What's the worst song on London Calling?

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Lover's Rock? Koka Kola?

frankE (frankE), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

ALL OF THEM!!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Jimmy Jazz!

Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 2 August 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Train in Vain, with a bullet.

Richard K (Richard K), Monday, 2 August 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

ALL OF THEM!!!

Yay!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 August 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll second that "Yay" and a raise you a "ROFFLE".

Typhoon is Coming!!! :O (ex machina), Monday, 2 August 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Jon Williams in mentalist shockah. DON'T YOU OWN A CLASH BOXED SET?

Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 2 August 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I own London Calling, the other one and the other other one

Typhoon is Coming!!! :O (ex machina), Monday, 2 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

four horsemen

de, Monday, 2 August 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"Train in Vain", I'll agree with.

I love this album. I hate you guys.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 2 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

do you like fighting the MAN?

Typhoon is Coming!!! :O (ex machina), Monday, 2 August 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

ah yes, typecasting clash fans will do this thread wonders.

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 2 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway that kind of criticism/joke doesn't really apply to
THIS album does it

de, Monday, 2 August 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

jon had everyone backed into a corner though, we were ready to give up and buy oscillators on layaway.

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 2 August 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I have oscillators! And filters! I want to learn to bend circuits in my shit though.

I like this album way more viscerally than cerebrally. All the lyrics could be about shoving kittens into pint glasses for all I care, I just heart the way the geetars and drums and voices sound.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 2 August 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i wouldn't be interested in the Clash at all if it wasn't for this album and sandinista, they seem like the work of a much more interesting even exciting group than the one which made the first two albums. not to mention the lame posturing

de, Monday, 2 August 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

....on them which makes them easy meat for Jon

de, Monday, 2 August 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm gonna go with "Koka Kola" here. "Lovers Rock" and "Train In Vain" are awesome, never understood the criticsm. I've been known to skip "Jimmy Jazz".

Sansai, Monday, 2 August 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

'Train In Vain" has got to be the best song on the album. PS I hate London Calling and need to get rid of my copy.

artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"Guns of Brixton" sounds kinda over the top when I'm not fifteen, too.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The whole album is supremely limp-dicked.

artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you Realised that Rock Stars
Always seem to lie so much?
John Lydon once said he cared
But he never really gave a fuck
Said he'd use the money he made
So that people would have somewhere to go
But now he lives in the USA
and Snorts Coke after the Show.

Why is it that Rock Stars
Always seem to lie so much?
Joe Strummer once said he cared,
but he never really gave a fuck
Said he'd use the money he made
To set up a radio station to make the
Airwaves full of something more than Shit
Have you noticed we're still Waiting?

You must realise that Rock Stars
Always seem to lie so much
Some will always tell you that they care,
But they don't really give a fuck,
Still you suckers don't ever learn
That rock stars deal in money not truth
It's good Buisiness to exploit you
Just look at Lydon or Strummer for Proof.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

They said that we were trash,
Well the name is Crass, not Clash.
They can stuff their punk credentials
Cause it's them that take the cash.
They won't change nothing with their fashionable talk,
All their RAR badges and their protest walk,
Thousands of white men standing in a park,
Objecting to racism's like a candle in the dark.
Black man's got his problems and his way to deal with it,
So don't fool yourself you're helping with your white liberal shit.
If you care to take a closer look at the way things really stand,
You'd see we're all just niggers to the rulers of this land.

Punk was once an answer to years of crap,
A way of saying no where we'd always said yep.
But the moment we saw a way to be free,
They invented a dividing line, street credibility.
The qualifying factors are politics and class,
Left wing macho street fighters willing to kick arse.
They said because of racism they'd come out on the street.
It was just a form of fascism for the socialist elite.
Bigotry and blindness, a marxist con,
Another clever trick to keep us all in line.
Neat little labels to keep us all apart,
To keep us all divided when the troubles start.

