (twenty years ago)

1. vespertine is NOT bjork's bestselling album, far from it. as a general rule, in terms of sales w/r/t bjork's full-lengths, the law of diminishing returns applies

2. for the first year vespertine was out, i tended to veer towards melissa's interpretation - it seemed structurally elaborate but ultimately kind of hollow to me. i eventually realized that, with the exception of a few extraneous songs which remain numbingly boring (both "sun in my mouth" and "an echo a stain" just kind of droop, and certainly stop the album's momentum dead), that was part of its charm. hearing the ensuant remixes (herbert, ensemble, etc) helped a lot, maybe because they served to underline how malleable those melodies and song structures are. compared to debut and post (both of which contain some of bjork's most *songful* moments), vespertine seems a bit like a shell, but that's kind of the point - it IS a shell, or a casing, or a cocoon, or whatever cheesy analogy you want to apply. bjork said while she was making the album that she wanted to make music that people could listen to around the house, which i think was her way of saying she wanted to make as ambient (cf. eno's definition -> wallpaper) a record as she could possibly make. i think it's misunderstood as an album b/c it has no formal ties to the songful verse-chorus-verse bjork circa "army of me," "it's oh so quiet" etc but it's also obv. not nearly wallpapery enough to even come close to proper, formal ambient. that said, i do think there's a lot there - certainly more than is given credit for - and i find it hands down her most *inhabitable* record, for whatever that's worth

3. 'diminishing returns' applies to medulla as well. the playfulness and bravado that comes with the album's gimmick (NO instruments, everything is vocal, although a lot of them are vocal samples mulched, rearranged and digitally sculpted to SOUND like instruments, so expertly and faithfully that you end up wondering what the point was) wears off over time. not surprisingly, this record is about bjork's voice more than any other has been, which is saying a lot, and may explain my adverse reaction to it - there's a part of me that wishes she'd been canny enough to do a kid a and obscure her vocals beyond recognition, but she doesn't have the kind of self-doubt required to necessitate such a move

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:58 (twenty years ago)

*cough*

(radio rips)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm suddenly a lot more interested in this album since mike t-diva's post...

snowballing (snowballing), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:40 (twenty years ago)

I never would've imagined in a million years exactly how appropriate it was having RAHZEL guest on this album.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Dntel is the real Bjork these days, by my lights.

I pretty much agree with this.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:07 (twenty years ago)

Is Death Cab for Cutie the real Radiohead?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:23 (twenty years ago)

i just realized that i've only ever heard Dntel remixes

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:16 (twenty years ago)

I have decided that this album is better than Vespertine, but generally unlistinable.

Jimmy Mod, Los Sexx Yanqui (ModJ), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago)

I like listening to it.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago)

I like hating it!

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Everyone's happy!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 September 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago)

I love it. I love how monochromatic it is. At first I was like "Bjork, why? You always get the best producers, the lushest, wildest textures ... why such a limited palette?" But now I think it makes "Who Is It" and "Oceania" even more badass.

Lukas (lukas), Thursday, 30 September 2004 21:50 (twenty years ago)

I bet you like "Mezzanine."

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 30 September 2004 21:59 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, I've only heard one track off Mezzanine, so I dunno.

I don't mean badass in a "uniformly dark and ominous" way, if that's what you mean. More of a limited means "watch me blow up this tank with a stick of chewing gum" way. Oceania makes Hyperballad's strings and beats seem wasteful and silly.

Lukas (lukas), Thursday, 30 September 2004 23:11 (twenty years ago)

I LOVE _MEZZANINE_.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 September 2004 23:13 (twenty years ago)

Grr.

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 30 September 2004 23:37 (twenty years ago)

Mezzanine? Fantastic album.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 September 2004 23:38 (twenty years ago)

Mezzanine - best Massive Attack album.
Medúlla - not best Bjork album but still pretty damn good.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 1 October 2004 09:49 (twenty years ago)

SHITE, downhill from debut y'knaa

ra'ting, Friday, 1 October 2004 21:56 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
Medulla - that's very outstanding.very good.i liked it.
especially , "Where is the line with you", "Mouth's cradle" and "Oceania".Well, Bjork ir Bjork. Always exclusive.And fantastic.

mhm, Saturday, 23 October 2004 11:33 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
Sorry to bump this, but I just don't think "Where is the line" has recieved enough love. It's so driving! It has a few seperate bits! I like the part where it goes "I want to be- flexible"!

