Stand up and be counted, Miaow and Cath Carroll fans!

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As there doesn't appear to be a thread for her work yet. Yeah, so like a lot of people over here in Americaville I heard about her first because of Unrest and that song, so don't give me any heat, because it's a great song. I didn't actually hear anything of hers for years, though, beyond the bemusing cover of "King Creole" she did with Steve Albini for the NME Elvis tribute in 1990. But then LTM got around to releasing a compilation of Miaow which is indeed pretty spiffy, then rereleased her England Made Me album which I'm sure is worth it, and two albums followed that late in the nineties.

But I'm writing to talk about her fourth solo album that LTM put out as a straight up release two years ago, The Gondoliers of Ghost Lake. She lives in Chicago with her husband Kerry Kelekovich, who as with the last two albums cowrote and performed the songs with her -- and so far, at least, it's absolutely fantastic. Her voice sounds really, really lovely, the music is often a kind of guitar/pop lushness that I didn't think I could be so easily moved by anymore -- more fool me -- and even the first truly surprising note on the album, the low key techno-with-guitar-bits excursion "Mystified," works very well, her voice as appropriate for it as anything that, for instance, Lida Husik has done in the same vein, perhaps even more so. The further combinations of electronics and guitar and her voice as the album goes on are just as fine -- if nothing groundbreaking, the point is that they're very good, and she has the ear for just how to use her voice and the music perfectly. Quite an unexpected treat and well worth checking out.

Her website is the unsurprisingly-titled http://www.cathcarroll.com/ and Gondoliers first track, the brief but very lovely "All Our Lives," is there for download along with various other songs old and new. And of course she also had her journalism and writing career and still does, and the website has quite a bit about that.

Chime in, comments, thoughts, more!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

The 7" and 12" versions of Moves Like You are truly amazing, but England Made Me is like some bad joke. It's up there with the Go-Kart Mozart album in the category of so shockingly bad it's literally unlistenable. To me. It put me off even any of her other solo stuff, but I'll give Gondoliers of Ghost Lake a try since you seem to not have heard England Made Me. And she does have a great voice.

I ended up with the Moves Like You single because Parasol sent it to me by mistake... I ordered Unrest's Cath Carroll single, they sent an actual Cath Carroll single instead.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Sure, I loved 'em. They and McCarthy were my favourites off the NME C86 tape at the time (I had no idea the Weddoes were going to become so important later!). "When It All Comes Down" I've overplayed, but I still like "Did She" a lot and the Belle Vue 12", too. That last single they did, Break The Code, took me a long time to "get", and it still sounds kindof odd, but eventually it did click for me. I steered clear of England Made Me, but did spend some time listening to her solo work in the mid-90's. I didn't find it particularly memorable, however.

The LTM disc is certainly welcome, but has its ups and downs as far as the previously unreleased stuff. By the time they'd got to their last material it seems pretty clear to me they'd lost their initial spark.

Is she not married to Santiago, the Big Black guy anymore?

Oh yeah, and she's a stunningly beautiful woman.

Bimble (bimble), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned you told Dr. C you were gonna post what LTM releases you got on the LTM thread and I don't think you've done this yet. C'mon, don't leave us in the dark!

Bimble (bimble), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It'll happen.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Now more of you people must be awake. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I've heard bits and pieces of Miaow and Cath Carroll, not too bad!

Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

didn't she used to be married to santiago durango of Big Black? I love "Train You're On" which reunited Durango and Steve Albini a year or two after Big Black split... it's all samba rhythms and crunching guitars- brilliant!

Officer Pupp, Wednesday, 4 August 2004 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone heard True Crime Motel? I saw a v.cheap copy of this the other day, but didn't pick it up. If anyone has nice things to say abt it I'll go back and get it.

England Made Me is an absolute classic - not really like anything else, yet all at once very comfortable and familiar. To Close Your Eyes forever, Watching You, Subtitled, Moves Like You - hell, all of it is beautiful stuff...very turn of the 90's in the North post-the heady days of 79-85 nostalgia (cf. early 808 State, Durutti's 'Obey The Time').

All the Miaow Stuff is good - hidden gems on the LTM CD - 'Thames at High Water' from the '87 Peel Session and the late demo 'Fear Of The Sun' - already pointing the way towards England Made Me.

I will get Gondoliers now. Thanks, Ned.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 4 August 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Miaow a couple of times - once at ULU 3rd on the bill to The Chills and Dead Famous People. And I think at the LSE with McCarthy or someone. They were great both times, yet no-one showed much interest.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

England Made Me is like some bad joke

WTF?!!??! I don't even see an angle there. When I went to Manchester whilst still in 1991, I specifically spent an afternoon looking for a copy of England Made Me (harder than I would have thought). It remains one of my favorite albums ever. Well produced, great songs, sultry vocals...gorgeous. I didn't so much love any of her other releases since. Maybe cuz subsequent stuff didn't have the budget that album did (breaking Factory, supposedly).