Pogo on a nazi, spit upon a jew,
Vicious mindless violence that offers nothing new.
Left wing violence, right wing violence, all seems much the same,
Bully boys out fighting, it's just the same old game.
Boring fucking politics that'll get us all shot,
Left wing, right wing, you can stuff the lot.
Keep your petty prejudice, I don't see the point,
ANARCHY AND FREEDOM IS WHAT I WANT.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott wins, I think.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Four Horsemen.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm learning so much
from reading this weird thread but
not about the Clash

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I always used to think its worst song was "Hateful," but now that I think of it, isn't that the only fast song on the whole album? So probably not that one. (Whatever the best song is, though, it isn't as good as the worst one on *Give Em Enough Rope,* I don't think.)

chuck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

rest my case

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait wait wait, what about "Revolution Rock"??? Do I win?

chuck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

crass were such hippies

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

But they washed, presumably.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

London Calling is OVAHRATED

I like their first album better, it is teh album for all seasons

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I dont get the Train in Vain hate AT ALL. Its the only good song, and the Clash's best song.

David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, I already said that.

artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

People who hate "Train in Vain" are operating in the EXACT SAME MINDSET as people who say "Train in Vain" is the only good song on London Calling, David.

I really love this album, and I really love the Clash. I love the early stuff, I love Combat Rock, it's all part of the story for me. And I think that I'm right to do so, and I can defend it if called upon to do so, and I am not sure how much I can trust anyone who just shits all over them and dismisses them out of hand. I just wanted to say that.

Oh and "Guns of Brixton" is easily the worst song on London Calling.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd say "Train in Vain" is the worst song, though I love the album as a whole. Not sure what it is that makes people hate "Koka Kola" so much, aside from the burning inspiration of being the first genius to post "because it suxors!" in response to this.

"with your snakeskin suit/and your alligator boots
you don't need a laundress/just take it to the vet!"

It ain't T.S. Eliot and it won't change the world but it's a great song off a great album. Sorry if it's not your thing, but even apart from whatever posturing Strummer did, the Clash are a damn good band.

Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)

London Calling is bigger than me. I'm willing to accept that. It existed primarily in a time and cultural space that I can only imagine and will never understand fully, and in that cultural time and space, it was HUGE. Fuck canonization -- it was bigger than that. It was a great punk band.

I am sadly unable to appreciate The Clash as a punk band, but only as a rock band, and (at my most disgustingly honest) as a pop band. I'm sadly with whoever said that he couldn't give a fat turd about the lyrics. I couldn't either, unless I'm indulging myself in some opressed-class fantasy, which really is no way to listen to music.

Great album, though. Real fucking catchy.

Kenan (kenan), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"Guns of Brixton" has way too great a bass line to be the worst song on the album. (I even like the Beats International single that sampled it.) I guess I'd say "I'm Not Down," just because I don't believe anything in that song for even a second, but it's catchy as hell and it has that great build in it...nah, I just don't hate anything on that album. It's overhated.

spittle (spittle), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Jimmy Jazz!

-- Ian c=====8

Not the worst track, but probably the favorite track of people who wish they were listening to a different album.

Kenan (kenan), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

KOKA KOLA IS THE BEST SONG ON THE ALBUM!!!!! FAGS!!!!! For real, that and Train In Vain. Worst song: Brand New Cadillac (why has no one mentioned this yet?) or the title track, though that has grown on me. I think London Calling is not their best album but has some of their best songs. First album is one of the best records ever. Everyone neglects Give 'Em Enough Rope, which is also awesome.

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Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"Jimmy Jazz" is a great example of how rock acts shouldn't write songs about jazz as it drags the whole album down temporarily - see also "Jazz Police" by Leonard Cohen on the otherwise faultless I'm Your Man.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread saddens me in many ways.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Trying to get myself to like London Calling saddened me in many ways.

artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Hello, it's "Four Horsemen."

F Ath, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't dismiss the clash out of hand FFS!!

1/ I really really can't stand their music at all. It just sounds tinny and feeble and weak and the singing just sounds horrible to me.

plus

2/media coverage over the years kind ogf magnifies this into haterd a bit. oh, I know it shouldn't and stuff, but you know, here we go round again, "from the westway to the best rock n roll band in the world", "oh of course I like the clash", pr*g r*ck was so terribly middle class, that's why the clash were so necessary" (nb I'm not making the last one up, I heard it on radio 4 [oh, irony piled upon irony there, eh?] a few years ago) get this thrown at you frequently and regularly over a 10-15yr period and see how long it takes you to bristle at the very mention of the group's name!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

So yeah, fuckum, gimme the 7" of "bank robber", which I've gotta admit is pretty fucking r0x0r in it's way, and pitch the rest in the dumper. "london Calling" is prob my least favourite (IE least endurable) out of the lot ov 'em fwiw.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Jimmy Jazz." "Guns of Brixton" is awesome, hataz.

