Chicago House (Second wave like Cajual and or related stuff)

I remember enjoying this at the time:
http://www.discogs.com/release/12594

this:

http://www.discogs.com/release/2069

is as close to "filter disco" or whatever as I ever liked.

oh yeah, Brighter Days by Cajmere, I recently got on a bootleg(b/w Renegade Soundwave's Ozone Breakdown, which is why I got it) is really beautiful.

thanks guys. I really like the new one "Midnight" actually, just came into the store this week, so that reminded me I'd been meaning to go and dig out some of that sound for a while.

"Horny"

Mousse T.? He's from Germany and to my mind much later than what we've been talking about. (One of the best songs ever, though).

get the 'the many shades of cajual' mix cd if you can find it. It's a fantastic overview of the cream of the cajual crop. I always loved the cajual label logo too (that slinky dancing woman)

future sound of chicago one is probably the better one, but since it was like a mixmag giveaway (right? am i hallucinating this?) it's impossible find now.

my post-92 chicago house nine:

- green velvet - "preacher man"
- derrick carter - "the music"
- felix da housecat - "in thee dark we live (thee light)"
- gemini - "le fusion"
- c.v.o. - "just can't stop"
- paul johnson - "11 pm music/2 am music"
- gene farris - "farris wheel"
- boo williams - "midnight express"
- dj sneak - "you can't hide from your bud"

"filter disco" =Sneak, esp "You Can't Hide From Your Bud"

not exactly in a Cajual style but derrick carter, diz, boo williams, paul johnson are all great. mixtapes by these guys are the way to go, IMO.

OTM xpost

I just bought an 8cd mix of Chicago House off of Ebay. I'll put up the tracklist if I can be bothered.

Cool!

I'm a big fan of Gemini, who's released stuff on Disko B, Planet E, Peacefrog, Classic and various other labels. Of course the names of particular EPs and single escape me at the moment.

When it comes to second wave era (after acid, after traxx rec, yet pre-filter)chicago there's tons of stuff to recommend. Here are some of my favorite jacking chicago classics:

1. first off from Tyree Cooper--http://www.discogs.com/release/71057
ignore the low discogs rating; this record jacks the motherfucking house! it's all about the super-minimal cut T.C.X.--sounds like old DBx, only more funky. I bought this 12" off of DJ Gillman (who threw the KILLER parties with Khan at Robots.) Plexus still sweats me for this single. So hard to find! Good luck searching eBay and soulseek.

2. essential green velvet--http://www.discogs.com/release/1881
raw, hard, nasty.

3. yeah, "flash" is alright, but sometimes "I want to leave my body!!!" more green velvet--http://www.discogs.com/release/1616
All I can say is that if you were wearing big pants with a sag back in '96, you knew this was the shit.

4. Before the bullshit wave of dj sneak and daft punk filter, Paul Johnson was the ultimate jackmaster. Seriously, there was a time when he did not suck balls. His tracks were so stripped down, minimal, aggressive, ghetto, and funky. He released some of the best stuff that dancemania ever put out. (Mind you, this was years before his Ibiza anthems like "get, get down") This release on relief is sooo solid-- http://www.discogs.com/release/1849 (Selway always used to drop this ep back at the Killer parties.)

5. Glenn Underground had his moments too. Before his loungey material for guidance recordings he did some disco house that was unbeatable. Not bullshit filter, which (in my opinion) is not much better than trance. Real disco house with deep ass samples of sylvester. This EP is a favorite of "Disco" Tom Pratt (EVR) -- http://www.discogs.com/release/12011

6. Lastly, terence fm always satisfies. His work on Prescription records is some of the greatest detroit house ever, but this release ain't too shabby either-- http://www.discogs.com/release/1988
(production by cajmere/green velvet)

BTW "disco" tom on late tonite (12pm EST and after) over at http://eastvillageradio.com/

is this Evan's first foray into ILM? Will all the Cash Boyz come and drop science?

yes and no

Best house music ever!

Glenn Underground, I'd go for "I need GU" as the crucial solo 12" from mid 90s.

Personal Cajmere picks are "Fakes and phonies" off of Portamento Tracks and the remixes of Dajae's "Is it all over my face" just for the contrast between the straight house vocal and the velvetisms underneath.

But my favourite Glenn stuff was always the Strictly Jaz Unit collabs with Boo Williams etc. The greatest of which is "Take me back" (feat. Cei Bei). "Bring back those vocals from way back when. BOO WILLIAMS!"

Gemini, yes, but Gene Farris was also the man. I used to be a big fan of "The Fruity Green" LP but haven't put it on for years so dunno how it's holding up.

The biggest anthem (at least in the clubs I was going to) was probably DJ Sneak and AVH's "Hardsteppin disco selection" ep which was just fucking monstrous. Those drums on the intro...

Also DJ Rush - "Show me a man" was one of the more extreme edges of the aesthetic. Very distorted and nasty sounding.

Straying a bit into the ghetto house, er, ghetto, but some of the Traxmen releases were awesome as well, and not all of them had repetitive booty chants either. Can't remember any titles off the bat.

Finally, Johnny Fiasco was pretty patchy, but his mix of Dajae's "Fakes and phonies" is key. The little scratchy drums on the first bar almost foretelling microhouse.