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"Moves like you" was for me the higlight of a Factory sampler tape that an ancient issue of Select Magazine had as a cover mount. I love that song. I picked up the LTM reissue of England Made Me, don't play it as much as I should. Never heard Unrest, should I?

paul c (paul c), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

it can't hurt. Unrest's "imperial ffrr" is one of my favourite records ever and bound to have beguiling moments for the Factory fan.

purple patch (electricsound), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

i've finally heard the miaow comp (well, some of it) and it's neat. sport most royal sounds like it could have been released by postcard. the 12" mix of when it all comes down is a mess though

electricsound, Thursday, 1 November 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

sport most royal was on a compilation tape (C86?) but other tracks I heard were less immediate.

Mark G, Friday, 2 November 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

Is it possible there's some confusion over "England Made Me" by Cath Carroll and "England Made Me" by Black Box Recorder upthread? I've never heard Cath Carroll's solo albums but I was something of a Miaow fan and can't really envision her sounding like some bad joke. It's up there with the Go-Kart Mozart album in the category of so shockingly bad it's literally unlistenable.

I love BBR but admit it's possible that someone would make such a comment about "Girl Singing In The Wreckage", "Uptown Topranking" and others, but Cath Carroll? Makes no sense.

Miaow are amongst a small elite of heroes who made an effort and played to the grateful kids in the Scottish backwater where I grew up, so they will forever be dear to me. They were certainly one of the best guitar bands of the time.

everything, Friday, 2 November 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

It occurs to me that "Just Once", off True Crime Motel, plays in my head at least once a day. Sometimes more.

Is there anyone else like me?

My Boyfriend Could Be A Spanish Man (R Baez), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:44 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

England Made Me is on Spotify!
http://open.spotify.com/album/2A7YnT5ccwXWjRI9BmrXVg

john. a resident of chicago., Tuesday, 25 September 2012 02:26 (thirteen years ago)

ooh!

Mark G, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 06:17 (thirteen years ago)

Miaow... Remember seeing them on some obscure Granada TV show in 87 miming "Break the code" ... Had "Belle Vue" on "Strum and drum", a tape given away with the final edition of "Underground" magazine in 88... Then there was an interview with Tony Wilson in summer 88 in "Offbeat" (which was the same mag as "Underground" but on glossy paper) where he said "I've got the best rock band in the world in New Order, the best dance band in the world in Happy Mondays and the best singer in the world in Cath Carroll"... Nobody really believed him at the time... Then years later Cath Carroll turns up singing one song on the final Trembling Blur Stars album and it wipes the floor with everything else on the record... Sorry, I'm in early morning random mode.

Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 06:31 (thirteen years ago)

it wipes the floor with everything else on the record

i don't necessarily agree with this, but that is a tremendous song

adam bandit (electricsound), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 06:36 (thirteen years ago)

You're right, but it is a highlight on a very good album, I always thought Bob wrote better songs for the female voice(s) available to him, but saying that implies diminishing his own voice. So I'll stop digging this hole. Think I need to wake up properly before I say anything on ILM.

Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 06:45 (thirteen years ago)

that song needed a voice like hers, it is extremely affecting

adam bandit (electricsound), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 06:47 (thirteen years ago)

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFu49UGEWCg

So classic -- just felt the need to remind you guys.

touch fuzzy, get dizzy (boy_slayer), Friday, 10 May 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSlX7C2y5rrQJO1c-kDaYBuzEHMUBEkE39j_JVYFLr50QwY2MpM

What up, y'all?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 May 2013 20:59 (twelve years ago)

oh, goodness! her duet ("the dispossessed") with hit parade makes me swooooooooooooon!

touch fuzzy, get dizzy (boy_slayer), Friday, 10 May 2013 21:07 (twelve years ago)

damn. who's gonna be the next cath carroll, laura watling?

touch fuzzy, get dizzy (boy_slayer), Friday, 10 May 2013 21:08 (twelve years ago)

Oh my God, a lost memory just surfaced of a time I spent hanging in a small dressing room with her and Santiago Durango. I forget the context, but I think it was right after her solo album came out, and I remember asking her about the Unrest connection, and she being both flattered and weirded out.

This might be the most surprising forgotten rock and roll memory that's popped up since the time I realized I'd seen both John Cale and DMX live, maybe the same week. Seem like odd shows to totally forget.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 May 2013 21:11 (twelve years ago)

see, to me that looks like a Cath Carroll album

I know it isn't...

Mark G, Friday, 10 May 2013 21:11 (twelve years ago)

oh yeah and 'See you in Havana' as well..xposts

Mark G, Friday, 10 May 2013 21:12 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

So classic -- just felt the need to remind you guys.

― touch fuzzy, get dizzy (boy_slayer), Friday, May 10, 2013 1:13 PM (1 month ago)

You blew it, here's the video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaXejIruszo

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 02:19 (twelve years ago)

neat

electricsound, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 02:26 (twelve years ago)


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