I just don't know why it didn't get mentioned more. I think "Where is the line" is a terrific pop song.

Jole, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
I think Medulla is my favorite Björk album now. MADNESS.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

I share your love for Where Is The Line, Jole.

Lingbertt, Friday, 6 May 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone heard the Fantomas/Mike Patton remix? It is INSANE.

Telephonething, Friday, 6 May 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

Yeah.. it's something alright. Jeebus.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

http://www.uploadandgo.com/reg/images/6413bjork-pdiddy.gif

Go, GO, GO, Thursday, 28 June 2007 14:54 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Hello. This sounds wow

Surmounter, Saturday, 4 August 2007 13:15 (seventeen years ago)

First heard this year, resurrected my interest in Bjork, which had disappeared in like '99.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 August 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago)

the harmonies/textures are intoxicating

Surmounter, Saturday, 4 August 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago)

This album is one of the most self-indulgent things ever recorded.

HI DERE, Saturday, 4 August 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago)

I dunno, it's a little bit too collaborative for that label.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 August 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago)

i find self-indulgent as a descriptor vague - it is often best to indulge yourself when it comes to creativity, in any event.

Surmounter, Saturday, 4 August 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago)

This album is one of the most self-indulgent things ever recorded.

-- HI DERE, Saturday, August 4, 2007 6:36 PM

correct. the album is also awesome.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 4 August 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago)

My favorite Bjork album for sure. Mouth's Cradle is like a synthesis of everything I like in pop music. It's a perfect song.

Bus Driver Stu, Saturday, 4 August 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago)

yes

Surmounter, Saturday, 4 August 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago)

wow

Surmounter, Saturday, 4 August 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago)

dan perry = career wrong-ist

fandango, Saturday, 4 August 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago)

"how am i going to make it right"

Surmounter, Saturday, 4 August 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

really this album is quite hooky. and i just love these beautiful choral underpinnings.

Surmounter, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 02:42 (seventeen years ago)

The combination of throat singers, traditional choruses, Gregorians and Rahzel is astounding. This really is one of the sexiest, most textured records of the decade. Only Bjork album to make a top 10 list of mine; only one that I listen to regularly, though Post comes out once in a while.

Jiminy Krokus, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 04:11 (seventeen years ago)

that's what's so surprising about it for me is the breadth of the texture. i didn't expect that. it really floods my heart. which sounds really corny but feels right!

Surmounter, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 04:13 (seventeen years ago)

where is the line is really, really pretty

Surmounter, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 04:54 (seventeen years ago)

bjork's effect is so physical on this album - it hits beneath the skin. and it's comforting.

Surmounter, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 05:00 (seventeen years ago)

hehe i love how soulfully ridiculous i get with my posts. so i'm just gonna keep listening to this album, yep, that's the plan.

btw ever since someone pointed it out up thread i just can't enough of that "i want to be flexible" line in "where is the line."

mhmm.

Surmounter, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago)

Can we get this thread truncated and moved to a new Surmounter-only board?

mh, Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

Perhaps on the oink forum

mh, Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:06 (seventeen years ago)

eleven months pass...

what is that one with the crickets -- you know it sounds like nighttime and she's repeating some line

i'm sure i've mentioned it by name before but i couldn't think of it when it came on

Surmounter, Thursday, 28 August 2008 04:55 (sixteen years ago)

oh right this:

"how am i going to make it right"

-- Surmounter, Saturday, August 4, 2007 7:02 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

she gets really excited

Surmounter, Thursday, 28 August 2008 04:56 (sixteen years ago)

I kind of hate that song, though there's one choral remix of it which improves it.

Turangalila, Thursday, 28 August 2008 05:43 (sixteen years ago)

i find it quiet and powerful

Surmounter, Thursday, 28 August 2008 14:47 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

years on, "Ancestors" is still hilarious

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:48 (fourteen years ago)

it really is

lex pretend, Thursday, 31 March 2011 01:19 (fourteen years ago)

six months pass...

new one biophilia reminds me of this

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 3 October 2011 03:11 (thirteen years ago)


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