Oh shit, and one more, you cannot miss out "Operation SNEAK". That's pure second wave right there.

Where do you guys buy this stuff on vinyl on the internet? I've been getting all my chicago house stuff from gramaphone but when i go back to school in the fall i'll need some site to order shit.

I hear this is also the shit:
http://www.discogs.com/release/36634

I think it was sampled for that Rotterdam Terminator Source record "Poing".

the Future Sound... comps are great, but my favourite comp of mid-nineties Chicago house is actually the Radikal Fear comp that Felix Da Housecat's label (of the same name I think) put out. Both excellent and really diverse - spacey, funky, sometimes really punishing and nasty.

BTW Spencer there's a "Horny" track by Cajmere as well as Mousse T, though the latter probably wouldn't stand out *too* much!

I get angry when people play Percolator and it's clearly not yet time for the Percolator. By people, I mean my often DJ partner Mike. We did Mash-up Percolator and O Superman at the Coral Room once to great, yes suprisingly unappreciated, effect.

I have the bootleg w/ How to Run a Train on the flip.

What do people think of Bad Boy Bill and that whole hip-hop style of house mixing where you switch up songs every second? And the Bangin' In The Box comps? I saw him spin in Grant Park a year and a half ago, he wasn't my favorite live. But I do like this style of house mixing in theory. (And sometimes in practice, like Bangin the Box 3 and the Richard Humpty Vission Big Floor Funk mix that I big-upped and got shot down as "plastic and prog." : (

The only mention of Bad Boy Bill on ILM is a LeCoq thread about drugs + music.

omg just reading that name takes me back to 7th grade

I always looked down upon him, mainly cause his style just wasn't what I liked but partly cause of guilt by association ie him being b96s #1 dj and cheerleaders and ogres liked him

Feel free to also discuss his garish 90s cover art:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000006BZY.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Although I think I remember when he spun on B96 I was young, and it's totally weird to imagine a time when jocks and cheerleaders liked house music.

My school was different though, we didnt really have 'jocks n cheerleaders.'

I mean we had cheerleaders but they liked R&B and rap.

bad boy bill is one of those things where, if i was vahid and possibly more perverse, i might try to re-evaluate. i haven't heard anything he's done in years, but something tells me i'd be wasting my time. he's just one of those names you're always gonna see in borders dance section from here until eternity, i.e. who buys this shit these days?

deej if you like that rapid-fire disc changing dj style and you haven't heard it, check out derrick may's mayday mix. personally i dont like the whiplash dj mix style too much.

Yeah listening to clips on BBB's website has me less than enthused, I've never heard Mayday so I'll check that out. Thnx.

I actually kind of like some of these things. The trouble with humpty and BBB is they have no quality control. So some of the tracks on their cds are these amazing hard chicago sounds and you get the odd great 4-5 record run and then they'll chop in some awful piece of Euro prog vocal and fuck the whole thing up. But there really is no difference between them and one of those Jeff Mills 'The Wizard' mixes from the late 90s. And those are undeniably great.

haha, jess knows my style

i had wanted to put this on trife's old "recommend me a house mix" thread, but i'll say it here: Bad Boy Bill's "Banging in London". pros: tacky flourescent cover, generic rave flyer fonts, jeff mills paced mixing, scratching, hip-hop samples, very femme men doing diva vocals, weirdly reverbed spinbacks, fake radio shout-outs, mind-bogglingly hard minimal tracks from commercial "proper" house artists (armand van helden, old tracky bastard, etc), corny anthems (eniac v. novy's "pumpin"). really the best mix of mainstream AND underground house i've ever heard. ok, but it has no microhouse.
-- vahid (vfoz...), September 30th, 2003 9:10 AM. (vahid)

haha man now i want to hear it, wtf

YOU'RE THE DEVIL HIMSELF SIR

haha groove armada! and man, holmes doesnt like to let a track play out for more than 3:10 does he?

this was the dance record i listened to most from mid 2004 to mid 2005, i think. (and the trance disc more than the house!)

http://www.discogs.com/release/87148

Vahid, recommend more like this.

(please)

"shake and pop" is so so awesome

i mean, how has green velvet managed to just keep doing his thing, for SO long, and it always always sounds like NOW?

The MD X-Spress - God Made Me Phunky
Dajae - U Got Me Up (Cajmere's Underground Goodie Mix)
The Reese Project - I Believe (Carl Craig B-dub mix)
The Jass Man - Jass Yo Azz Off
Perception - Feed The Feeling
Mass Order - Lift Every Voice (Take Me Away)
Cajmere Feat. Dajae - Brighter Days (Louie's Masters At Work Mix)
Aly-Us - Follow Me
TC Crew - Welcome To The Underground
Sterling Void - Don't Wanna Go (Mike Dunn's For Fun Mix)
Lidell Townsell - Nu Nu
Frankie Knuckles - The Whistle Song
Ron Trent - Altered States
Mix Masters - In The Mix
Loleatta Holloway - So Sweet
Kym Mazelle & Marshall Jefferson - Got To Get You Back
Joe Smooth - They Want to Be Free
Jack N. House - I Got To Go To Work
Hi-Liner - Loving You
Double Dee - Found Love