Maneating Leopards of India (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:23 (twenty-one years ago)

fwiw all the media rhetoric makes me puke but that's not the band's fault (mostly)

Maneating Leopards of India (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

wasn't the "only band that matters" tag coined by ex- beefheart guitarist gary lucas when he was a copywriter at cbs?

Maneating Leopards of India (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit I'm shocked no-one's nominated "Lost in the supermarket"!

My second runner up would be "Death or Glory".


But I like "Koka Kola" and "lover's Rock"

cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

'Wrong 'Em Boyo' is the real outright clunker on there for me. But I like 'Death or Glory', some of the passages in that song remind me a lot of Big Star.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Who dares say "Koka Kola"? I fuckin' love that track.

Worst song on the album is EASILY "Lost in the Supermarket" (I fully expect to catch a huge stack of abuse for this comment). It's crappy, whingey milksoppery that makes Robert Smith and Morrissey sound like Lemmy and Jaz Coleman by comparison.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

...though "Lovers Rock" does suck too.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The title track's easily the most boring thing on the album. It ruined the whole thing for me for years.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

heresy

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

This from a man who dissed "Lost In The Supermarket".

noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn skippy.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought "Lost in the Supermarket" was the song liked by people who wished they were listening to a different album. I get so excited when that one comes on: Yay, disco!

There's a handful of good tracks on the album: "Supermarket," "London Calling," "Spanish Bombs," another one maybe (I forget). The rest sounds like a fucking BAR BAND.

jaymc, Thursday, 5 August 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Although I dunno, that's not a total diss: they're a really, really good bar band. But still.

jaymc, Thursday, 5 August 2004 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"Revolution Rock", easily. I can't believe people are nominating "Guns of Brixton". I mean, the lyrics are awful (the whole album has terrible lyrics, though! Most Clash songs, realy), but that bass!!! Obviously it's not even the best or second best Clash bass line, but it's clearly great.

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 5 August 2004 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I never want to hear "Rudie Can't Fail" again, but that's probably just because I'm sick of it.

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 5 August 2004 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, this is hilarious and infuriating. So much disagreement all inside out!

cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

worst rock-n-roll mucho-macho-songs on london calling

Rudie Can't Fail
Wrong'em boyo
Brand new cadillac
Koka Kola
Lovers rock

cut the crap, make an ep, pleeeeease

randy mamola, Thursday, 5 August 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Wrong 'em boyo. By miles. And that's saying something.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Just abt avery song nominated by someone, with no clear consensus = London Calling all-time great album & all-time great grist for those with axes to grind, e.g. "OMG rock-n-roll LIES, man, they were MIDDLE CLASS, man, just listen to the LYRICS, man!"

Stewart O. right around the money all thru this thread.

briania (briania), Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I would probably like Train in Vain if I hadn't heard it out of context on classic rock radio for years before finally hearing the whole album. Now when it comes on at the end I feel like I should have just listened to Yes, and Steppenwolf is on the way. Plus, Garbage sampled it.

Richard K (Richard K), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

A fourth sensible vote for "Four Horsemen."

worst rock-n-roll mucho-macho-songs on london calling
Rudie Can't Fail
Wrong'em boyo
Brand new cadillac
Koka Kola
Lovers rock

How are any of these songs macho? "Wrongem Boyo" and "Brand New Cadillac" (covers, by the way, one ska, one rockabilly) are about as anti-macho as it gets.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

"four horsemen" is kinda lame, as is "lover's rock." the rest is fantastic. i guess i just like good bar bands.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

My Top Ten favorite moments on London Calling:

1. Everything about the intro on "The Guns of Brixton"

2. The funky, speeded up part on "Death or Glory" ("playing the blues of kings sure looks better now")

3. Joe Strummer's wordless gurgling on "The Right Profile" (after "There I go again shaking, but I ain't got the chills")

4. The weird, harmonics-using rhythm guitar playing on "Lost in the Supermarket" ("I empty a bottle, I feel a bit free")

5. The transition from the last guitar strum on "Brand New Cadillac" to the first one on "Jimmy Jazz"

6. The transition from the end of "Hateful" to the beginning of "Rudie Can't Fail" (the only Bo Diddley New Orleans ska song every recorded)

7. Joe Strummer saying "The Ice Age is coming" right after that scary, backward-recorded guitar solo on "London Calling," at which point you might believe him...

8. The part where the bass casually cuts out and then comes back on "Revolution Rock." (Also: "Weddings, parties, anything...")

9. "It's the best years of your life they want to steal" (on "Clampdown")

10. The fact that I still can't figure out if "Spanish Bombs" is pro- or anti-terrorist 25 years later. (See "Tommy Gun.")

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

there are some fucking rough parts of bromley, trust me

sarf, Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

Hey guess what? The newest Bachelor series features a bachelor from the UK and is called The Bachelor: London Calling!! Hilarious? Yes! (And to answer to original thread question: ALL OF THEM, of course.)

stephen, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 02:38 (seventeen years ago)

Scott wins for quoting Rudimentary Peni upthread.

Also; all of them.

Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 09:15 (seventeen years ago)

jimmy jazz

latebloomer, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 09:26 (seventeen years ago)

What latebloomer said.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 09:46 (seventeen years ago)

"Revolution Rock."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 12:44 (seventeen years ago)

i love 'jimmy jazz'

i might say 'wrong em boyo'. it's pretty good though

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 13:03 (seventeen years ago)

Lovers Rock

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 13:15 (seventeen years ago)

Only two tracks remaining untouched:

"The Right Profile"
"Clampdown"

Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

There are no bad songs on "London Calling", but "Cadillac" is kind of pointless.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 23:48 (seventeen years ago)

"London Calling"

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

And don't you realize how fucking right wing that Crass lyric actually is?

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 02:11 (seventeen years ago)

geir otm

those are the perfect two tracks to remain untouched

deeznuts, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

"Spanish Bombs"

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 03:40 (seventeen years ago)

Jimmy Jazz

ablaeser, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 04:28 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

Why don't people like this album? I think it's great!

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

because it always makes the usual lists and this is ilm

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

Guns of Brixton is the only killer song on it.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

Lovers Rock

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

Guns of Brixton is the only killer song on it.

― Conan The Asshander (Doran)

Nonsense. Guns in Brixton is a highlight but Lost in the Supermarket and Spanish Bombs are also killer (even tho the later has some of the worst spanish mispronunciations I've heard in a song).

Moka, Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

mispronounciations*

Moka, Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

Horses for courses. I'm not really a Clash fan. I spent ages trying to like them when I was younger and felt that I should but I think those two songs a pretty poor really. I could make myself a better mini album out of Sandinista! than I could out of London Calling.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

"Sing, Michael, Sing!"

Miss Piggy and Frodo in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

title track is all time zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Joe Hart is Fellaini Hunter (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

For me it's what's not to like? It's not a very 'punk' rock album, but it's a great pop record with lots of fun and variety and catchy tunes, so for those reasons it's pretty classic. Guns Of Brixton has that bassline, Wrong Em Boyo is just the right side of goofy fun, and lost in the supermarket has a peculiar pathos that kind of takes me offguard halfway through the record.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Saturday, 19 November 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah NV the title track is boring.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Saturday, 19 November 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

No it isn't, not with that Ride of the Valkyries bassline

Miss Piggy and Frodo in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 November 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

Only dud here is "Lover's Rock", which isn't so much terrible as it is filler.

encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 November 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

It's not a bad album, but it's not the go-to album for any of the essential aspects of the band, so I haven't listened to it in probably 15 years. (Listened to Sandinista! twice straight through on the drive from Atlanta last Monday though.)

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Saturday, 19 November 2011 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

went and youtube'd the original version (i think) of revolution rock. where previously i thought they added to every cover they chose, this one not so much so i agree w/it being the only not essential tune on LC. wrong 'em boyo is a fantastic original and a great cover to boot; while, imo, cadillac is off the charts a ferocious cover version so i don't understand Geir's upthread comment. except that it's Herr Geir. Lover's Rock might be a throwaway but it's still FUN.
"not the go-to for essential aspects of the band" except to hear how quickly they grew from 1978-1979 and became a perfect band with great songwriting and musicianship by their third album i guess

epigram addict (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 20 November 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago)


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